[arg_discuss] arg list

[Brian Clark]

Don't get me started on the arbitrary 2001 start date of the genre category
as well, Wendy. I think "Jonny Mnemonic" and "The Rift" for SGI in 1997 meet
all the tests of most definitions of ARG but fail only because the violate
the premise that "it all started with The Beast". Similar argument can be
made The Blair Witch Project online. 

Who Is Benjamin Stove doesn't need Haxan in the authorship, and I think Mike
prefers Campfire instead of Haxan.

39 Clues is an interesting addition, seems like another potential edge
definer ... ARG? ARE? How so?

Missing a tremendous number of beloved indie projects along that chain as
well.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:09 PM
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Well, I decided not to add the projects I've been involved in, because
although I call them ARGs, nobody else can agree on what to call them.
They resemble the Lost Experience and Regenesis the most, I suppose.

But they happened prior to 2001, and it seemed inappropriate to put
them first on this list ordered by date.

What agony this kind of list-building is!

Wendy Despain
quantumcontent.com


On Fri, April 3, 2009 9:03 am, Brian Clark wrote:

>>I don't know, and it's probably a matter of semantics, whether

>>you want to distinguish "ARG" from "ARE".

>

> We've done such a great job of answering the "what is an ARG" question

> that

> we're totally qualified to add "what is an ARE" and "how is an ARE

> different

> than ARG" to the pile.

>

> My personal opinion, we lack an umbrella term. Makes it hard for me

> parse

> out meaning in statements like:

>

>> one could argue "games" like Cloverfield were AREs as well

>

> I think that starts to overextend the ARE label as I understand it.

> There

> was the "hope by the fans" of an E at the end of the AR (which in this

> case

> was just F.)

>

> But I can imagine some umbrella that would contain it.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org

> [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On

> Behalf Of David Flor

> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:54 AM

> To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG

> Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] arg list

>

> Added the ones I was involved with or are directly familiar with

> (White Island, for example), as well as went through and edited some

> that I was very familiar with as a player.

>

> I don't know, and it's probably a matter of semantics, whether you

> want to distinguish "ARG" from "ARE". The Lost Experience was

> self-labeled as an "ARE", and one could argue "games" like Cloverfield

> were AREs as well.

>

> And do you want to list ARGs that have been announced but not launched

> yet, such as our own "Rachel's Walk"?

>

> Tnx & Rgds...

> David Flor

> Darklight Interactive

> "Omne ignotum pro magnifico"

>

> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:04 AM,  <marcus.helm at gmail.com> wrote:

>> I've shared a document with you called "arg list":

>>

>

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pE0znztln2kmQruQyplrzeA&inv=arg_discu

> ss at igda.org

>>

>> It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open

>> this

>> document, just click the link above.

>>

>> As mentioned earlier this week, I have begun compiling spreadsheet

>> of

>> ARG's towards getting a listing of the all the brands that have

>> worked

>> with ARGs as well as a listing of independent ARG's for ARGology.

>> Its attached here as an Excel spreadsheet and is very much in the

>> draft

>> stage.

>>

>>

>> I urge one and all to cast an eye over it, correct mistakes and fill

>> any missing info including the many games that I appologise for not

>> including already. Im also open to persuasion about what

>> constituties

>> and ARG as there are likely to be some contentious inclusions.

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Wendy Despain
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