[arg_discuss] ARGology - ARG Antecedents section

[Christy Dena]

I know! Well...I've actually done that before on this list. :/


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From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Chrest
Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 19:21
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Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] ARGology - ARG Antecedents section

Hehehe goober :)

Good thing you didn't say anything nsls. (Not safe for list serve)

Jason Chrest
Aporia Cross-Media Entertainment
www.aporiacme.com
jason at aporiacme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: "Christy Dena" <cdena at cross-mediaentertainment.com>

Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 19:13:29 
To:"'Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG'" <arg_discuss at igda.org>
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] ARGology - ARG Antecedents section



Doh! Meant to be to Bryan. ;p

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From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Christy Dena
Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 19:12
To: 'Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG'
Subject: [arg_discuss] ARGology - ARG Antecedents section

Hey Bryan!

I understand that you won't be able to pounce until mid June, but thought
I'd touch base with you in the meantime. Or even perhaps you could link to
your antecedent posts as a start? I'm also thinking it is important to reach
out to others who are working, or interested in working on antecedents. If
my memory serves me, Brian Clarke was working on an essay about antecedents
a while ago.

And then I guess the question is, what do people want? Ongoing articles on
the site or links to elsewhere? Forum discussions? Whatever you think works
best.

Over to you!

Let me know if you have any questions of course.

Thanks and congrats!

Best,
Christy

-----Original Message-----
From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Alexander
Sent: Saturday, 26 April 2008 06:30
To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

ARGology is fun.  ARGosy, anyone?

This is a good idea, and I'd like to volunteer some time.  May and the
first half of June are crazy (check my Dopplr), but I can follow along,
then pounce.

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From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org]
On Behalf Of Andrea Phillips
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

Ooh, I really like argology.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM, varin <varineq at gmail.com> wrote:

> hehe, just did a quick search for names on nameboy.com

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>  argnology.com and argology.com are available - I'm surprised someone

>  hasn't taken those yet!

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>  Michelle Senderhauf

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>  On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM,  <libfli at aol.com> wrote:

>  > i agree.  this is a really great idea!  i would also be willing to

give some time.

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>  >

>  >  (and yeah, let's pitch out some other ideas for the addy)

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>  >  maybe "argsrus.com" :)

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>  >  From: varin <varineq at gmail.com>

>  >  To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG <arg_discuss at igda.org>

>  >  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 9:26 am

>  >  Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

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>  >  I think a website like this is a good idea. It would be nice to be

>  >  able to have some control over the organization of information.

I'd

>  >  be willing to help out, just let me know when things get rolling.

>  >

>  >  oh, but www.IGDAARGSIG.org might be a little hard to remember ;P

>  >

>  >  Michelle Senderhauf

>  >

>  >  On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Christy Dena

>  >  <cdena at cross-mediaentertainment.com> wrote:

>  >  > Hey everyone,

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>  >  >  Just a thought about a possible way forward for the ARG SIG.

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>  >  >

>  >  >  I, like many others on this list, would love to see ARGs as

they are better

>  >  >  understood, as well as see ARGs develop in ways unimagined. One

of the

>  >  >  continuing issues we've all spoken about many times on this

list and

>  >  >  elsewhere, are public descriptions of ARGs, the wikipedia

entry, ARG SIG

>  >  >  blog, ARG SIG whitepaper and so on. There has been some

criticism (from

>  >  >  within and outside of the ARG community) of the whitepaper and

wikipedia

>  >  >  entry - two high profile sources of information about ARGs.

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  It seems to me that the reason both of these sources fail in

some regards is

>  >  >  in their inappropriately comprehensive nature. In other words,

the

>  >  >  whitepaper and wikipedia entry are trying to be too many

things. What is

>  >  >  great about the whitepaper is that it brings together the

various interests

>  >  >  and expertise of this ARG SIG. It is in some ways a mission

statement for

>  >  >  all the possible initiatives the ARG SIG can achieve:

descriptions of ARGs,

>  >  >  antecedents of ARGs, history of ARGs, types of ARGs, ARG design

techniques,

>  >  >  economic models, ARGs in education & training, ARG research and

so on. We

>  >  >  just need to address these separately, in the right place(s).

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  It seems too that the ARG SIG blog and wikipedia have other

obstacles too -

>  >  >  including lack of control over design and content (the

wikipedia entry is

>  >  >  riddled with vanity spam). What if we got our own URL, like

>  >  >  www.IGDAARGSIG.org or whatever, and created our own

quality-controlled

>  >  >  portal?

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  I'm thinking of a site that provides descriptions on ARGs for

artists,

>  >  >  producers and the press; has links to ARG resources &

information on design

>  >  >  & economic modes as well as a much needed listing of the all

the developers

>  >  >  working in the area. Examples of related sites on design are

IPerG

>  >  >  (Integrated Project on Pervasive Gaming) website:

http://www.iperg.org/ and

>  >  >  Gamasutra: http://www.gamasutra.com <http://www.gamasutra.com/>

and what

>  >  >  about Play Finland: http://www.playfinland.fi/ as an example of

a portal

>  >  >  that promotes developers & their games? Also, considering many

people have

>  >  >  important resources on their own sites, it would beneficial to

provide links

>  >  >  to sites rather than insisting all info be housed in the one

place, and

>  >  >  anonymously.

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>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  Irrespective of whether a new portal is a way forward, another

issue is

>  >  >  getting initiatives happening. I want to see more articles

about design for

>  >  >  instance! It seems that asking people to volunteer to do things

hasn't

>  >  >  worked so well in the past. What about a Driver & Poke model?

Yes, I just

>  >  >  made that up. People volunteer to be Drivers of certain

initiative (and

>  >  >  rotate amongst each other so no single person is doing it the

whole time).

>  >  >  Those Drivers call for volunteers to do things but also

directly Poke, or

>  >  >  request an article or something from people they feel will

provide a helpful

>  >  >  contribution?

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>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  And then information such as the history, design techniques and

research

>  >  >  into ARGs can be encouraged and find their proper home, and the

whitepaper

>  >  >  and wiki entry can go back to doing their job.

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>  >  >

>  >  >

>  >  >  Over to youse all to add ideas, alter ideas or blow

raspberries. :-)

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>  >  >

>  >  >  Best,

>  >  >

>  >  >  Christy

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