[Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

[Bob Devries]

All I get is the actual coco screen. No menu bar, no pull-downs. I get the 
usual blue (on my laptop) window surround from Windows. This means I can't 
select devices etc. while running the emulation.

Regards, Bob Devries

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native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Campbell" <asa.rand at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC


>I don't know what is happening there, Bob. I installed 136. I'm not sure 
>which menus you are describing. The menubar and toolbar are both displayed 
>in the emulator window. The menu lists while running the emulator are 
>there. Checking Use newui doesn't seem to do anything on my laptop.
>
> Wayne
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>
>
>> And... even with "use new UI" ticked, still no menus. :(
>>
>> --
>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>> one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>
>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>
>>
>> wait.. did you want the menus?  check the box if so.  the menus are
>> the "New GUI".
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> "Use New GUI" is NOT ticked. :(
>>>
>>> --
>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>>> one's
>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>
>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>
>>>
>>> Look in Miscellaneous, "Use New UI". The new UI is what provides the
>>> menus, probably not checked.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> When I start a MESS emulation (Coco3 NTSC), it starts up the Coco in
>>>> window.
>>>> I lose the mouse pointer, but ALT-TAB does bring that back, albeit 
>>>> leaving
>>>> an @ character on the coco screen :)
>>>>
>>>> In Default Game Properties, Controllers Tab, the option 'Enable mouse
>>>> input'
>>>> is unticked.
>>>> In 'controller mapping' the mouse device points to the Mouse.
>>>>
>>>> As per Robert Gault's suggestion, Sleep when possible and 
>>>> Multi-threaded
>>>> rendering are ticked.
>>>>
>>>> I get no menu bar in version 0.136B, but I do in Version 0.110. Is that
>>>> correct? Did they remove the menus in this version?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Bob Devries
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>>>> one's
>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>>
>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Besides not being able to use mouse or exit, does the emulator run,
>>>>> i.e. do you see a Coco?
>>>>>
>>>>> This sort of happens in a default configuration I think..Try ALT-Tab
>>>>> to switch away. The mouse problem can normally be solved by telling
>>>>> MESS not to use the mouse: if you're using MESSUI then go into
>>>>> properties for the system and under Controllers, uncheck "Enable mouse
>>>>> input". Also check that mouse is not selected for any of the inputs
>>>>> on the Controller Mapping page (other than Mouse device).
>>>>>
>>>>> Video problems can be worked out usually on the Display page. "Run in
>>>>> a window" and unchecking "Start out maximized" might make a
>>>>> difference. The various Videomode settings also might give better
>>>>> results (or worse).
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the best things about MESS is the huge number of options
>>>>> available, but this can also be a problem when you aren't familiar
>>>>> with what they do. I'd bet you can solve some or all of the issues
>>>>> you have by tweaking things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck, let us know how it goes and maybe we can figure out any
>>>>> remaining issues.
>>>>> -Aaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, it was me who can't run MESS on his laptop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked the settings you mentioned, Robert, but there's no 
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I start the emulation, I lose my mouse pointer altogether, and 
>>>>>> MESS
>>>>>> does not respond to *any* Function-keys at all. The only way to quit 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> emulations is the three finger slaute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315. It has an Intel Celeron 550
>>>>>> processor
>>>>>> @
>>>>>> 2GHz and 1GB memory, running WinXP SP2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
>>>>>> one's
>>>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gault"
>>>>>> <robert.gault at worldnet.att.net>
>>>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been using MESS on my laptop because I can't get VCC to run 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> it. The biggest problem I see with MESS is lack of information on 
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> configure it for a given system, when you know nothing about what
>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>> to be set, or how.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It makes my laptop run warm, and there is visible hesitation in 
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> apps, no matter what they are. I have looked through the
>>>>>>>> documentation,
>>>>>>>> and if you are experienced enough in all of the areas concerned to
>>>>>>>> understand it, you can configure it. Otherwise, you cannot. It 
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> nice if someone could come up with a configuration tutorial that
>>>>>>>> walked
>>>>>>>> the novice through the process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you gone through the on screen Help available with MESS? There 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> specific instructions that ought to help with your laptop. Look at 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> try:
>>>>>>> sleep when possible, multi-thread rendering, thread priority.
>>>>>>> These are all adjustable and should reduce the amount of CPU time
>>>>>>> allocated to MESS.
>>>>>>>
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