[Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

Wed Jan 20 21:21:00 EST 2010

I don't know what is happening there, Bob. I installed 136. I'm not sure 
which menus you are describing. The menubar and toolbar are both displayed 
in the emulator window. The menu lists while running the emulator are there. 
Checking Use newui doesn't seem to do anything on my laptop.

Wayne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

> And... even with "use new UI" ticked, still no menus. :(
>
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>
>
> wait.. did you want the menus?  check the box if so.  the menus are
> the "New GUI".
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> "Use New GUI" is NOT ticked. :(
>>
>> --
>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>> one's
>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>
>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>
>>
>> Look in Miscellaneous, "Use New UI". The new UI is what provides the
>> menus, probably not checked.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> When I start a MESS emulation (Coco3 NTSC), it starts up the Coco in
>>> window.
>>> I lose the mouse pointer, but ALT-TAB does bring that back, albeit 
>>> leaving
>>> an @ character on the coco screen :)
>>>
>>> In Default Game Properties, Controllers Tab, the option 'Enable mouse
>>> input'
>>> is unticked.
>>> In 'controller mapping' the mouse device points to the Mouse.
>>>
>>> As per Robert Gault's suggestion, Sleep when possible and Multi-threaded
>>> rendering are ticked.
>>>
>>> I get no menu bar in version 0.136B, but I do in Version 0.110. Is that
>>> correct? Did they remove the menus in this version?
>>>
>>> Regards, Bob Devries
>>>
>>> --
>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>>> one's
>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>
>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>
>>>
>>>> Besides not being able to use mouse or exit, does the emulator run,
>>>> i.e. do you see a Coco?
>>>>
>>>> This sort of happens in a default configuration I think..Try ALT-Tab
>>>> to switch away. The mouse problem can normally be solved by telling
>>>> MESS not to use the mouse: if you're using MESSUI then go into
>>>> properties for the system and under Controllers, uncheck "Enable mouse
>>>> input". Also check that mouse is not selected for any of the inputs
>>>> on the Controller Mapping page (other than Mouse device).
>>>>
>>>> Video problems can be worked out usually on the Display page. "Run in
>>>> a window" and unchecking "Start out maximized" might make a
>>>> difference. The various Videomode settings also might give better
>>>> results (or worse).
>>>>
>>>> One of the best things about MESS is the huge number of options
>>>> available, but this can also be a problem when you aren't familiar
>>>> with what they do. I'd bet you can solve some or all of the issues
>>>> you have by tweaking things.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck, let us know how it goes and maybe we can figure out any
>>>> remaining issues.
>>>> -Aaron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it was me who can't run MESS on his laptop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I checked the settings you mentioned, Robert, but there's no 
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I start the emulation, I lose my mouse pointer altogether, and 
>>>>> MESS
>>>>> does not respond to *any* Function-keys at all. The only way to quit 
>>>>> the
>>>>> emulations is the three finger slaute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).
>>>>>
>>>>> This laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315. It has an Intel Celeron 550
>>>>> processor
>>>>> @
>>>>> 2GHz and 1GB memory, running WinXP SP2.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
>>>>> one's
>>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gault"
>>>>> <robert.gault at worldnet.att.net>
>>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:27 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using MESS on my laptop because I can't get VCC to run 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> it. The biggest problem I see with MESS is lack of information on 
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> configure it for a given system, when you know nothing about what
>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>> to be set, or how.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It makes my laptop run warm, and there is visible hesitation in 
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> apps, no matter what they are. I have looked through the
>>>>>>> documentation,
>>>>>>> and if you are experienced enough in all of the areas concerned to
>>>>>>> understand it, you can configure it. Otherwise, you cannot. It would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> nice if someone could come up with a configuration tutorial that
>>>>>>> walked
>>>>>>> the novice through the process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you gone through the on screen Help available with MESS? There 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> specific instructions that ought to help with your laptop. Look at 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> try:
>>>>>> sleep when possible, multi-thread rendering, thread priority.
>>>>>> These are all adjustable and should reduce the amount of CPU time
>>>>>> allocated to MESS.
>>>>>>
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