[Coco] 5-1/4″ DS DD 80 track drive, 300 RPM mod

[Bill Nobel]

Glad to hear… Welcome to DriveWire.  I have found a new renewal on my Coco experience since DW4.  I have been playing with TCP communications from Coco to internet for various protocols (Email, FTP, etc…) we will soon see a POP3 client on Coco.

Bill Nobel

On Jul 2, 2014, at 10:33 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

> Found the solution, before seeing your answer. :)
> I looked at the 'dw.bl' bootlist, and saw the 'X' entries.
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Kandur
> 
> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 9:20:21 PM, you wrote:
>> For your second question, do you have the /X0
>> etc and your /d0 etc in your boot?.  I have /x0,
>> /x1 .. /x4 as well as /d0, /d1 & /d2 for rb1773.
>> So for copying I usually mount DW /x1 (or disk 1
>> in DW) to what I want to copy and go to my HD
>> (/dd) or any other drive.
> 
>> Bill Nobel
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:
> 
>>> Bill, I have an HD backup set, made on a Coco-3 running OS_9 L2,
>>> on 28 floppies, created by the HDKIT archiver/backup program.
>>> Just want to restore/unpack them to any HD, anywhere.
>>> Here is one question for you, while running nos-9 L2 dw on the Coco,
>>> how can I copy a file from a mounted virtual disk on the server?
> 
>>> Kandur
> 
>>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 8:17:48 PM, you wrote:
>>>> Ok, I think I now understand what you are
>>>> trying to do, been kinda watching the thread.  I
>>>> assume you have the restore program for you
>>>> backup under your boot with DriveWire?  If so I
>>>> ended up using winimg under Mess to move the
>>>> disks to virtuals from my PC zipped archive,
>>>> then moved them to DriveWire disks. Then I used
>>>> the restore program on the DriveWire drive to virtual HD.
> 
>>>> Bill Nobel
> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 4:43:36 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>> Kandur wrote:
>>>>>>> Many thanks Robert, you saved me a huge amount of wild goose chase.
>>>>>>> My goal is to restore a 1989 scsi hard drive backup set on  floppies to an
>>>>>>> actual scsi hard drive, connected to the Coco-3.
> 
>>>>>> You will need to indicate what was on the SCSI drive and how that was
>>>>>> transferred to floppies. For example, if the
>>>>>> hard drive was formatted so that 
>>>>>> the first part was OS-9 and the second part was
>>>>>> multiple 35-track Basic 
>>>>>> floppies, that is a Ken-Ton RGBDOS system and it won't be a problem.
>>>>>> If the the original hard drive had some other
>>>>>> format, then you will probably 
>>>>>> need to copy files rather than using a Backup command.
> 
>>>>> There could be a bit of misunderstanding regarding the HD restore.
>>>>> Don't really care where to restore the backup, as long as 
>>>>> the files can be accessed and I can copy them somewhere. 
>>>>>> You need to be specific about what your system
>>>>>> was and what you want your new 
>>>>>> system to be. This group can't provide help in a vacuum.
> 
>>>>> The system consisted of a Coco-3, MPU, J&M FD and Owl Ware HD controllers.
>>>>> 2x5.25" DS DD 80T 300rpm floppy drives and 2x100MB CDC Wren SCSI HDs, 
>>>>> running OS-9 L2. Can't remember, how was the HD formatted.
>>>>>>> I have the original
>>>>>>> controllers for this. DW was new to me and a pleasant surprise.
>>>>>>> I made a copy of one of my backup diskettes to a wd4 virtual floppy,
>>>>>>> using hdb-dos, but have no way to confirm that, if it is good or not.
>>>>>> Again where is the detail? What format did you
>>>>>> use for the DW4 virtual floppy? 
>>>>>> Did you copy files or use a backup command? Was
>>>>>> it a Basic or OS-9 transfer?
> 
>>>>> Just followed these instructions:
>>>>> "An example, to copy a disk from the CoCo to the PC:
>>>>> Step 1. Mount a blank .dsk image in Drive 0 of the server on your PC .
>>>>> Step 2. Type DRIVE#0 to switch to the virtual drive 0 (this is the default).
>>>>> Step 3. Type DRIVE OFF 0 to turn off virtual disk 0 on drive 0 and turn on 
>>>>>     floppy drive 0 connected to your CoCo.
>>>>> Step 4. Insert your floppy into the CoCo's floppy disk drive 0 and type BACKUP 0 TO 1
>>>>> The DriveWire and HDB-DOS will then transfer the contents of the real floppy 
>>>>> to the virtual disk 1 in the drive 0 slot."
>>>>>>> It still eludes me, how to copy  wd4 virtual floppies to a real floppies
>>>>>>> or to a hard drive drive on the Coco, running nos-9. Is it possible at all?
>>>>>> Of course it is possible. However, we can't
>>>>>> answer hypothetical questions. Post 
>>>>>> a specific question with details of all disks
>>>>>> and files, virtual and real, if 
>>>>>> you want an answer.
> 
>>>>> Come to think of it, I don't need that for the restoration.
>>>>>>> Unless I get hold of a headless version of nos-9 L2 floppy or dw image,
>>>>>>> where the console defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud, can't use Dsave,
>>>>>>> due to my 128k ram limitation. I tried it. My last resort is to buy a
>>>>>>> $50 + shipping 512k ram upgrade for my 'like new' $45 Coco-3.
>>>>>>> Kandur
>>>>>> You are severely handicapped because of the
>>>>>> small amount of memory on the Coco3. 
>>>>>> However, that should not prevent transferring
>>>>>> the contents of a DW4 virtual disk 
>>>>>> to a real floppy on the Coco.
>>>>>> It will make it very difficult to run NitrOS-9 on the Coco3 system.
> 
>>>>> You are absolutely right, I can't even edit the boot list, run scripts,
>>>>> make a new boot disk, change descriptors, etc. with all those modules
>>>>> in the stock repo disk images. That's why I need a stripped down,
>>>>> no graphics, sound, joysticks, etc. L2 boot disk, where the console 
>>>>> defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud terminal. I made one of this, way back when,
>>>>> worked great with my stock 128k Coco-3.
>>>>>> Robert
> 
>>>>> Kandur
> 
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