[arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

[Bryan Alexander]

ARGology is fun.  ARGosy, anyone?

This is a good idea, and I'd like to volunteer some time.  May and the
first half of June are crazy (check my Dopplr), but I can follow along,
then pounce.

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From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Andrea Phillips
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

Ooh, I really like argology.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM, varin <varineq at gmail.com> wrote:

> hehe, just did a quick search for names on nameboy.com

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>  argnology.com and argology.com are available - I'm surprised someone

>  hasn't taken those yet!

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>  Michelle Senderhauf

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>  On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM,  <libfli at aol.com> wrote:

>  > i agree.  this is a really great idea!  i would also be willing to

give some time.

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>  >  (and yeah, let's pitch out some other ideas for the addy)

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>  >  maybe "argsrus.com" :)

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>  >  From: varin <varineq at gmail.com>

>  >  To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG <arg_discuss at igda.org>

>  >  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 9:26 am

>  >  Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

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>  >  I think a website like this is a good idea. It would be nice to be

>  >  able to have some control over the organization of information.

I'd

>  >  be willing to help out, just let me know when things get rolling.

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>  >  oh, but www.IGDAARGSIG.org might be a little hard to remember ;P

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>  >  Michelle Senderhauf

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>  >  On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Christy Dena

>  >  <cdena at cross-mediaentertainment.com> wrote:

>  >  > Hey everyone,

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>  >  >  Just a thought about a possible way forward for the ARG SIG.

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>  >  >  I, like many others on this list, would love to see ARGs as

they are better

>  >  >  understood, as well as see ARGs develop in ways unimagined. One

of the

>  >  >  continuing issues we've all spoken about many times on this

list and

>  >  >  elsewhere, are public descriptions of ARGs, the wikipedia

entry, ARG SIG

>  >  >  blog, ARG SIG whitepaper and so on. There has been some

criticism (from

>  >  >  within and outside of the ARG community) of the whitepaper and

wikipedia

>  >  >  entry - two high profile sources of information about ARGs.

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>  >  >

>  >  >  It seems to me that the reason both of these sources fail in

some regards is

>  >  >  in their inappropriately comprehensive nature. In other words,

the

>  >  >  whitepaper and wikipedia entry are trying to be too many

things. What is

>  >  >  great about the whitepaper is that it brings together the

various interests

>  >  >  and expertise of this ARG SIG. It is in some ways a mission

statement for

>  >  >  all the possible initiatives the ARG SIG can achieve:

descriptions of ARGs,

>  >  >  antecedents of ARGs, history of ARGs, types of ARGs, ARG design

techniques,

>  >  >  economic models, ARGs in education & training, ARG research and

so on. We

>  >  >  just need to address these separately, in the right place(s).

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>  >  >

>  >  >  It seems too that the ARG SIG blog and wikipedia have other

obstacles too -

>  >  >  including lack of control over design and content (the

wikipedia entry is

>  >  >  riddled with vanity spam). What if we got our own URL, like

>  >  >  www.IGDAARGSIG.org or whatever, and created our own

quality-controlled

>  >  >  portal?

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>  >  >  I'm thinking of a site that provides descriptions on ARGs for

artists,

>  >  >  producers and the press; has links to ARG resources &

information on design

>  >  >  & economic modes as well as a much needed listing of the all

the developers

>  >  >  working in the area. Examples of related sites on design are

IPerG

>  >  >  (Integrated Project on Pervasive Gaming) website:

http://www.iperg.org/ and

>  >  >  Gamasutra: http://www.gamasutra.com <http://www.gamasutra.com/>

and what

>  >  >  about Play Finland: http://www.playfinland.fi/ as an example of

a portal

>  >  >  that promotes developers & their games? Also, considering many

people have

>  >  >  important resources on their own sites, it would beneficial to

provide links

>  >  >  to sites rather than insisting all info be housed in the one

place, and

>  >  >  anonymously.

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>  >  >  Irrespective of whether a new portal is a way forward, another

issue is

>  >  >  getting initiatives happening. I want to see more articles

about design for

>  >  >  instance! It seems that asking people to volunteer to do things

hasn't

>  >  >  worked so well in the past. What about a Driver & Poke model?

Yes, I just

>  >  >  made that up. People volunteer to be Drivers of certain

initiative (and

>  >  >  rotate amongst each other so no single person is doing it the

whole time).

>  >  >  Those Drivers call for volunteers to do things but also

directly Poke, or

>  >  >  request an article or something from people they feel will

provide a helpful

>  >  >  contribution?

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>  >  >  And then information such as the history, design techniques and

research

>  >  >  into ARGs can be encouraged and find their proper home, and the

whitepaper

>  >  >  and wiki entry can go back to doing their job.

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>  >  >

>  >  >  Over to youse all to add ideas, alter ideas or blow

raspberries. :-)

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>  >  >  Best,

>  >  >

>  >  >  Christy

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