From anne at baird.uk.net Mon Aug 26 12:32:38 2002 From: anne at baird.uk.net (Anne Baird) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X Message-ID: I am upgrading to a new Mac with OS X Any suggestions for running Papyrus? Anne From s.b.malvern at reading.ac.uk Mon Aug 26 12:54:33 2002 From: s.b.malvern at reading.ac.uk (Sue Malvern) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7EFAB046-B914-11D6-A110-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> I find it runs quite happily under Classic on a MAC with OS X. It seems to be better to start up Classic once OS X is up and running, rather than have it start up at the same time (ie when you switch on the computer). I have no problems entering references into a word processed document even when the WP program is OS X and Papyrus is running under classic. You can also run a new MAC under system 9.2, which, if you haven't yet upgraded to OS X applications, may be simpler for the time being. Does anyone have any experience of Biblioscape? It is OS X native, but seems to be much less flexible than Papyrus. Sue Malvern On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 05:32 pm, Anne Baird wrote: > I am upgrading to a new Mac with OS X Any suggestions for running > Papyrus? > Anne > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l > From jan.herrmann at cetacea.de Mon Aug 26 18:52:44 2002 From: jan.herrmann at cetacea.de (Jan Herrmann) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: <7EFAB046-B914-11D6-A110-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> References: <7EFAB046-B914-11D6-A110-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear Anne, dear Sue, >I find it runs quite happily under Classic on a MAC with OS X. I agree absolutely. Papyrus runs without difficulties in the Classic environment. Drag and Drop from Papyrus to OS X application windows and vice versa works fine. >It seems to be better to start up Classic once OS X is up and >running, rather than have it start up at the same time (ie when you >switch on the computer). This is very important, because the Drag and Drop and Copy and Paste functionality from Classic apps to OS X apps doesn't get started correctly when Classic is starting automatically. Just wait a second until you start the Classic environment and everything works out fine. By the way: there are many controls and system extensions which can be switched off since classic doesn't have to deal with them anymore. That makes classic starting much faster. If anybody is interested in details here, I could try to sum up for the list what can be switched off. >Does anyone have any experience of Biblioscape? It is OS X native, >but seems to be much less flexible than Papyrus. AFAIK Biblioscape is a Windows application. The only native OS X bibliography managers I am aware of are Bookends and Endnote, both of them - generally spoken - can't reach the functionality of Papyrus. Jan -- --> Jan Herrmann [jan.herrmann@cetacea.de] From s.b.malvern at reading.ac.uk Tue Aug 27 04:43:43 2002 From: s.b.malvern at reading.ac.uk (Sue Malvern) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <17E6F38E-B999-11D6-893C-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 11:52 pm, Jan Herrmann wrote: Dear Jan, I'd like details of what extensions you can switch off in Classic. Sorry, not biblioscape but Bookends (http://www.sonnysoftware.com/download.html) It allows drag and drop and you can paste a formatted reference into a document. But it is nowhere near as intuitive or as flexible. You can import Papyrus references via Endnote format, but they need a lot of tweaking. Sue > Dear Anne, dear Sue, > >> >> Does anyone have any experience of Biblioscape? It is OS X native, but >> seems to be much less flexible than Papyrus. > > AFAIK Biblioscape is a Windows application. The only native OS X > bibliography managers I am aware of are Bookends and Endnote, both of > them - generally spoken - can't reach the functionality of Papyrus. > > Jan > -- --> Jan Herrmann [jan.herrmann@cetacea.de] > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l > From jmccuske at mac.com Tue Aug 27 08:57:58 2002 From: jmccuske at mac.com (John J. McCusker) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: References: <7EFAB046-B914-11D6-A110-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear Jan, I'd be happy to have you sum up the many controls and system extensions that can be switched off since Classic doesn't have to deal with them anymore. Thanks. Sincerely, John From columcille at mac.com Tue Aug 27 10:28:11 2002 From: columcille at mac.com (Jim Lewis) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] (no subject) Message-ID: <36E2ED9A-B9C9-11D6-8210-0003934B0D8C@mac.com> Jan Hermann writes: > This is very important, because the Drag and Drop and Copy and Paste > functionality from Classic apps to OS X apps doesn't get started > correctly when Classic is starting automatically. Just wait a second > until you start the Classic environment and everything works out fine. > By the way: there are many controls and system extensions which can > be switched off since classic doesn't have to deal with them anymore. > That makes classic starting much faster. If anybody is interested in > details here, I could try to sum up for the list what can be switched > off. > I for one would be most interested in the list of control panels and system extensions that could be turned off in Classic. Thanks. Jim Lewis From jan.herrmann at cetacea.de Tue Aug 27 11:34:49 2002 From: jan.herrmann at cetacea.de (Jan Herrmann) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: <17E6F38E-B999-11D6-893C-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> References: <17E6F38E-B999-11D6-893C-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear list, I'd like details of what extensions you can switch off in Classic. OK, I hope I always get the correct terms since I work with the german OS. I have to partitions with Mac OS 9 installations. One is for booting in Mac OS 9, one for Classic. I have two partitions mainly for security reasons, you could deal with one partition and two different settings of system extensions in a similar way. When you start Classic or boot your Mac OS 9 while pressing the space bar, the Extension Manager will open and you can choose your setting or switch extensions on or off. For Classic usage you can switch a number of extensions off, because Mac OS X is doing their job and they are meaningless in Classic environment (but cost time and RAM), some are needed in Classic only if your are using the according functions from Classic applications- So here's the list of items which can be switched off: Control Panels: Control Strip Energy Saver File Sharing Infrared Location Manager Modem Monitors Mouse Multiple Users Password Security Powerbook SCSI Disk Mode Remote Access Software Update Startup Disk TCP/IP Trackpad Web Sharing If you do everything regarding Internet in Mac OS X you can easily turn off additionally: Dial Assist Internet Location Manager Extension Apple Modem Tool Internet V.90 Modem (and other modems) LDAP extensions NBP Plugin NetSprocketLib Remote Only ShareWayIP Personal Bgnd Networking AppleTalk (maybe needed for printers?) AirPort Keychain Access IrDA Tool IrDA Lib Apple Enet Apple Enet DLPI Support AppleShare EnetShimLib File Sharing Extension File Sharing Library Multi-User Startup OpenTpt Remote Access Network Setup Extension SLPPlugin Printing I have left Printing extensions on to print from Classic applications. If you plan to print only from Mac OS X applications, you can switch off: anything containing Print, Printer, Printing, ColorSync and Printer names DVD everything with DVD in its name CD burning turn off Disc Burner extension For gamers it is recommended to play in Mac OS 9 directly and not in Classic mode, so you can switch off in your classic environment: anything containing: QuickDraw 3D, Open GL NVIDIA ATI FireWire If you don't need to use FireWire gadgets from classic applications you can turn off all FireWire extensions ----------------------------------------- Extensions which should stay ON: ----------------------------------------- Control Panels:General, Startup Disk Extensions: Apple Guide, CarbonLib, Classic RAVE, Open Transport, Open Transport ASLM Modules Loose in the System Folder: Classic Support, Classic Support UI, Proxy App The information is mainly from David Pogue (2002): Mac OS X The Missing Manual. Pogue Press O'Reilly, Sebastopol, CA I can't guarantee that it runs smoothly from the very first minute, but experimenting with switching extensions off and on could help getting a slim Classic environment which starts fast enough that you are not able to get a fresh cup of coffee;-) Jan -- -- Jan Herrmann jan.herrmann@cetacea.de Brentanostr. 16 30625 Hannover Tel: 0511-855500 Germany Fax: 01212-5-107-02-662 Vorlesungsreihe Wal und Mensch +----> http://www.cetacea.de From Peter at Danckwerts.com Tue Aug 27 07:20:32 2002 From: Peter at Danckwerts.com (Peter Danckwerts) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:34:20 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-Mac-L] system OS X In-Reply-To: <17E6F38E-B999-11D6-893C-000393551F36@reading.ac.uk> Message-ID: I thought Noteworthy (http://www.intelli-gents.com/) looked rather interesting although intelli-gents say themselves that it is not a fully-fledged database program. Peter on 27/8/02 9:43 am, Sue Malvern at s.b.malvern@reading.ac.uk wrote: > > On Monday, August 26, 2002, at 11:52 pm, Jan Herrmann wrote: > Dear Jan, > > I'd like details of what extensions you can switch off in Classic. > > Sorry, not biblioscape but Bookends > (http://www.sonnysoftware.com/download.html) > It allows drag and drop and you can paste a formatted reference into a > document. But it is nowhere near as intuitive or as flexible. You can > import Papyrus references via Endnote format, but they need a lot of > tweaking. > > Sue > >> Dear Anne, dear Sue, >> >>> > >>> Does anyone have any experience of Biblioscape? It is OS X native, but >>> seems to be much less flexible than Papyrus. >> >> AFAIK Biblioscape is a Windows application. The only native OS X >> bibliography managers I am aware of are Bookends and Endnote, both of >> them - generally spoken - can't reach the functionality of Papyrus. >> >> Jan >> -- --> Jan Herrmann [jan.herrmann@cetacea.de] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list >> Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-Mac-L mailing list > Papyrus-Mac-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-mac-l > -- Peter Danckwerts 50 Albert Rd Richmond Surrey TW10 6DP http://www.danckwerts.com email: peter@danckwerts.com Home Tel: 020 8940 8087 Home Fax: 001 4436380426 Office Tel: 020 7451 7310