[Coco] VCC Status …

[Brian Blake]

Guys,

I have no problem putting a note on the forum, main Tandycoco.com page or
the Tandycoco google plus page.

Just let me know if that's what you want done.

Brian

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On Jul 18, 2015 4:16 AM, "Bill Pierce via Coco" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
wrote:

> Aaron, that would be a good idea.... It could be posted here, the FB page
> and Brian's forum. If anyone doesn't protest the release, then do it. We
> both know it was Joseph's intention and for whatever reason, be it real
> life, health or whatever, he never finished the move. I really don't think
> he would have a problem with it at this point if we do the things he wanted
> done, but as you said, if someone else "own's" it, then they would have a
> chance to protest. Personally, in all the forums I've frequented and mail
> lists I've monitored as well as conversations with Joseph himself since Vcc
> was released, I never heard any mention of Joseph "selling" his rights, but
> that doesn't mean he didn't.
>
> I know of several people who expressed interest in converting it to cross
> platform and saying they could do it if they had the sources, even after
> telling them it's current format and state.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 18, 2015 1:21 am
> Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC Status …
>
>
> The issue is more one of whether the person who intended to make it open
> source
> was legally entitled to do so.  If the rights had been sold or
> otherwise
> transferred to someone else that may not be the case.  I believe
> this is what
> Steven was referring to.
>
> I would suggest posting very publicly an intention to
> release the code
> according to the authors wishes as we understand them, and
> waiting a
> reasonable time for someone to protest.
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2015 1:04 AM,
> "James Ross" <jrosslist at outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dave and Bill –
> >
> > W/ both your
> posts we all have a clear picture of the status now! Thanks,
> for the
> information!
> >
> > I can see both of your viewpoints – and I can sympathize w/
> your
> concerns. Yeah... I am not a lawyer either. However, I think it’s
> possible
> to look at this from a different angle:
> >
> > If Joseph Forgione said
> this
> >
> > > now that I know somebody wants to take over on this I'll definatly
> make
> it
> > > open source
> >
> > AND he sent a copy of the source code around the
> same time, then IMO that
> is an official “transaction” right there… he is in
> essence handing you
> control of the software right there. He is making his intent
> known. And as
> part of that intent he is also proclaiming it to be Open Source as
> well.
> >
> > The fact that he did not get around to doing the steps necessary
> himself
> to make that happen does not matter. And since he has disappeared from
> the
> scene, legally, I believe you would be totally in the clear to complete
> his
> (last) wishes. I cannot see how that would not be the case.
> >
> > I wonder if
> a lawyer at OSI would take a look at this (pro bono, fat
> chance?) and write up
> an official opinion on it?
> >
> > Well… No problems guys, I will drop it now.
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 22:39:01
> -0500
> > > From: davidwladd at gmail.com
> > > To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > Subject:
> Re: [Coco] VCC Status …
> > >
> > > ​James,
> > >
> > > The information I last had from
> Joe was back in 2012 on June 20th. He
> said
> > > to me this:
> > > ​
> > > ​
> > > On
> Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe <vcc6809 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes i
> think i do. Going to try to have it up on sourceforge this
> weekend
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> ​Previous reply was this:
> > > ​
> > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Joe
> <vcc6809 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> now that I know somebody wants to take over
> on this I'll definatly
> make it
> > >> open source. From reading the GNU website it
> seems I need to add
> copyrights
> > >> to all the source files, take out the
> copyrighted rom dumps and add
> the GNU
> > >> license file. not to hard but will
> take me a few hours this weekend.
> > >>
> > > Also I belive you are trying to build
> an RS-232 rompack plug-in. If you
> > > like I can take a quick look at doing
> that. It was on my list anyway so
> I
> > > think I have a something started
> already. Again I need to loook for it.
> :)
> > >
> > > Now I never had permission at
> any time to publish the source myself nor
> > > would I even think of it cause
> someone somewhere has to have
> control/rights
> > > even if he did die.​
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ​Now what's funny is the email that I was chatting with him on does
> have a
> > >
> Google+ account connected to it now, but the name on the account does
> not
> > >
> match the name I would expect. The name shows on the Google+ is "Jack
> > >
> Parsons"
> > >
> > > I myself am no lawyer ​and one reason I really didn't want to
> get into
> the
> > > mess of trying to push the code open source since he was going
> to do it
> and
> > > I was never given permission to do so.
> > >
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