[Herb-students] Ren Shen Bai Du San

[Al Stone]

Okay, I talked to my man today, though I wasn't too terribly moved by
his answer.

His first answer was that the high fever and extreme chills are not the
most important diagnostic point for this formula's use. Rather the
wind-cold symptoms along with the pale or flabby tongue indicating a Qi deficiency.

I asked him how a high fever could arise with Qi deficiency and he said
that it likely won't really be that high.  Not really the best answer,
but the only one that I got.

Fernando Bernall wrote:
> 
> Al,
> 
> I still wonder about the high fever with no sweating in light that this rx is for an
> exterior pattern with underlying deficiency as Stephanie has pointed out. Could there
> be a mistake?
> 
> Fernando
> 
> Al Stone wrote:
> 
> > > Stephanie Duggins wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does anyone  know why the symptomatology for this formula would
> > > > include a high fever? It is a formula for releasing the exterior
> > > > with a pre-existing qi vacuity. Thanks in advance for any insights.
> >
> > Fernando Bernall wrote:
> >
> > > Perhaps the fact that this formula was originally used to treat
> > > children, may account for the high fever.
> >
> > According to one source (namely the book on formulas that one of my
> > teachers and I created) this formula was in fact originally designed for
> > children who's upright qi was not yet fully develped.
> >
> > Here are some other fun factz about this formula's inclusion of Ren Shen...
> >
> > 1) For children as mentioned above.
> > 2) Ren Shen tonifies the wei qi to prevent further invasion of exogenous
> > factors (apparently not necessarily the gui zhi tang syndrome of partial sweating)
> > 3) Ren Shen nourishes the yin which supports the production of sweat
> > 4) Ren Shen protects against damage to the Yuan source qi as a result of
> > the sweating as mentioned above.
> >
> > -al.
> >
> > --
> > Al Stone L.Ac.
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Al Stone L.Ac.
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