[Coco] more that one shell from an external terminal(update)

[David Ladd]

Bill, the way you describe does work very nicely.  Another thing I have
done is using Putty on a PC and telnetting into DW4 into the connection
that way and then having multiple putty sessions going and just ALT Tabbing
to each putty session. :D

Hmmm this might make a good walkthrough video at some point :D

On Friday, September 18, 2015, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
wrote:

> George, the DW4 way I described would work for you, but it involves using
> Drivewire4. You could monitor as many 'shells' as you like from the PC.
>
> You could even do this from your startup by creating all the PC terminals
> every time you boot... Let's say you wanted 2 terminals open running their
> own shells:
>
> -- startup stuff --
> shell i=/z1&
> shell i=/z2&
> -- rest of startup stuff --
>
> Using this, as soon as you boot up, 2 terminal windows will appear on your
> PC in 80x24 text. You can run most any text based application from these
> windows just as if you are sitting at the Coco (no graphics).
> Of course, this is using DW4, but it's also faster than a regular serial
> port connection as it's running 115kb!
>
> From these windows, you can even mount DSKs and VHDs directly into DW4
> without bringing up the DW4 server GUI, but that's another story for
> another time :-)
> DW4 offers all you are asking and much more. A lot of people don't use DW4
> because they don't want their Coco 'tethered' to a PC, but you're doing
> that anyway, so why not DW4? And all it takes is a modified serial cable
> which you'll be running for the serial connection anyway.
>
> If what you are trying to do is monitor your external Coco experiments,
> this would be perfect for that! Any text based cmd can be run from these
> windows.. even TSEdit. I think there's a list on the DW4 wiki of what
> control codes it supports, if not, I'm sure Aaron could tell you.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Ramsower <georgera at gvtc.com <javascript:;>>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 2:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] more that one shell from an external terminal(update)
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> On 9/18/2015 2:31 AM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>
>   Big <snip> here....
> >
> >
> In this experiment (which again, was DW4 based), I could find no way to
> create a
> shell from a terminal and then switch to it. Someone with a little more
> knowledge may know a trick or two that I don't (many do) and may be able
> to do
> this, but I saw no way to be able to send the proper control codes for it
> to
> switch and the terminal had no way of knowing any different. As stated
> above, I
> did get 4 individual terminals going and could switch between them on the
> PC,
> with all 4 showing at once.
> >
> >
> > And.... I had a lot of fun trying... :-)
> >
> >
>
>
> I was thinking on this last night....
>
>   For one thing, we would not be creating
> a shell. They should already
> be created, just like windows (w1, w2,<etc>).  The
> shells for those
> windows are already there. The window is just waiting for an
> input,
> AFTER a person begins using the keyboard, once selecting that window. I
>
> expect changing to another port descriptor might be the same. Again,
> just
> guessing here. But how would this be done? And how the heck could a
> port
> descriptor be changed or how to change to a different shell.... oh,
> this gets
> confusing. It seems the answer would be in the way OS9 does it
> for the
> keyboard.... another shell on that same keyboard.
>   A detailed knowledge of OS9
> and it's inner workings would be very
> helpful here.
>   I'm guessing here. I
> suppose these shells would be assigned to that
> com port such as /t2 or some
> such.. maybe.
>   I haven't tried this or experimented with it in the past...
> never
> thought about doing this until just the other day when working at the
>
> "term" on the coco is becoming so painful. With a bad back and the
>
> uncomfortable seating in that room, an alternative would be really nice.
>
> Otherwise, I need to make some serious changes in that room which I call
> the
> "Darkroom" as it was originally set up to be for photo processing. I
> haven't
> done film for over five years now and it looks like that is
> going to be history
> now.
>
>   So... I can still use this PC through a com port on the coco and it is
>
> a lot more comfortable to use it this way.
>   But this idea of switching shells
> from a remote terminal seems like a
> great possibility, if it can be done. I'm
> not thoroughly convinced it is
> possible but what a great thing if it can be
> done!! This would save me a
> lot of foot work and pain.
>   On that coco, I'm
> constantly switching from one window to another
> while working with or even
> developing another process with Basic09.
> Basic09 is my "dream app". With that
> and the hardware I have, anything
> is possible.
>   See my limited information on
> this at
> http://coco.thetinbox.com/CNCCoco.html.
>   That's only ONE example of
> what can be done. Right now, I'm using
> those same ports to monitor old
> mechanical clocks, using switches on the
> clock for reading from the coco. One
> homemade clock is only a pendulum
> right now but the coco is monitoring it for
> accuracy. Eventually it will
> morph into a battery operated, pendulum clock that
> uses the pendulum
> solely for the purpose of controlling the clock
> movement.
>
> Dangit!! The pain pills are starting to do their job now and I'm
>
> beginning to ramble on...
>
> "Looking for less painful ways to do
> things"....
> George R.
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