[Coco] Basic09 versions

Dave Philipsen dave at davebiz.com
Wed Jun 7 02:45:51 EDT 2017 

That's cool.  I haven't touched the source since around 1989 or so. In fact my original source with my comments is on a disk, I think, but I don't have a CoCo 3 with a floppy to read it.  I think the source that is floating around now is the one that Randy Wilson disassembled and commented. 

Dave

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 1:21 AM, L. Curtis Boyle <curtisboyle at sasktel.net> wrote:
> 
> I know I had done some optimizations to Supercomm for internal use at our work while were developing NitrOS9… I will have to see if I am lucky and still have a copy of it. Can’t even remember what all I did.
> 
> L. Curtis Boyle
> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:02 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'll let you know if I hear back from him.  He was an encouragement to me in the early OS9 days and he and another fellow beta-tested SuperComm and kept a list of features and ideas they thought would be good additions.  I only made it to a couple of the Daltrug meetings over in Dallas back in the mid/late 80s but Lee and I communicated fairly often when I was living in that area.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/7/2017 12:54 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>>> It would be interesting to see how he is doing. I haven’t talked to him much since he moved. Him and David Wordell (?) used to come up to the Fest together.
>>> (I hope I am remember that name right).
>>> 
>>> L. Curtis Boyle
>>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I exchanged a couple of emails with him in March of 2014.  At that time I believe he had moved back to the US and I think he was living in Oklahoma.  You may know that he lost his wife.  I think it was in 2010.  Even when I talked with him several years later it seemed like he was really having a hard time with that.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sending him off an email tonight and we'll see if he responds.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/7/2017 12:34 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>>>>> Lee retired to Mexico, and took the Coco 1/serial #0001 with him, last time I talked to him (which was the CocoFest before he moved).
>>>>> 
>>>>> L. Curtis Boyle
>>>>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hmmmm....well, it was owned by Lee Veal for many years and I'd have a hard time imagining that he would have ever let go of it.  He was an officer of the Dallas TRS-80 users group (Daltrug) for awhile.  I don't believe he is active on the CoCo scene anymore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2017 12:12 AM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> Seems I heard that serial# 000001 was being auctioned off, and I don't know
>>>>>>> who bought it. I might be not remembering this correctly.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yep.  Definitely nostalgic thinking back...it took a lot more work to find
>>>>>>>> the information / parts you needed.  There are a lot of young people that
>>>>>>>> don't know what the world was like without Google!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I remember the countless nights coming home to my apartment in Irving, TX
>>>>>>>> crunching away on the code for Supercomm and my RuxPro project (programming
>>>>>>>> system for Teddy Ruxpin that ran under OS9) and others.  I can remember my
>>>>>>>> original RS 300 baud modem with the switch you flipped when you heard the
>>>>>>>> carrier on the other end, and how cool it was to upgrade to 1200 then 2400
>>>>>>>> then 9600 then 14,400 bps modems, etc.  and all the hand-soldered wires,
>>>>>>>> EPROMs, dot-matrix printers, modifications & stuff like that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I may have mentioned this before but I knew a fellow down there who owned
>>>>>>>> a CoCo 1 with serial #000001!  Last time I talked with him a few years ago
>>>>>>>> he still had it...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:56 PM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Those were the days. You could find just about anything if you looked
>>>>>>>>> around. Now, even googling doesn't always return positive results.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The interesting thing is that sometimes I would go down to the warehouse
>>>>>>>>>> and they would have palettes and tables and shelves of discontinued
>>>>>>>>>> stuff;
>>>>>>>>>> old manuals, software, computers, gadgets, etc. It was a computer geek's
>>>>>>>>>> dream come true.  I guess that's why I was always stopping in to see what
>>>>>>>>>> cool stuff they might have.  There was also a big ham/electronics flea
>>>>>>>>>> market on the first Saturday of every month in Dallas under one of the
>>>>>>>>>> freeway overpasses where I would buy RAM chips, EPROMs, CPUs, and that
>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>> of thing.  This was circa 1985-1989.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:29 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Wayne, I had 2 copies of L1 Basic09 over time, and I don't remember
>>>>>>>>>>> either being a flippy. I know RS never did fully support flippies...
>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>> they'd had to admit their drives were double sided and explain why they
>>>>>>>>>>> never updated Basic for double sides.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce
>>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to
>>>>>>>>>>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 12:23 am
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Basic09 versions
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> That is definitely the Level 1 version. It would be good to have a copy
>>>>>>>>>>> inwhatever repository is current. Can you tell me if you remember
>>>>>>>>>>> theoriginal floppy being a flippy? I have heard before that it had some
>>>>>>>>>>> fileson the opposite side, but I never thought about that when I had my
>>>>>>>>>>> Level 1system.On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <
>>>>>>>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Wayne, I have a disk image labeled
>>>>>>>>>>> "Basic09_1.0.0.dsk", and on it are> BASIC09, INKEY, RUNB, & GFX (no
>>>>>>>>>>> directories). When run it displays (level> 1, hence all uppercase):>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09> RS VERSION 01.00.00> COPYRIGHT 1980 BY MOTOROLA INC.> AND
>>>>>>>>>>> MICROWARE SYSTEMS CORP.> REPRODUCED UNDER LICENSE> TO TANDY CORP.> ALL
>>>>>>>>>>> RIGHTS RESERVED>> I'm pretty sure it's the same one you are referring
>>>>>>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>>>>>>> remember SYSCALL> was in the manual and you had to assemble it with asm
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.>> I probably copied the disk image from my master disk before
>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> drives went> out.> I can upload the disk to Guillaume if needed.>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> manual is already in the colorcomputerarchive:>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Programming/
>>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09%20Programming%20Language%20Reference%20Manual%20-%
>>>>>>>>>>> 20Revision%20H%>
>>>>>>>>>>> 20(Microware%20System%20Corp).pdf>> It is copywritten 1980-1984>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop
>>>>>>>>>>> going,
>>>>>>>>>>> no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music from the
>>>>>>>>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/
>>>>>>>>>>> dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail:
>>>>>>>>>>> ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Wayne
>>>>>>>>>>> Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList <coco at maltedmedia.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 10:02 pm> Subject: [Coco] Basic09 versions>> For
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> long time I have known this, but have not been able to prove it.> WhenI
>>>>>>>>>>> first got into the CoCo it was a CoCo2 Korean model and OS-9 Level 1.>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ialso had the Level 1 Basic09. When I got my CoCo3 and OS-9 Level 2,>
>>>>>>>>>>> Icompared the two versions of Basic09. T
>>>>>>>>>>> here were only 3 differences.Level> 14K default buffer size01.00.00
>>>>>>>>>>> version number in the display text at the> top of the moduleCRC was not
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same as Level 2 Basic09Level 28K default> buffer size01.00.01 version
>>>>>>>>>>> number in the display text at the top of the> moduleCRC was not the
>>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>>> Level 1 Basic09I have never found a disk> image of the Level 1 Basic09
>>>>>>>>>>> disk. It was soldseparately from OS-9 Level 1.> I have found the Dragon
>>>>>>>>>>> version of Basic09Level 1 (version 01.00.00), but> it has a different
>>>>>>>>>>> display text from theCoCo version.I had all but given up> hope of ever
>>>>>>>>>>> finding a copy of the CoCo Basic09Level 1 disk (or an image).> Today I
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking about it, and decided toso some searching. Lo and> behold, I
>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>> what appears to be a pristinecopy for sale on EBay. The> description
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> "untested", but the disk andmanual and box look brand new!> There are 3
>>>>>>>>>>> photos. The middle photo is acloseup of the disk in its sleeve.> The
>>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>>> left portion of the exposeddisk shows the version number> 01.00.00.I
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> this! It is for sale for $89.99 or best offer, and the> shipping isonly
>>>>>>>>>>> $3.61. I have enough cash, but I don't have a credit card.> There are
>>>>>>>>>>> 5people watching it, and the time left is 19 days, 20 hours. No> one has
>>>>>>>>>>> madean offer yet. If I can get my friend to use his card, I am> going to
>>>>>>>>>>> buy ittoday. Once I have it, I will need to know if someone on> this
>>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>> is herein Los Angeles and can make an image of the disk, and> possibly
>>>>>>>>>>> scan
>>>>>>>>>>> themanual without destroying it. Then I can add them to the> archive and
>>>>>>>>>>> wewill have the original Basic09 and manual to go with the> Level 1
>>>>>>>>>>> system.Wish me luck on getting it!-- WayneThe Structure of>
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