[Coco] CocoRPi3 update

Fri Apr 14 15:03:01 EDT 2017

Hi Salvador,

I never tried this on an RPi2.  I went right to RPi3 when it became
available.  You can certainly try it if you'd like -- though I have no idea
if it will work.  I'm getting close to posting links for the download.  I
will have at least one site to get the image from, possibly 1 to 2 more.

Thank you!

-Ron

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:

> Thanks. I am interested in your project. My only downside is that I only
> have an R-Pi 2B. At looking at the specs it seems that both board have
> similar traits, except that the 3 is faster (faster ARM uP) and has
> Bluetooth and Wifi built in (whereas the 2B does not). Salvador
>
>
>
>       From: Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
>  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:58 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
>
> Hi Salvador,
>
> Yes, class 10 performs very well.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>
> > By fast, do you mean CLASS 10?
> >
> > Salvador
> >
> >
> >      From: Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> >  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> >  Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:42 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
> >
> > Hi Frank and Scott,
> >
> > SD cards with faster speeds are the preferred way to go.
> >
> > I personally use a 32GB card and it's very fast.  I believe slower cards
> > will impact the emulator performance (file I/O).  If slower loading of
> the
> > emulators are not an issue, card speed won't matter as much.  Once things
> > are loaded into memory, performance should be the same between Pi's.
> >
> > My 16GB card order has been back ordered so now I'm looking for something
> > else.  I do have some 8GB cards (which will work) but they are only
> class 4
> > so speed will not be great.  I just tested one and it seems to work OK,
> so
> > I'll be bringing 8GB cards to the show.  I won't be charging anyone for
> the
> > cost of the cards either, but I'll only have 7 unless I can pick some up
> > before next weekend.  I wanted to get this into the hands of some folks
> at
> > the show as a courtesy.  I plan on bring my laptop so if others bring
> > cards, I can dump the image to them.
> >
> > I will be posting the image and initial documentation sometime over the
> > weekend.  I'll post the links as soon as they are ready.
> >
> > As an FYI (as I don't recall if I mentioned it), but local copy of
> > Drivewire on the image can be used to host files to the emulators
> > themselves as well as a real Coco - depending on what you want to do.  It
> > just requires a USB to serial adapter for use with a real Coco.
> >
> > Looking forward to the show and hope to see a large attendance!
> >
> > -Ron
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Frank Pittel <fpittel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The local microcenter sells 16gig cards cost $1 more than an 8gig card.
> > The
> > > bigger card is a much better deal.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Scott Wendt <malfunct at msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wouldn't say that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A smaller initial image is good because it allows people who want to
> > use
> > > > smaller cards to have that option, but raspbian can be expanded to
> fit
> > > > larger cards easily so if you want 16gb go for it.
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of Frank Pittel
> <
> > > > fpittel at gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:44:17 PM
> > > > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> > > > Subject: Re: [Coco] CocoRPi3 update
> > > >
> > > > Does this mean 8gig microSD cards are preferred to 16gig?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Glen Hewlett <
> > glen.hewlett at sympatico.ca
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just posted this on Facebook too.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is great Ron <https://www.facebook.com/ron.
> > > > klein.9461?hc_location=ufi>,
> > > > > I'm looking forward to playing with the image you created.
> > > > >
> > > > > About a year and a half ago I 3D modelled a CoCo 1 and uploaded it
> to
> > > > > thingiverse. At the time I also hacked my model to hold a Raspberry
> > Pi
> > > > 3! I
> > > > > found my STL file and I just uploaded it to thingiverse for anyone
> > who
> > > > > wants to 3D print there own CoCoPi The link to the 3D model is:
> > > > > http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2247877 <
> > http://www.thingiverse.com/
> > > > > thing:2247877>
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > Glen
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 12, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Steve Strowbridge <
> > > > > ogsteviestrow at gmail.com <mailto:ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> This is great Ron, are you going to be at CoCoFEST! again this
> > year?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I plan to be at CocoFEST again this year.  I live about an
> > hour
> > > > > north
> > > > > > of there (in Kenosha, WI).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Will
> > > > > >> you bring one to demo? Love to see it, and I'd be interested in
> > > > getting
> > > > > a
> > > > > >> CoCoPi at some point if it was user friendly enough, I'm not
> > > hardware
> > > > > handy
> > > > > >> with soldering and assembly of boards and such.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm bringing a few things this year and sharing a table by Brett.
> > > I'll
> > > > > > have a real Coco 3 and Roger's Nanomate (to use with Brett's
> > > > > > Fuzix/networking presentation).  I'm also bringing my RPi3 along
> > > with a
> > > > > > handful of 16GB SD cards with the CocoPi3 distribution ready to
> > run.
> > > > The
> > > > > > RPi3 doesn't require any building.  Just add an SD card and power
> > > > supply
> > > > > > (unless you by a package that includes it).  Check out Amazon...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Now we just need John Strong to make a 3D CoCo shaped case for
> it,
> > > if
> > > > he
> > > > > >> hasn't already.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh heck yes!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> What is the output? HDMI? What do you use for controllers? any
> > > > standard
> > > > > >> USB?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > Built-in HDMI.  It also has composite video available on the GPIO
> > > > header
> > > > > > block.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> How is the software selection and menu updated?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > It uses Raspbian as the base OS (Linux based).  I just add the
> > > > emulators,
> > > > > > menu and a few scripts to it.  The SD image I will be providing
> has
> > > > > > everything ready to go.  Copy the image to an 8GB (or higher) SD
> > card
> > > > and
> > > > > > you're ready to go.  The RPi3 has built-in 100Mbit network jack,
> > > WiFi,
> > > > > > Bluetooth and 4 USB ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use a USB keyboard and mouse.  I also have a Nintendo Wii-U Pro
> > > > > > Controller that works perfectly with the Bluetooth.  Raspbian
> > > supports
> > > > it
> > > > > > right out of the box.  I chose that controller as it has digital
> > and
> > > > > analog
> > > > > > controls.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Is there a blog/project site for this? Love to add it to my CoCo
> > > links
> > > > > >> page.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do not.  :(  I need to think about setting one up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks for putting in the effort, what a cool project.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.  I hope others find it interesting enough to try.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Steve Strowbridge, aka
> > > > > >> The Original Gamer Stevie Strow
> > > > > >> http://ogsteviestrow.com
> > > > > >> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi just posted this on Facebook as well, but wanted to post
> here
> > as
> > > > > well
> > > > > >>> (for those of you not on Facebook).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The initial CocoPi3 distribution image has been created. It
> only
> > > > needs
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>> be downloaded and copied to an SD card. It will automatically
> > boot
> > > > > right
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >>> a menu system. A few things to note:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The file system size came in just under 4 GB but would not
> quite
> > > fit
> > > > > on a
> > > > > >>> 4GB SD card. When I created the image, I did so from an 8GB
> card.
> > > > When
> > > > > >>> compressed (via zip) the download file size will be
> approximately
> > > > > 3.3GB.
> > > > > >> I
> > > > > >>> will continue to look for ways to improve the package and
> > > > distribution
> > > > > >>> system, but for now it is what it is.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have created some initial documentation to provide with the
> SD
> > > card
> > > > > >>> image. It will need updating and I'm sure I've missed things,
> but
> > > > > wanted
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >>> make something available as quickly as I could. For those who
> are
> > > > > >>> interested in trying this distribution, I welcome any feedback
> > > (good
> > > > or
> > > > > >>> bad). I'm hoping others will find the project enjoyable and
> > > > > expand/modify
> > > > > >>> it as they see fit. It would be great to see other ideas, etc.,
> > > > shared
> > > > > >> with
> > > > > >>> the rest of this great Coco community.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I've been contacted by a few people who were kind enough to
> offer
> > > > some
> > > > > >>> hosting options for me. I will make sure to provide links for
> the
> > > SD
> > > > > card
> > > > > >>> image and documentation soon.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> One final note - I've thoroughly enjoyed my time spent on
> getting
> > > > Coco
> > > > > >>> emulation running the RPi3. It's not perfect, but it's
> certainly
> > a
> > > > very
> > > > > >>> good start to something I think may become more popular as an
> > > > > >> "alternative"
> > > > > >>> way to enjoy a Coco experience. I will still always prefer my
> > real
> > > > Coco
> > > > > >>> hardware but this project may help expose others to the Coco
> > world
> > > > and
> > > > > >> get
> > > > > >>> them more interested in our hobby. Perhaps enough to look for
> > real
> > > > Coco
> > > > > >>> equipment. I realize that emulation can be run any many types
> of
> > > > > >>> workstations. The CocoPi3 projects provides a standard platform
> > for
> > > > > >> running
> > > > > >>> the emulators -- using the exact same equipment, software.,
> etc..
> > > > From
> > > > > a
> > > > > >>> community support perspective, it has it's pluses.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -Ron
> > > > > >>>
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