[Coco] MESSUI 0.154 with Becker port

Mon Sep 22 12:06:30 EDT 2014

Gillaume,
I will try some tests later when I get the chance.
Note: I am using the 64 bit builds if that matters.
I will test both 32 and 64 bit builds to see if there's a difference.
Keep in mind, I am not just loading a standard becker disk from the repo. These will "boot" fine and seem to run. It's when you actually start "using" it that the problems occur. Try batch copying files, compiling C code or asm, running games. I think then you may see some of the problems arise.
My nitros9 boot is a custom boot that allows me to use both the internal emulator hard drives as well as the dw4 slots (6 VHDs total). I am also using the dual emudsk descriptors for /h0 & /h1 which someone else reported having poblems with.
I use this very same boot system in Vcc/becker with the exception of /h1, since Vcc only allows 1 emudsk drive, and have been using this setup for 4 years keeping the nitros9 system updated to the current build. So it's a stable boot system. I'm currently checking my emudsk driver as there were some problems with that in Mess before the becker patch and I found I had a bad emudsk, but this version is from a working Vcc nitros9 becker boot.
As a note, I am also utilizing the 2 meg memory function in the Mess Coco 3 and my current projects will use the extra memory if available. I don't know how much testing has been done on Mess's 2 meg. Vcc's 2 meg works great. I have 1 meg on my real Coco3, so I can verify most "extra memory" functions on the real thing for comparison,

I will let you know what I find when I get a chance to retest

Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Guillaume Major <gmajor at videotron.ca>
To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] MESSUI 0.154 with Becker port

Hi Bill,

The floppy drives problem with the DRIVE OFF command was present in 
Richard's original patch. But I didn't experience the other problems you are 
having. Can you compare your results with the non GUI version from the Color 
Computer archive? As I compiled both versions myself, I wonder if your 
problems are specific to the MESSUI version.

Guillaume

"Bill Pierce via Coco" <coco at maltedmedia.com> a 
écrit dans le message de 
news:8D1A420DE6DA406-1254-13F49 at webmail-vm161.sysops.aol.com...
>
> Guillaume,
> I'm having quite a few problems with Mess w/becker (gui version).
> First, mixing emudsk with dw drivers in nitros9 seems to screw everything 
> up. I run this type of setup daily in VCC.
> Floppy drives do not work while in HDBDOS (DRIVEOFF)
> Coco 2b shows multiple errors before finally running. Seems like there 
> were others too.
> Several emulations say the roms are wrong.
> the coco3dw1 crashed with me on several occassions, especially while 
> trying to compile C programs in nitros9, I got all kinds of errors on 
> sources that normally compile in Vcc and on my Coco3.
> Several other problems I can't think of at the moment.
> I eventually went back to Vcc where I knew I could work on my projects 
> safely
>
>
> Something is definately not right with the gui build. I had better luck 
> with Richard's original patch, but still had some problems there too.
> For now, I'll stick with Vcc.. it's still the most stable with dw4.
>
>
> Bill Pierce
> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guillaume Major <gmajor at videotron.ca>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sun, Sep 21, 2014 7:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] MESSUI 0.154 with Becker port
>
>
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> I don't know if it's a bug or by design, but now when you mount a 
> cartridge
> in MESS, the floppy drives are disabled and won't come back until you
> reenable them. To reenable the floppy drives, press Scroll Lock to enter 
> the
> partial keyboard emultation mode, then TAB to show up the configuration
> menu. Select Slot Devices, change the "ext" value for "fdcv11" and choose
> Reset.
>
> I successfully booted into Nitros-9 on VCC configured with a 6309 CPU, 
> using
> the Coco 3 6309 Becker port version of Nitros-9. I have no idea what might
> be wrong on your side.
>
> Also, since the introduction of the "Slot Devices" functionality, all 
> banked
> cartridges like Robocop, Predator and Mind Roll don't work anymore. I 
> tried
> selecting the "banked_16K" option in the Slot Devices menu to no avail. 
> Same
> problem with the Orchestra 90-CC. Support for this cart seems to be
> currently broken. When I select "orch90" in the Slot Devices menu and 
> mount
> the Orchestra 90-CC cartridge, MESS stops responding and crashes. If I 
> leave
> the Slot Devices setting to "pak", there is no sound output.
>
> Is anybody else experiencing the same problems with MESS?
>
> Guillaume
>
>
> "Robert Gault" <robert.gault at att.net> a écrit dans le
> message de news:5410585E.3080405 at att.net...
>> Guillaume Major wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> I uploaded Richard's original patch and my patch on the Color Computer
>>> Archive.
>>> You can get them at:
>>>
>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Emulators/MESS/Source/Becker%20port%20patch/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> The patch works for me at rev 32053 but can't compile the ui version 
>> until
>> that private patch gets updated on the release of .155.
>>
>> There are some strange things about the patch for MESS. Do you see this 
>> on
>> your system? With the 154UI version you posted, MESS does not show any
>> floppy drives. Regardless of what is done with the MESS menus, you can't
>> get floppy drives to show or mount images.
>> With my compilation of the MESS command line more recent version, I do
>> have floppies. Also I can run coco2b, coco3, and coco3h with Drivewire. I
>> have not tried other combinations.
>> We need to determine if this is a MESS bug or a Becker Patch bug.
>>
>> There is a major bug with all Drivewire emulator/coco combinations on my
>> system. Do you see this?
>> Start Drivewire4 (current version) with a suitable NitrOS-9 disk mounted
>> in DWdrive0. Start any emulator with the Becker version, MESS, VCC, or
>> real Coco3 with 6309. Boot NitrOS-9, and at the first attempt at DW 
>> access
>> after the welcome message is shown, the emulator/coco will crash and
>> reboot the ROM. Any subsequent attempt to boot NitrOS-9 works normally.
>> You can access Drivewire4 normally (even just after starting it) if you
>> don't use NitrOS-9.
>>
>> I think but am not sure that the crash has something to do with starting
>> the NitrOS-9 clock as when a DW4 clock module is used, the date is not
>> correct until about 1 minute after NitrOS-9 is running.
>>
>> Robert
>>
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