[Coco] 5-1/4″ DS DD 80 track drive, 300 RPM mod

Thu Jul 3 01:19:56 EDT 2014

Drive Wire 4 is amazing!
I'm only scratching it's surface.
The TCP stuff is nice.
Tried to telnet to the coco, on 655006 and 23 ports,
but the client (putty) dies, as soon as trying to connect.

Kandur

Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 9:48:53 PM, you wrote:
> Glad to hear… Welcome to DriveWire.  I have
> found a new renewal on my Coco experience since
> DW4.  I have been playing with TCP
> communications from Coco to internet for various
> protocols (Email, FTP, etc…) we will soon see a POP3 client on Coco.

> Bill Nobel

> On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

>> Found the solution, before seeing your answer. :)
>> I looked at the 'dw.bl' bootlist, and saw the 'X' entries.
>> Thanks anyway.

>> Kandur

>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 9:20:21 PM, you wrote:
>>> For your second question, do you have the /X0
>>> etc and your /d0 etc in your boot?.  I have /x0,
>>> /x1 .. /x4 as well as /d0, /d1 & /d2 for rb1773.
>>> So for copying I usually mount DW /x1 (or disk 1
>>> in DW) to what I want to copy and go to my HD
>>> (/dd) or any other drive.

>>> Bill Nobel

>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

>>>> Bill, I have an HD backup set, made on a Coco-3 running OS_9 L2,
>>>> on 28 floppies, created by the HDKIT archiver/backup program.
>>>> Just want to restore/unpack them to any HD, anywhere.
>>>> Here is one question for you, while running nos-9 L2 dw on the Coco,
>>>> how can I copy a file from a mounted virtual disk on the server?

>>>> Kandur

>>>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 8:17:48 PM, you wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I think I now understand what you are
>>>>> trying to do, been kinda watching the thread.  I
>>>>> assume you have the restore program for you
>>>>> backup under your boot with DriveWire?  If so I
>>>>> ended up using winimg under Mess to move the
>>>>> disks to virtuals from my PC zipped archive,
>>>>> then moved them to DriveWire disks. Then I used
>>>>> the restore program on the DriveWire drive to virtual HD.

>>>>> Bill Nobel

>>>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

>>>>>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 4:43:36 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Kandur wrote:
>>>>>>>> Many thanks Robert, you saved me a huge amount of wild goose chase.
>>>>>>>> My goal is to restore a 1989 scsi hard drive backup set on  floppies to an
>>>>>>>> actual scsi hard drive, connected to the Coco-3.

>>>>>>> You will need to indicate what was on the SCSI drive and how that was
>>>>>>> transferred to floppies. For example, if the
>>>>>>> hard drive was formatted so that 
>>>>>>> the first part was OS-9 and the second part was
>>>>>>> multiple 35-track Basic 
>>>>>>> floppies, that is a Ken-Ton RGBDOS system and it won't be a problem.
>>>>>>> If the the original hard drive had some other
>>>>>>> format, then you will probably 
>>>>>>> need to copy files rather than using a Backup command.

>>>>>> There could be a bit of misunderstanding regarding the HD restore.
>>>>>> Don't really care where to restore the backup, as long as 
>>>>>> the files can be accessed and I can copy them somewhere. 
>>>>>>> You need to be specific about what your system
>>>>>>> was and what you want your new 
>>>>>>> system to be. This group can't provide help in a vacuum.

>>>>>> The system consisted of a Coco-3, MPU, J&M FD and Owl Ware HD controllers.
>>>>>> 2x5.25" DS DD 80T 300rpm floppy drives and 2x100MB CDC Wren SCSI HDs, 
>>>>>> running OS-9 L2. Can't remember, how was the HD formatted.
>>>>>>>> I have the original
>>>>>>>> controllers for this. DW was new to me and a pleasant surprise.
>>>>>>>> I made a copy of one of my backup diskettes to a wd4 virtual floppy,
>>>>>>>> using hdb-dos, but have no way to confirm that, if it is good or not.
>>>>>>> Again where is the detail? What format did you
>>>>>>> use for the DW4 virtual floppy? 
>>>>>>> Did you copy files or use a backup command? Was
>>>>>>> it a Basic or OS-9 transfer?

>>>>>> Just followed these instructions:
>>>>>> "An example, to copy a disk from the CoCo to the PC:
>>>>>> Step 1. Mount a blank .dsk image in Drive 0 of the server on your PC .
>>>>>> Step 2. Type DRIVE#0 to switch to the virtual drive 0 (this is the default).
>>>>>> Step 3. Type DRIVE OFF 0 to turn off virtual disk 0 on drive 0 and turn on 
>>>>>>     floppy drive 0 connected to your CoCo.
>>>>>> Step 4. Insert your floppy into the CoCo's floppy disk drive 0 and type BACKUP 0 TO 1
>>>>>> The DriveWire and HDB-DOS will then transfer the contents of the real floppy 
>>>>>> to the virtual disk 1 in the drive 0 slot."
>>>>>>>> It still eludes me, how to copy  wd4 virtual floppies to a real floppies
>>>>>>>> or to a hard drive drive on the Coco, running nos-9. Is it possible at all?
>>>>>>> Of course it is possible. However, we can't
>>>>>>> answer hypothetical questions. Post 
>>>>>>> a specific question with details of all disks
>>>>>>> and files, virtual and real, if 
>>>>>>> you want an answer.

>>>>>> Come to think of it, I don't need that for the restoration.
>>>>>>>> Unless I get hold of a headless version of nos-9 L2 floppy or dw image,
>>>>>>>> where the console defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud, can't use Dsave,
>>>>>>>> due to my 128k ram limitation. I tried it. My last resort is to buy a
>>>>>>>> $50 + shipping 512k ram upgrade for my 'like new' $45 Coco-3.
>>>>>>>> Kandur
>>>>>>> You are severely handicapped because of the
>>>>>>> small amount of memory on the Coco3. 
>>>>>>> However, that should not prevent transferring
>>>>>>> the contents of a DW4 virtual disk 
>>>>>>> to a real floppy on the Coco.
>>>>>>> It will make it very difficult to run NitrOS-9 on the Coco3 system.

>>>>>> You are absolutely right, I can't even edit the boot list, run scripts,
>>>>>> make a new boot disk, change descriptors, etc. with all those modules
>>>>>> in the stock repo disk images. That's why I need a stripped down,
>>>>>> no graphics, sound, joysticks, etc. L2 boot disk, where the console 
>>>>>> defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud terminal. I made one of this, way back when,
>>>>>> worked great with my stock 128k Coco-3.
>>>>>>> Robert

>>>>>> Kandur

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