[Coco] CocoRPi3 update

Fri Apr 14 15:32:02 EDT 2017

I have several models of Pi here, from the first B model to the latest Zero
E. I'll run some tests once the image is available.

On Apr 14, 2017 3:03 PM, "Ron Klein" <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:

> Hi Salvador,
>
> I never tried this on an RPi2.  I went right to RPi3 when it became
> available.  You can certainly try it if you'd like -- though I have no idea
> if it will work.  I'm getting close to posting links for the download.  I
> will have at least one site to get the image from, possibly 1 to 2 more.
>
> Thank you!
>
> -Ron
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks. I am interested in your project. My only downside is that I only
> > have an R-Pi 2B. At looking at the specs it seems that both board have
> > similar traits, except that the 3 is faster (faster ARM uP) and has
> > Bluetooth and Wifi built in (whereas the 2B does not). Salvador
> >
> >
> >
> >       From: Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> >  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> >  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:58 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
> >
> > Hi Salvador,
> >
> > Yes, class 10 performs very well.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> > coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> > > By fast, do you mean CLASS 10?
> > >
> > > Salvador
> > >
> > >
> > >      From: Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> > >  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > >  Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:42 PM
> > >  Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
> > >
> > > Hi Frank and Scott,
> > >
> > > SD cards with faster speeds are the preferred way to go.
> > >
> > > I personally use a 32GB card and it's very fast.  I believe slower
> cards
> > > will impact the emulator performance (file I/O).  If slower loading of
> > the
> > > emulators are not an issue, card speed won't matter as much.  Once
> things
> > > are loaded into memory, performance should be the same between Pi's.
> > >
> > > My 16GB card order has been back ordered so now I'm looking for
> something
> > > else.  I do have some 8GB cards (which will work) but they are only
> > class 4
> > > so speed will not be great.  I just tested one and it seems to work OK,
> > so
> > > I'll be bringing 8GB cards to the show.  I won't be charging anyone for
> > the
> > > cost of the cards either, but I'll only have 7 unless I can pick some
> up
> > > before next weekend.  I wanted to get this into the hands of some folks
> > at
> > > the show as a courtesy.  I plan on bring my laptop so if others bring
> > > cards, I can dump the image to them.
> > >
> > > I will be posting the image and initial documentation sometime over the
> > > weekend.  I'll post the links as soon as they are ready.
> > >
> > > As an FYI (as I don't recall if I mentioned it), but local copy of
> > > Drivewire on the image can be used to host files to the emulators
> > > themselves as well as a real Coco - depending on what you want to do.
> It
> > > just requires a USB to serial adapter for use with a real Coco.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to the show and hope to see a large attendance!
> > >
> > > -Ron
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Frank Pittel <fpittel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The local microcenter sells 16gig cards cost $1 more than an 8gig
> card.
> > > The
> > > > bigger card is a much better deal.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Scott Wendt <malfunct at msn.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't say that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A smaller initial image is good because it allows people who want
> to
> > > use
> > > > > smaller cards to have that option, but raspbian can be expanded to
> > fit
> > > > > larger cards easily so if you want 16gb go for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of Frank
> Pittel
> > <
> > > > > fpittel at gmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:44:17 PM
> > > > > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this mean 8gig microSD cards are preferred to 16gig?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Glen Hewlett <
> > > glen.hewlett at sympatico.ca
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just posted this on Facebook too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is great Ron <https://www.facebook.com/ron.
> > > > > klein.9461?hc_location=ufi>,
> > > > > > I'm looking forward to playing with the image you created.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About a year and a half ago I 3D modelled a CoCo 1 and uploaded
> it
> > to
> > > > > > thingiverse. At the time I also hacked my model to hold a
> Raspberry
> > > Pi
> > > > > 3! I
> > > > > > found my STL file and I just uploaded it to thingiverse for
> anyone
> > > who
> > > > > > wants to 3D print there own CoCoPi The link to the 3D model is:
> > > > > > http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2247877 <
> > > http://www.thingiverse.com/
> > > > > > thing:2247877>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > > Glen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 12, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Steve,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steve Strowbridge <
> > > > > > ogsteviestrow at gmail.com <mailto:ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> This is great Ron, are you going to be at CoCoFEST! again this
> > > year?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, I plan to be at CocoFEST again this year.  I live about an
> > > hour
> > > > > > north
> > > > > > > of there (in Kenosha, WI).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Will
> > > > > > >> you bring one to demo? Love to see it, and I'd be interested
> in
> > > > > getting
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >> CoCoPi at some point if it was user friendly enough, I'm not
> > > > hardware
> > > > > > handy
> > > > > > >> with soldering and assembly of boards and such.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm bringing a few things this year and sharing a table by
> Brett.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > > have a real Coco 3 and Roger's Nanomate (to use with Brett's
> > > > > > > Fuzix/networking presentation).  I'm also bringing my RPi3
> along
> > > > with a
> > > > > > > handful of 16GB SD cards with the CocoPi3 distribution ready to
> > > run.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > RPi3 doesn't require any building.  Just add an SD card and
> power
> > > > > supply
> > > > > > > (unless you by a package that includes it).  Check out
> Amazon...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Now we just need John Strong to make a 3D CoCo shaped case for
> > it,
> > > > if
> > > > > he
> > > > > > >> hasn't already.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh heck yes!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> What is the output? HDMI? What do you use for controllers? any
> > > > > standard
> > > > > > >> USB?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > Built-in HDMI.  It also has composite video available on the
> GPIO
> > > > > header
> > > > > > > block.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> How is the software selection and menu updated?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > It uses Raspbian as the base OS (Linux based).  I just add the
> > > > > emulators,
> > > > > > > menu and a few scripts to it.  The SD image I will be providing
> > has
> > > > > > > everything ready to go.  Copy the image to an 8GB (or higher)
> SD
> > > card
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > you're ready to go.  The RPi3 has built-in 100Mbit network
> jack,
> > > > WiFi,
> > > > > > > Bluetooth and 4 USB ports.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I use a USB keyboard and mouse.  I also have a Nintendo Wii-U
> Pro
> > > > > > > Controller that works perfectly with the Bluetooth.  Raspbian
> > > > supports
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > right out of the box.  I chose that controller as it has
> digital
> > > and
> > > > > > analog
> > > > > > > controls.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Is there a blog/project site for this? Love to add it to my
> CoCo
> > > > links
> > > > > > >> page.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I do not.  :(  I need to think about setting one up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks for putting in the effort, what a cool project.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you.  I hope others find it interesting enough to try.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Steve Strowbridge, aka
> > > > > > >> The Original Gamer Stevie Strow
> > > > > > >> http://ogsteviestrow.com
> > > > > > >> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi just posted this on Facebook as well, but wanted to post
> > here
> > > as
> > > > > > well
> > > > > > >>> (for those of you not on Facebook).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The initial CocoPi3 distribution image has been created. It
> > only
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >>> be downloaded and copied to an SD card. It will automatically
> > > boot
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>> a menu system. A few things to note:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The file system size came in just under 4 GB but would not
> > quite
> > > > fit
> > > > > > on a
> > > > > > >>> 4GB SD card. When I created the image, I did so from an 8GB
> > card.
> > > > > When
> > > > > > >>> compressed (via zip) the download file size will be
> > approximately
> > > > > > 3.3GB.
> > > > > > >> I
> > > > > > >>> will continue to look for ways to improve the package and
> > > > > distribution
> > > > > > >>> system, but for now it is what it is.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I have created some initial documentation to provide with the
> > SD
> > > > card
> > > > > > >>> image. It will need updating and I'm sure I've missed things,
> > but
> > > > > > wanted
> > > > > > >> to
> > > > > > >>> make something available as quickly as I could. For those who
> > are
> > > > > > >>> interested in trying this distribution, I welcome any
> feedback
> > > > (good
> > > > > or
> > > > > > >>> bad). I'm hoping others will find the project enjoyable and
> > > > > > expand/modify
> > > > > > >>> it as they see fit. It would be great to see other ideas,
> etc.,
> > > > > shared
> > > > > > >> with
> > > > > > >>> the rest of this great Coco community.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I've been contacted by a few people who were kind enough to
> > offer
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >>> hosting options for me. I will make sure to provide links for
> > the
> > > > SD
> > > > > > card
> > > > > > >>> image and documentation soon.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> One final note - I've thoroughly enjoyed my time spent on
> > getting
> > > > > Coco
> > > > > > >>> emulation running the RPi3. It's not perfect, but it's
> > certainly
> > > a
> > > > > very
> > > > > > >>> good start to something I think may become more popular as an
> > > > > > >> "alternative"
> > > > > > >>> way to enjoy a Coco experience. I will still always prefer my
> > > real
> > > > > Coco
> > > > > > >>> hardware but this project may help expose others to the Coco
> > > world
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >> get
> > > > > > >>> them more interested in our hobby. Perhaps enough to look for
> > > real
> > > > > Coco
> > > > > > >>> equipment. I realize that emulation can be run any many types
> > of
> > > > > > >>> workstations. The CocoPi3 projects provides a standard
> platform
> > > for
> > > > > > >> running
> > > > > > >>> the emulators -- using the exact same equipment, software.,
> > etc..
> > > > > From
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >>> community support perspective, it has it's pluses.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks!
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> -Ron
> > > > > > >>>
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