[arg_discuss] A possible way forward?
Colin McNee
colinmcnee at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 25 23:07:31 EDT 2008
Hi everyone,
Great Idea, Christy.
Just my two cents here as someone who has recently
been trying to acquaint myself with the ARG world
starting from scratch: I loved the whitepaper, it was
extremely helpful, especially the bibliography. I'm a
bit of an academic nerd and when it comes to research,
a good bib is a gold mine. That being said, it would
have been nice to have an annotated bib available as a
starting point. I wasn't able to find anything of the
sort and have been arduously sifting through the
information available on the internet and have been
taking a few notes. I'd certainly be willing to offer
up my thoughts on anything I've read as a way of
building this.
It would also be nice if we could provide links to pdf
files of the articles wherever possible.
Colin
--- varin <varineq at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think a website like this is a good idea. It would
> be nice to be
> able to have some control over the organization of
> information. I'd
> be willing to help out, just let me know when things
> get rolling.
>
> oh, but www.IGDAARGSIG.org might be a little hard to
> remember ;P
>
> Michelle Senderhauf
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Christy Dena
> <cdena at cross-mediaentertainment.com> wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> > Just a thought about a possible way forward for
> the ARG SIG.
> >
> >
> >
> > I, like many others on this list, would love to
> see ARGs as they are better
> > understood, as well as see ARGs develop in ways
> unimagined. One of the
> > continuing issues we've all spoken about many
> times on this list and
> > elsewhere, are public descriptions of ARGs, the
> wikipedia entry, ARG SIG
> > blog, ARG SIG whitepaper and so on. There has
> been some criticism (from
> > within and outside of the ARG community) of the
> whitepaper and wikipedia
> > entry - two high profile sources of information
> about ARGs.
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems to me that the reason both of these
> sources fail in some regards is
> > in their inappropriately comprehensive nature. In
> other words, the
> > whitepaper and wikipedia entry are trying to be
> too many things. What is
> > great about the whitepaper is that it brings
> together the various interests
> > and expertise of this ARG SIG. It is in some ways
> a mission statement for
> > all the possible initiatives the ARG SIG can
> achieve: descriptions of ARGs,
> > antecedents of ARGs, history of ARGs, types of
> ARGs, ARG design techniques,
> > economic models, ARGs in education & training,
> ARG research and so on. We
> > just need to address these separately, in the
> right place(s).
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems too that the ARG SIG blog and wikipedia
> have other obstacles too -
> > including lack of control over design and content
> (the wikipedia entry is
> > riddled with vanity spam). What if we got our own
> URL, like
> > www.IGDAARGSIG.org or whatever, and created our
> own quality-controlled
> > portal?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm thinking of a site that provides descriptions
> on ARGs for artists,
> > producers and the press; has links to ARG
> resources & information on design
> > & economic modes as well as a much needed listing
> of the all the developers
> > working in the area. Examples of related sites on
> design are IPerG
> > (Integrated Project on Pervasive Gaming) website:
> http://www.iperg.org/ and
> > Gamasutra: http://www.gamasutra.com
> <http://www.gamasutra.com/> and what
> > about Play Finland: http://www.playfinland.fi/ as
> an example of a portal
> > that promotes developers & their games? Also,
> considering many people have
> > important resources on their own sites, it would
> beneficial to provide links
> > to sites rather than insisting all info be housed
> in the one place, and
> > anonymously.
> >
> >
> >
> > Irrespective of whether a new portal is a way
> forward, another issue is
> > getting initiatives happening. I want to see more
> articles about design for
> > instance! It seems that asking people to
> volunteer to do things hasn't
> > worked so well in the past. What about a Driver &
> Poke model? Yes, I just
> > made that up. People volunteer to be Drivers of
> certain initiative (and
> > rotate amongst each other so no single person is
> doing it the whole time).
> > Those Drivers call for volunteers to do things
> but also directly Poke, or
> > request an article or something from people they
> feel will provide a helpful
> > contribution?
> >
> >
> >
> > And then information such as the history, design
> techniques and research
> > into ARGs can be encouraged and find their proper
> home, and the whitepaper
> > and wiki entry can go back to doing their job.
> >
> >
> >
> > Over to youse all to add ideas, alter ideas or
> blow raspberries. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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