From pmccusker at verizon.net Thu Nov 13 08:49:38 2003 From: pmccusker at verizon.net (pmccusker@verizon.net) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) Message-ID: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Hi - I am a software developer who is working on a project to export the data from a papyrus database into a relational database. DOes anyone have a file description or database definition for the papyrus database? Thanks, Patrick McCusker From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Thu Nov 13 10:42:21 2003 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizo n.net> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031113094119.0274aa00@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> You can define your own output format. The most complete is presumably the "papx" output format, which is used to exchange data between Papyrus databases. -john rodgers At 07:49 AM 11/13/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Hi - > >I am a software developer who is working on a project to export the data >from a papyrus database into a relational database. DOes anyone have a >file description or database definition for the papyrus database? > >Thanks, > >Patrick McCusker > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list >Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l John R. Rodgers, PhD. Assistant Professor, Department of Immunology M929 Baylor College of Medicine One Baylor Plaza Houston, Texas 77030 From rr25 at cam.ac.uk Thu Nov 13 10:51:33 2003 From: rr25 at cam.ac.uk (rr25@cam.ac.uk) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> References: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net > Message-ID: <2147483647.1068738693@macllcc02.sidg.pwf.cam.ac.uk> You might find the page helpful. This is about ways of importing various database formats into endnote, but the conversion tools provided for Papyrus are in fact Papyrus formats designed to allow the papyrus database to be exported in refer/bibIX format. Of course you need to have a functional copy of the Papyrus program to make use of it. --On Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:49 am -0600 pmccusker@verizon.net wrote: > Hi - > > I am a software developer who is working on a project to export the data > from a papyrus database into a relational database. DOes anyone have a > file description or database definition for the papyrus database? > > Thanks, > > Patrick McCusker > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l From grammatim at worldnet.att.net Thu Nov 13 18:37:07 2003 From: grammatim at worldnet.att.net (Peter T. Daniels) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) References: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net > <2147483647.1068738693@macllcc02.sidg.pwf.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3FB415A2.5509@worldnet.att.net> It's nice to see that Papyrus isn't totally defunct and people still use it. I keep meaning to work up a classical CD collection scheme using Papyrus (or has anyone already done so?). -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@att.net From jan.herrmann at cetacea.de Fri Nov 14 18:40:03 2003 From: jan.herrmann at cetacea.de (Jan Herrmann) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> References: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: Dear Papyrus for Macintosh users, I think the trouble Patrick would be having with export formats instead of the real database file is, that all export formats are having some limits. PAPX is compatible to Papyrus 7, but new fields (URL etc.) aren't supported Same is true regarding to the Endnote exporter. Same trouble would be with user defined fields. My "Article in Journal" for example now carries a DOI field which seems to be of growing importance. One of the strengths of Papyrus for Macintosh is its versatility. You can define numerous own fields or reference types. To export a certain database file I think it's best to create an individual export format considering all used reference types and fields to transfer the data into a new home. This appears manageable to me. If you want to create a way to offer Papyrus users to easily switch to another application you would need to know the database format. I think this is a very tough task since Papyrus is so complex. The creator of Papyrus, Dave Goldman, might be of help here. It would be very interesting to know for which aim Patrick wants to use a Papyrus database file? And by the way I am still using Papyrus for Macintosh - now in the classic environment under Panther . on a daily basis. It works great. But not knowing how long Apple is supporting the classic environment I would love to see a real OS X version of Papyrus, because I still think that Papyrus is way ahead of competitors in so many tasks of reference managing. - Jan >I am a software developer who is working on a project to export the >data from a papyrus database into a relational database. DOes >anyone have a file description or database definition for the >papyrus database? >You can define your own output format. The most complete is >presumably the "papx" output format, which is used to exchange data >between Papyrus databases. > -john rodgers -- Jan Herrmann jan.herrmann -at- cetacea.de Brentanostr. 16 30625 Hannover Tel: 0511-855500 Germany Fax: 0721-151-503127 Vorlesungsreihe Wal und Mensch +----> http://www.cetacea.de From bogkvam at online.no Sat Nov 15 10:56:32 2003 From: bogkvam at online.no (Bjørn Olav Grüner Kvam) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <20031113134938.HBYM1413.out006.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: > >But not knowing how long Apple is supporting the classic environment >I would love to see a real OS X version of Papyrus, because I still >think that Papyrus is way ahead of competitors in so many tasks of >reference managing. > >- Jan Hear, hear! Bj?rn Olav -- _______________________________________________ Bj?rn Olav Gr?ner Kvam Forskningsstipendiat / Research Scholar E-mail: bogkvam@online.no _______________________________________________ From pmccusker at verizon.net Mon Nov 17 15:27:25 2003 From: pmccusker at verizon.net (pmccusker@verizon.net) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) Message-ID: <20031117202725.DUDY910.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> I have a client who is a Papyrus user who is very concerned with the news that the classic environment may no longer be supported in future OS releases from Apple. This would tie a Papyrus user to working with earlier versions of the Apple OS and very soon put users in a position of being on an unsupported OS in order to run a well written application. My goal is to analyze the file structure to see if there is a way to import it into a relational database product. If that is possible, it would be straightforward to build an application that would replicate the functionality provided by Papyrus.] Has there ever been a discussion about open sourcing Papyrus? Thanks, Patrick > > From: Jan Herrmann > Date: 2003/11/14 Fri PM 05:40:03 CST > To: papyrus-mac-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > Subject: Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) > > Dear Papyrus for Macintosh users, > > I think the trouble Patrick would be having with export formats > instead of the real database file is, that all export formats are > having some limits. > > PAPX is compatible to Papyrus 7, but new fields (URL etc.) aren't supported > Same is true regarding to the Endnote exporter. > Same trouble would be with user defined fields. My "Article in > Journal" for example now carries a DOI field which seems to be of > growing importance. > > One of the strengths of Papyrus for Macintosh is its versatility. You > can define numerous own fields or reference types. To export a > certain database file I think it's best to create an individual > export format considering all used reference types and fields to > transfer the data into a new home. This appears manageable to me. > > If you want to create a way to offer Papyrus users to easily switch > to another application you would need to know the database format. I > think this is a very tough task since Papyrus is so complex. The > creator of Papyrus, Dave Goldman, might be of help here. > > It would be very interesting to know for which aim Patrick wants to > use a Papyrus database file? > > And by the way I am still using Papyrus for Macintosh - now in the > classic environment under Panther . on a daily basis. It works great. > But not knowing how long Apple is supporting the classic environment > I would love to see a real OS X version of Papyrus, because I still > think that Papyrus is way ahead of competitors in so many tasks of > reference managing. > > - Jan > > >I am a software developer who is working on a project to export the > >data from a papyrus database into a relational database. DOes > >anyone have a file description or database definition for the > >papyrus database? > > >You can define your own output format. The most complete is > >presumably the "papx" output format, which is used to exchange data > >between Papyrus databases. > > -john rodgers > > > -- > > Jan Herrmann jan.herrmann -at- cetacea.de > Brentanostr. 16 > 30625 Hannover Tel: 0511-855500 > Germany Fax: 0721-151-503127 > > Vorlesungsreihe Wal und Mensch > +----> http://www.cetacea.de > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l > From jjcrump at u.washington.edu Mon Nov 17 20:00:54 2003 From: jjcrump at u.washington.edu (Jon Crump) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20031117202725.DUDY910.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> References: <20031117202725.DUDY910.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: Dear List in general and Patrick McCusker in particular, I'm astonished and heartened to detect activity on this list after all this time. I too still use papyrus in the classic environment for the simple reason that when it was orphaned, it stood head and shoulders above any similar product available. Goldman's "links" window indeed did give it the character of a relational database, while still effectively addressing the formatting concerns of the standard bibliographic database manager. Of course, because of this relational character, I figure the file format must be pretty complex. I'm a complete dunderhead with respect to computer programing *datduh*-base management and such like matters. However, I've been waiting with bated breath for the emergence of the OS X version of BibGene. This is how its author describes the Classic version: "BibGene is a BibTeX-compatible Macintosh application for maintaining databases of references to scientific papers. BibGene was designed to maintain BibTeX information in a cross-linked object-oriented format which makes it easier to detect and correct common mistakes such as multiple spellings of an author's or journal's name. BibGene also provides a way to store information that does not fit well into the BibTeX framework, such as citations from one paper to another, pointers to online preprints, and author addresses." Now doesn't this sound like a worthy successor to Papyrus? Patrick, you should certainly check out Eppstein's various web-sites because he is very explicit about the details of his file format and, well, other stuff I don't get. You might want to get in touch with Mr. Eppstein to exchange expert computer jive. You'll find the bibGene site here: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/bibs/bibgene/ This is what Mr. Eppstein has said about the coming OS X version: "OS X NEWS: As of October 2003, coding is in progress on a rewrite of BibGene, a simpler bibliographic database that shares most of its code with Gene. Most of the back end database processing is in place, and I am only waiting for my copy of OS X 10.3 before beginning to write the user interface code. We are planning on adding a new XML-based file format to Gene and BibGene which will allow better handling of accented characters; the new program will also be able to read and write files in the old format. It is looking likely that a preliminary version of BibGene will be ready for release by the end of the year. Gene will take some time longer than that, because it includes some more complex features (pictures and tree drawing) not used in BibGene. In the meantime, Gene still runs well under the Classic environment of OS X, but Gene and BibGene are the only classic programs I still use regularly so I am quite interested in getting them updated. Stay tuned..." I have migrated to LaTeX and BibTeX since the demise of Papyrus, so If you discover an effective way of exporting a Papyrus database to BibTex format while still retaining the network of links between records, I'd sure be interested in hearing about it. Eppstein's XML-based format sounds like the ideal way to go. Best wishes, a keenly interested layman. On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 pmccusker@verizon.net wrote: > I have a client who is a Papyrus user who is very concerned with the > news that the classic environment may no longer be supported in future > OS releases from Apple. This would tie a Papyrus user to working with > earlier versions of the Apple OS and very soon put users in a position > of being on an unsupported OS in order to run a well written > application. > > My goal is to analyze the file structure to see if there is a way to > import it into a relational database product. If that is possible, it > would be straightforward to build an application that would replicate > the functionality provided by Papyrus.] > > Has there ever been a discussion about open sourcing Papyrus? > > Thanks, > > Patrick __________ J.J. Crump | jjcrump@u.washington.edu Dept. of History 353560 | http://students.washington.edu/jjcrump/ University of Washington | Phone (206) 543-5790 Seattle, WA. 98195 | FAX (206) 543-9451 From dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Tue Nov 18 01:41:49 2003 From: dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com (Dave Goldman) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20031117202725.DUDY910.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> References: <20031117202725.DUDY910.out012.verizon.net@outgoing.verizon.net> Message-ID: Patrick McCusker wrote: >I have a client who is a Papyrus user who is very concerned with the >news that the classic environment may no longer be supported in >future OS releases from Apple. I haven't heard that news. Do you have a reference? (Note that Apple's new computers are no longer able to boot up in OS 9. However, they continue to include the Classic environment for running older applications.) >My goal is to analyze the file structure to see if there is a way to >import it into a relational database product. The native Papyrus file structure is fairly complex, and does not correspond to any other application's database format. As others have suggested, the best way to transfer data from Papyrus into a relational database application would be to create a Papyrus output format that includes all the fields used by your client, in an overall format that will be easy for you to import into the database app. You might start with one of the formats we already supply for export, adding to it any fields that your client uses but that we omitted in the output format. Then you can export the data from Papyrus as a plain text file. >If that is possible, it would be straightforward to build an >application that would replicate the functionality provided by >Papyrus.] It might be straightforward to implement the subset of Papyrus functions that your client uses. However -- believe me -- replicating all of the functionality provided by Papyrus in a general-purpose database application would not end up being nearly as straightforward a task as one might at first assume. >Has there ever been a discussion about open sourcing Papyrus? The biggest obstacle is that Papyrus Version 8.0 was written using the MacApp framework. There is not a large community of proficient MacApp programmers to take up an open source Papyrus. There might also be some licensing issues; MacApp has been abandoned by Apple, but Apple continues to enforce its copyright over the library. (The licensing concerns would be greater if you wanted to port Papyrus 8.0 to Windows; MacApp has had some work done to make it cross-compile to Windows, but that work remains incomplete.) -- Dave Goldman (dave@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com) Research Software Design The PAPYRUS Bibliography System 617 SW Hume Street Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) 503-796-1368, fax 503-452-8920 Technical Support: support@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Other Questions: info@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Web: http://www.ResearchSoftwareDesign.com/ From corrego at uandes.cl Tue Nov 18 07:24:07 2003 From: corrego at uandes.cl (Crist=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=bal Orrego) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am very sad that it seems that Papyrus will not be passed on to future generations. It is hard to believe, since I have tried EndNote and ProCite and they failed in my Mac, and they are not as good and flexible as Papyrus, which I use now. I shall tell you more: I remain in system 9 just to be able to use my Papyrus the longer I can, since it does not work as quickly in my OSX. Couldn't you offer and sell your software to a firm to promote it and continue with it? With appreciation, Crist?bal Orrego Chile On 18/11/03 03:41, "Dave Goldman" wrote: > Patrick McCusker wrote: > >> I have a client who is a Papyrus user who is very concerned with the >> news that the classic environment may no longer be supported in >> future OS releases from Apple. > > I haven't heard that news. Do you have a reference? > > (Note that Apple's new computers are no longer able to boot up in OS > 9. However, they continue to include the Classic environment for > running older applications.) > > >> My goal is to analyze the file structure to see if there is a way to >> import it into a relational database product. > > The native Papyrus file structure is fairly complex, and does not > correspond to any other application's database format. > > As others have suggested, the best way to transfer data from Papyrus > into a relational database application would be to create a Papyrus > output format that includes all the fields used by your client, in an > overall format that will be easy for you to import into the database > app. You might start with one of the formats we already supply for > export, adding to it any fields that your client uses but that we > omitted in the output format. > > Then you can export the data from Papyrus as a plain text file. > > >> If that is possible, it would be straightforward to build an >> application that would replicate the functionality provided by >> Papyrus.] > > It might be straightforward to implement the subset of Papyrus > functions that your client uses. However -- believe me -- replicating > all of the functionality provided by Papyrus in a general-purpose > database application would not end up being nearly as straightforward > a task as one might at first assume. > > >> Has there ever been a discussion about open sourcing Papyrus? > > The biggest obstacle is that Papyrus Version 8.0 was written using > the MacApp framework. There is not a large community of proficient > MacApp programmers to take up an open source Papyrus. There might > also be some licensing issues; MacApp has been abandoned by Apple, > but Apple continues to enforce its copyright over the library. (The > licensing concerns would be greater if you wanted to port Papyrus 8.0 > to Windows; MacApp has had some work done to make it cross-compile to > Windows, but that work remains incomplete.) > -- Profesor Dr. Crist?bal Orrego S. Universidad de los Andes (Chile) Av. San Carlos de Apoquindo 2200 6782468 Las Condes Chile Tel?fono: 56-2-2141258, ANEXO 456 ? 477 Tel?fono Directo: 4129-456 Fax: 56-2-2141751 Correo-e: corrego@uandes.cl From fabbri at pusc.it Tue Nov 18 08:50:25 2003 From: fabbri at pusc.it (fabbri@pusc.it) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] not upgrading to OS X Message-ID: Also I am using Papyrus on OS 9. In fact, I am not upgrading to OS X because I would miss Papyrus, as well as its integration with Nisus Writer (NisusExpress for OS X hasn't got footnotes yet). Thanks to David Goldman for his great work (and also for his documentation). I would like to know from adopters of OS X (especially 10.3) how Papyrus fares in the Classic environment. Does it interact well with OS X applications? Marco Fabbri Roma, Italy mail1.usc.urbe.it From anne at baird.uk.net Tue Nov 18 13:43:31 2003 From: anne at baird.uk.net (Anne Baird) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] not upgrading to OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Also I am using Papyrus on OS 9. In fact, I am not upgrading to OS X because I > would miss > Papyrus, as well as its integration with Nisus Writer (NisusExpress for OS X > hasn't got > footnotes yet). > > Thanks to David Goldman for his great work (and also for his documentation). > > I would like to know from adopters of OS X (especially 10.3) how Papyrus fares > in the > Classic environment. Does it interact well with OS X applications? > > Marco Fabbri > Roma, > Italy > mail1.usc.urbe.it > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l I am using OS X 10.2.6 and I also use Papyrus successfully in the Classic environment. It also transfers well to Word-no problems. Obviously it would be easier if it could work in OS X, but life's not perfect... Anne From f.cole at unsw.edu.au Sat Nov 22 09:37:40 2003 From: f.cole at unsw.edu.au (Fletcher Cole) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] not upgrading to OS X Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: PGP.sig Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/papyrus-mac-l/attachments/20031118/1a460013/PGP.bin From columcille at mac.com Sun Nov 23 21:16:48 2003 From: columcille at mac.com (Jim Lewis) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Message-ID: <422FD5C8-1E24-11D8-A01B-0003934B0D8C@mac.com> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 Crist?bal Orrego wrote: > Subject: Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) > From: Crist=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=bal Orrego > To: > Reply-To: papyrus-mac-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > I am very sad that it seems that Papyrus will not be passed on to > future > generations. It is hard to believe, since I have tried EndNote and > ProCite > and they failed in my Mac, and they are not as good and flexible as > Papyrus= > , > which I use now. I shall tell you more: I remain in system 9 just to > be abl= > e > to use my Papyrus the longer I can, since it does not work as quickly > in my > OSX. > > Couldn't you offer and sell your software to a firm to promote it and > continue with it? > > With appreciation, > > > Crist=F3bal Orrego > Chile=20 Are you aware of the excellent bibliography manager BookEnds? As great as I thought Papyrus was, I am now convinced, after using BookEnds, that it is superior. It is in active development: an update to accomodate OS 10.3 (v. 7.7.1) was recently published. You can check it out at: www.sonnysoftware.com. Regards, Jim Lewis From ewall at umich.edu Mon Nov 24 20:54:16 2003 From: ewall at umich.edu (Ed Wall) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] In-Reply-To: <422FD5C8-1E24-11D8-A01B-0003934B0D8C@mac.com> References: <422FD5C8-1E24-11D8-A01B-0003934B0D8C@mac.com> Message-ID: Jim This wasn't my impression of BookEnds - i.e. it didn't near as good as Papyrus - but perhaps I didn't explore it sufficiently. Could you give some reasons why you think it is superior? Ed Wall >On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 Crist?bal Orrego wrote: > >>Subject: Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) >>From: Crist=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=bal Orrego >>To: >>Reply-To: papyrus-mac-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >>I am very sad that it seems that Papyrus will not be passed on to future >>generations. It is hard to believe, since I have tried EndNote and ProCite >>and they failed in my Mac, and they are not as good and flexible as Papyrus= >>, >>which I use now. I shall tell you more: I remain in system 9 just to be abl= >>e >>to use my Papyrus the longer I can, since it does not work as quickly in my >>OSX. >> >>Couldn't you offer and sell your software to a firm to promote it and >>continue with it? >> >>With appreciation, >> >> >>Crist=F3bal Orrego >>Chile=20 > >Are you aware of the excellent bibliography manager BookEnds? As >great as I thought Papyrus was, I am now convinced, after using >BookEnds, that it is superior. It is in active development: an >update to accomodate OS 10.3 (v. 7.7.1) was recently published. You >can check it out at: www.sonnysoftware.com. > >Regards, > >Jim Lewis > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list >Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l From corrego at uandes.cl Tue Nov 25 09:30:07 2003 From: corrego at uandes.cl (Crist=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=bal Orrego) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] In-Reply-To: <422FD5C8-1E24-11D8-A01B-0003934B0D8C@mac.com> Message-ID: Thanks! I shall stick to Papyrus the longer I can, but I shall try BoojEnds to have an alternative in case Papyrus is not taken up by any software company. I still hope that the miracle might occur. Yours, Crist?bal Orrego On 23/11/03 23:16, "Jim Lewis" wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 Crist?bal Orrego wrote: > >> Subject: Re: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) >> From: Crist=?ISO-8859-1?B?8w==?=bal Orrego >> To: >> Reply-To: papyrus-mac-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> I am very sad that it seems that Papyrus will not be passed on to >> future >> generations. It is hard to believe, since I have tried EndNote and >> ProCite >> and they failed in my Mac, and they are not as good and flexible as >> Papyrus= >> , >> which I use now. I shall tell you more: I remain in system 9 just to >> be abl= >> e >> to use my Papyrus the longer I can, since it does not work as quickly >> in my >> OSX. >> >> Couldn't you offer and sell your software to a firm to promote it and >> continue with it? >> >> With appreciation, >> >> >> Crist=F3bal Orrego >> Chile=20 > > Are you aware of the excellent bibliography manager BookEnds? As great > as I thought Papyrus was, I am now convinced, after using BookEnds, > that it is superior. It is in active development: an update to > accomodate OS 10.3 (v. 7.7.1) was recently published. You can check it > out at: www.sonnysoftware.com. > > Regards, > > Jim Lewis > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l -- Profesor Dr. Crist?bal Orrego S. Universidad de los Andes (Chile) Av. San Carlos de Apoquindo 2200 6782468 Las Condes Chile Tel?fono: 56-2-2141258, ANEXO 456 ? 477 Tel?fono Directo: 4129-456 Fax: 56-2-2141751 Correo-e: corrego@uandes.cl From dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Tue Dec 30 06:10:08 2003 From: dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com (Dave Goldman) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Papyrus is now FREE Message-ID: Papyrus is now available as a FREE download from our site, . No registration is required. The downloadable versions of Papyrus are Version 7.0.17 for DOS/Windows and Version 8.0.12 for Macintosh. Version 7.0.17 is identical to Version 7.0.16c, apart from a few minor cosmetic details (plus a slightly easier-to-understand version number). Version 8.0.12 includes a few minor bug fixes not present in Version 8.0.11, and a couple of significant bug fixes since Version 8.0.10. (Please let us know if any of our newly-updated web pages contain non-functioning links or any other problems.) -- Dave Goldman (dave@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com) Research Software Design The PAPYRUS Bibliography System 617 SW Hume Street Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) fax 503-452-8920 Technical Support: support@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Other Questions: info@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Web: http://www.ResearchSoftwareDesign.com/ From deansfs at alaska.net Tue Dec 30 10:48:28 2003 From: deansfs at alaska.net (Frederick Dean) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Papyrus is now FREE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CA220EA-3ADF-11D8-8C74-000A9595E5A6@alaska.net> Thank you, Dave. I really hope that someday there will be an "X" version! You have a great product. Fred Dean On Dec 30, 2003, at 2:10 AM, Dave Goldman wrote: > Papyrus is now available as a FREE download from our site, > . No registration is required. > > The downloadable versions of Papyrus are Version 7.0.17 for > DOS/Windows and Version 8.0.12 for Macintosh. > > Version 7.0.17 is identical to Version 7.0.16c, apart from a few minor > cosmetic details (plus a slightly easier-to-understand version > number). > > Version 8.0.12 includes a few minor bug fixes not present in Version > 8.0.11, and a couple of significant bug fixes since Version 8.0.10. > > (Please let us know if any of our newly-updated web pages contain > non-functioning links or any other problems.) > > -- > Dave Goldman (dave@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com) > > Research Software Design The PAPYRUS Bibliography System > 617 SW Hume Street > Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) fax 503-452-8920 > > Technical Support: support@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > Other Questions: info@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > Web: http://www.ResearchSoftwareDesign.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l > From fabbri at pusc.it Wed Dec 31 03:43:25 2003 From: fabbri at pusc.it (fabbri@pusc.it) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] Papyrus update Message-ID: >Version 8.0.12 includes a few minor bug fixes not present in Version 8.0.11, and a couple of significant >bug fixes since Version 8.0.10. Thank you very much, Dave, for assisting us even now, when Papyrus is no longer commercial. Your service to the cademic community is very valuable. >(Please let us know if any of our newly-updated web pages contain non-functioning links or any other >problems.) Until now, I haven't found any. Happy new year to all. _______________________________________ Prof. Marco Valerio Fabbri Dipartimento di Sacra Scrittura Pontificia Università della Santa Croce Piazza S. Apollinare 49 I-00186 Roma Italy e-mail: fabbri@pusc.it fax: 39-06.68164400 mail1.usc.urbe.it