[Coco] Basic09 versions

Wed Jun 7 02:21:16 EDT 2017

I know I had done some optimizations to Supercomm for internal use at our work while were developing NitrOS9… I will have to see if I am lucky and still have a copy of it. Can’t even remember what all I did.

L. Curtis Boyle
curtisboyle at sasktel.net

> On Jun 7, 2017, at 12:02 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
> 
> I'll let you know if I hear back from him.  He was an encouragement to me in the early OS9 days and he and another fellow beta-tested SuperComm and kept a list of features and ideas they thought would be good additions.  I only made it to a couple of the Daltrug meetings over in Dallas back in the mid/late 80s but Lee and I communicated fairly often when I was living in that area.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/7/2017 12:54 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>> It would be interesting to see how he is doing. I haven’t talked to him much since he moved. Him and David Wordell (?) used to come up to the Fest together.
>> (I hope I am remember that name right).
>> 
>> L. Curtis Boyle
>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I exchanged a couple of emails with him in March of 2014.  At that time I believe he had moved back to the US and I think he was living in Oklahoma.  You may know that he lost his wife.  I think it was in 2010.  Even when I talked with him several years later it seemed like he was really having a hard time with that.
>>> 
>>> I'm sending him off an email tonight and we'll see if he responds.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/7/2017 12:34 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>>>> Lee retired to Mexico, and took the Coco 1/serial #0001 with him, last time I talked to him (which was the CocoFest before he moved).
>>>> 
>>>> L. Curtis Boyle
>>>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmmmm....well, it was owned by Lee Veal for many years and I'd have a hard time imagining that he would have ever let go of it.  He was an officer of the Dallas TRS-80 users group (Daltrug) for awhile.  I don't believe he is active on the CoCo scene anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/7/2017 12:12 AM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> Seems I heard that serial# 000001 was being auctioned off, and I don't know
>>>>>> who bought it. I might be not remembering this correctly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yep.  Definitely nostalgic thinking back...it took a lot more work to find
>>>>>>> the information / parts you needed.  There are a lot of young people that
>>>>>>> don't know what the world was like without Google!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I remember the countless nights coming home to my apartment in Irving, TX
>>>>>>> crunching away on the code for Supercomm and my RuxPro project (programming
>>>>>>> system for Teddy Ruxpin that ran under OS9) and others.  I can remember my
>>>>>>> original RS 300 baud modem with the switch you flipped when you heard the
>>>>>>> carrier on the other end, and how cool it was to upgrade to 1200 then 2400
>>>>>>> then 9600 then 14,400 bps modems, etc.  and all the hand-soldered wires,
>>>>>>> EPROMs, dot-matrix printers, modifications & stuff like that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I may have mentioned this before but I knew a fellow down there who owned
>>>>>>> a CoCo 1 with serial #000001!  Last time I talked with him a few years ago
>>>>>>> he still had it...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:56 PM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Those were the days. You could find just about anything if you looked
>>>>>>>> around. Now, even googling doesn't always return positive results.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The interesting thing is that sometimes I would go down to the warehouse
>>>>>>>>> and they would have palettes and tables and shelves of discontinued
>>>>>>>>> stuff;
>>>>>>>>> old manuals, software, computers, gadgets, etc. It was a computer geek's
>>>>>>>>> dream come true.  I guess that's why I was always stopping in to see what
>>>>>>>>> cool stuff they might have.  There was also a big ham/electronics flea
>>>>>>>>> market on the first Saturday of every month in Dallas under one of the
>>>>>>>>> freeway overpasses where I would buy RAM chips, EPROMs, CPUs, and that
>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>> of thing.  This was circa 1985-1989.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:29 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wayne, I had 2 copies of L1 Basic09 over time, and I don't remember
>>>>>>>>>> either being a flippy. I know RS never did fully support flippies...
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> they'd had to admit their drives were double sided and explain why they
>>>>>>>>>> never updated Basic for double sides.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce
>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to
>>>>>>>>>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>>>>>>>>>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 12:23 am
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Basic09 versions
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That is definitely the Level 1 version. It would be good to have a copy
>>>>>>>>>> inwhatever repository is current. Can you tell me if you remember
>>>>>>>>>> theoriginal floppy being a flippy? I have heard before that it had some
>>>>>>>>>> fileson the opposite side, but I never thought about that when I had my
>>>>>>>>>> Level 1system.On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <
>>>>>>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Wayne, I have a disk image labeled
>>>>>>>>>> "Basic09_1.0.0.dsk", and on it are> BASIC09, INKEY, RUNB, & GFX (no
>>>>>>>>>> directories). When run it displays (level> 1, hence all uppercase):>>
>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09> RS VERSION 01.00.00> COPYRIGHT 1980 BY MOTOROLA INC.> AND
>>>>>>>>>> MICROWARE SYSTEMS CORP.> REPRODUCED UNDER LICENSE> TO TANDY CORP.> ALL
>>>>>>>>>> RIGHTS RESERVED>> I'm pretty sure it's the same one you are referring
>>>>>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>>>>>> remember SYSCALL> was in the manual and you had to assemble it with asm
>>>>>>>>>> yourself.>> I probably copied the disk image from my master disk before
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> drives went> out.> I can upload the disk to Guillaume if needed.>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> manual is already in the colorcomputerarchive:>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Programming/
>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09%20Programming%20Language%20Reference%20Manual%20-%
>>>>>>>>>> 20Revision%20H%>
>>>>>>>>>> 20(Microware%20System%20Corp).pdf>> It is copywritten 1980-1984>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop
>>>>>>>>>> going,
>>>>>>>>>> no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music from the
>>>>>>>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/
>>>>>>>>>> dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail:
>>>>>>>>>> ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Wayne
>>>>>>>>>> Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList <coco at maltedmedia.com>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 10:02 pm> Subject: [Coco] Basic09 versions>> For
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> long time I have known this, but have not been able to prove it.> WhenI
>>>>>>>>>> first got into the CoCo it was a CoCo2 Korean model and OS-9 Level 1.>
>>>>>>>>>> Ialso had the Level 1 Basic09. When I got my CoCo3 and OS-9 Level 2,>
>>>>>>>>>> Icompared the two versions of Basic09. T
>>>>>>>>>> here were only 3 differences.Level> 14K default buffer size01.00.00
>>>>>>>>>> version number in the display text at the> top of the moduleCRC was not
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same as Level 2 Basic09Level 28K default> buffer size01.00.01 version
>>>>>>>>>> number in the display text at the top of the> moduleCRC was not the
>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>> Level 1 Basic09I have never found a disk> image of the Level 1 Basic09
>>>>>>>>>> disk. It was soldseparately from OS-9 Level 1.> I have found the Dragon
>>>>>>>>>> version of Basic09Level 1 (version 01.00.00), but> it has a different
>>>>>>>>>> display text from theCoCo version.I had all but given up> hope of ever
>>>>>>>>>> finding a copy of the CoCo Basic09Level 1 disk (or an image).> Today I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> thinking about it, and decided toso some searching. Lo and> behold, I
>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>> what appears to be a pristinecopy for sale on EBay. The> description
>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>> "untested", but the disk andmanual and box look brand new!> There are 3
>>>>>>>>>> photos. The middle photo is acloseup of the disk in its sleeve.> The
>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>> left portion of the exposeddisk shows the version number> 01.00.00.I
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> this! It is for sale for $89.99 or best offer, and the> shipping isonly
>>>>>>>>>> $3.61. I have enough cash, but I don't have a credit card.> There are
>>>>>>>>>> 5people watching it, and the time left is 19 days, 20 hours. No> one has
>>>>>>>>>> madean offer yet. If I can get my friend to use his card, I am> going to
>>>>>>>>>> buy ittoday. Once I have it, I will need to know if someone on> this
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> is herein Los Angeles and can make an image of the disk, and> possibly
>>>>>>>>>> scan
>>>>>>>>>> themanual without destroying it. Then I can add them to the> archive and
>>>>>>>>>> wewill have the original Basic09 and manual to go with the> Level 1
>>>>>>>>>> system.Wish me luck on getting it!-- WayneThe Structure of>
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