From KATHYMFLAN at aol.com Sun Jul 8 17:28:32 2007 From: KATHYMFLAN at aol.com (KATHYMFLAN at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:28:32 EDT Subject: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus Message-ID: Possible solution for some: Citation may meet the needs of writers in the humanities who have been using Papyrus primarily for 1) organizing research notes/quotes and 2) formatting footnotes and bibliographies in articles or books created as Word documents. I was a very happy user of the "notecard" function of Papyrus but fearful of embarking on a new book using this software without full technical support. I was disappointed to discover that the other bibliographic options referenced in these postings do not seem to have the feature I want most: the ability to enter numerous, distinct notes for each reference, which can be accessed independently by key word or content searches as well as linked to their reference. Citation appears to have this handy notecard feature. It also creates citations, footnotes and bibliographies in proper formats in Word documents. I don't know if it will work for those of you with massive libraries who are conducting bibliographic searches on the Internet, but for basic author support, Citation seems like a good alternative. If anyone has any other feedback regarding Citation or other software that includes this versatile notecard feature, please respond to the list. Thanks. Kathleen Flanagan Leadership Communication Inc. Helping leaders and leadership teams to achieve better, faster, more enduri ng results ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From U.Kellett at griffith.edu.au Sun Jul 8 20:02:20 2007 From: U.Kellett at griffith.edu.au (Ursula Kellett) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:02:20 +1000 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Sorry I am out of my office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting Fri 06/22/2007 and will not return until Mon 07/09/2007. I will respond to your message when I return. If you have a postgraduate coursework or Bachelor of Nursing - Aged Care enquiry, please contact Lee Earle for advice and direction in my absence on l.earle at griffith.edu.au or 07 3735 7982. Thanks Ursula. From logies at web.de Mon Jul 9 02:52:52 2007 From: logies at web.de (Michael Logies) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 08:52:52 +0200 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4691DB44.3020403@web.de> At 08.07.2007 23:28 KATHYMFLAN at aol.com wrote: > Possible solution for some: Citation may meet the needs of writers in the > humanities who have been using Papyrus primarily for 1) organizing research > notes/quotes and 2) formatting footnotes and bibliographies in articles or > books created as Word documents. Kathleen, I assume that you are writing about this software: http://www.citationonline.net/citationinfo.asp Did you test Bibliographix J?rgen Laakmann was mentioning? http://home.mybibliographix.com/ The program was recommended in a leadinga german computer magazine recently: http://www.heise.de/ct/inhverz/search.shtml?T=bibliographix&Suchen=suchen&nm=0 Regards M. -- Michael Logies, Zahnarzt, Gro?e Stra?e 28, D-49134 Wallenhorst, http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste f?r die Dentalbranche), PGP-/OpenPGP-Schl?ssel (RSA/IDEA) kann angefordert werden. From hight at marshall.edu Mon Jul 9 11:09:49 2007 From: hight at marshall.edu (Hight, Mary Etta) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:09:49 -0400 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus References: <4691DB44.3020403@web.de> Message-ID: <295F916664ED8840B4B44DF345467665741EE0@MUXC07.marshall.edu> Have you tried AskSam? I don't know how it compares to some of the other programs but it can handle bibliography files as well as having many other other uses. The web iste is www.askSam.com MEHight Professor, Biological Sciences Marshall University ________________________________ From: papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com on behalf of Michael Logies Sent: Mon 7/9/2007 2:52 AM To: Papyrus Discussion List Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus At 08.07.2007 23:28 KATHYMFLAN at aol.com wrote: > Possible solution for some: Citation may meet the needs of writers in the > humanities who have been using Papyrus primarily for 1) organizing research > notes/quotes and 2) formatting footnotes and bibliographies in articles or > books created as Word documents. Kathleen, I assume that you are writing about this software: http://www.citationonline.net/citationinfo.asp Did you test Bibliographix J?rgen Laakmann was mentioning? http://home.mybibliographix.com/ The program was recommended in a leadinga german computer magazine recently: http://www.heise.de/ct/inhverz/search.shtml?T=bibliographix&Suchen=suchen&nm=0 Regards M. -- Michael Logies, Zahnarzt, Gro?e Stra?e 28, D-49134 Wallenhorst, http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste f?r die Dentalbranche), PGP-/OpenPGP-Schl?ssel (RSA/IDEA) kann angefordert werden. _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jul 9 11:32:54 2007 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (Rodgers, John R.) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus In-Reply-To: <295F916664ED8840B4B44DF345467665741EE0@MUXC07.marshall.edu> References: <4691DB44.3020403@web.de> <295F916664ED8840B4B44DF345467665741EE0@MUXC07.marshall.edu> Message-ID: <807111E286B3E1488EF8510479E087F9016B7C0A@BCMEVS7.ad.bcm.edu> Dear Papyrus users I downloaded Citation last night and figured out how to migrate my 60,000-record database into it. This came via Endnote, so I don't know how hard it is to convert directly from Papyrus (the directions for EndNote were a little confusing but they worked, and the directions for Papyrus seem easier). Yes- it allows for multiple notecards, which seem easy to use. You can search note cards separately. Not sure you can search records and note cards simultaneously. The search engine might be a little faster than Endnote, but not nearly as fast as Papryus. I'm not sure that you can convert existing note cards from Papyrus -of course one loses the note cards entirely if you go to EndNote. The search logic for Citation is crummier than EndNote, which was a long step down from Papyrus. It allows you to use only two fields simultaneously. I haven't tried out wild-cards yet. But unlike EN, the manual says you can create what I imagine is the equivalent of Papyrus' GROUPS, so that perhaps you can search within a group. Citation does allow you to insert links to URL, other files such as pdf, probably images. There isn't aren't separate fields for these as there are in EN, so it isn't clear to me how you can sort for a record that has a pdf, for example. Citation interacts on the Word toolbar. It claims it can handle WordPerfect and other formats: "If you are using Word or WordPerfect Citation assumes that you have the document containing the Access Keys open as the current document, and that you want to write your intext citations and references to the current document. If you are not using either of these word processors, Citation will scan a closed file on your disk. This file can be in rtf format, Word Perfect document format, html, or a text file. " -john Rodgers > the humanities who have been using Papyrus primarily for 1) organizing > research notes/quotes and 2) formatting footnotes and bibliographies > in articles or books created as Word documents. Kathleen, I assume that you are writing about this software: http://www.citationonline.net/citationinfo.asp Did you test Bibliographix J?rgen Laakmann was mentioning? http://home.mybibliographix.com/ The program was recommended in a leadinga german computer magazine recently: http://www.heise.de/ct/inhverz/search.shtml?T=bibliographix&Suchen=suchen&nm=0 Regards M. -- Michael Logies, Zahnarzt, Gro?e Stra?e 28, D-49134 Wallenhorst, http://www.logies.de/ (u. a. _die_ Mailingliste f?r die Dentalbranche), PGP-/OpenPGP-Schl?ssel (RSA/IDEA) kann angefordert werden. _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From agreer at uwm.edu Mon Jul 9 13:28:35 2007 From: agreer at uwm.edu (Ann Lennarson Greer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:28:35 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus: Message prior to Rodgers submission In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1184002115.469270433fc4d@panthermail.uwm.edu> Quoting KATHYMFLAN at aol.com: > Possible solution for some: Citation may meet the needs of writers in the > humanities who have been using Papyrus primarily for 1) organizing research > notes/quotes and 2) formatting footnotes and bibliographies in articles or > books created as Word documents. > > I was a very happy user of the "notecard" function of Papyrus but fearful of > embarking on a new book using this software without full technical support. > I was disappointed to discover that the other bibliographic options > referenced in these postings do not seem to have the feature I want most: > the > ability to enter numerous, distinct notes for each reference, which can be > accessed > independently by key word or content searches as well as linked to their > reference. > > Citation appears to have this handy notecard feature. It also creates > citations, footnotes and bibliographies in proper formats in Word documents. > I > don't know if it will work for those of you with massive libraries who are > conducting bibliographic searches on the Internet, but for basic author > support, > Citation seems like a good alternative. > > If anyone has any other feedback regarding Citation or other software that > includes this versatile notecard feature, please respond to the list. > Thanks. > > > Kathleen Flanagan > Leadership Communication Inc. > > Helping leaders and leadership teams to achieve better, faster, more enduri > ng results > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Ann Lennarson Greer Professor of Sociology and Urban Studies University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Milwaukee, WI 53201-0413 Office: 1-414-229-6944/4388 Office fax: 1-414-229-4266 Personal fax 1-915-990-9268 London: 44-(0)20-7352-0243 Email: agreer at uwm.edu From mike.palmer at okstate.edu Mon Jul 9 13:46:14 2007 From: mike.palmer at okstate.edu (Palmer, Mike) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:46:14 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions Message-ID: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D67629@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Dear listserv, I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote using the conversion files and instructions given here: http://endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp . However, theses, dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd things happen with the information about the editions of books. Does anyone know a fix to this problem? Many thanks, --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Wed Jul 11 16:17:58 2007 From: dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com (Dave Goldman, Research Software Design) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:17:58 -0700 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Exporting from Papyrus to any dbase In-Reply-To: <4694B8CE020000B4000008CD@sjhcgwvs01.sjhc.london.on.ca> References: <4694B8CE020000B4000008CD@sjhcgwvs01.sjhc.london.on.ca> Message-ID: Diana Robertson wrote: >I want to take our current Papyrus records (or bibliography) and >export them from Papyrus and import them into our library catalogue >program that will take any comma delimited format so basically you >could say that I want to convert my Papyrus bibliography to >Microsoft Access. > >Does anyone know if there are any instructions anywhere for that? Here are some starting instructions: . -- Dave Goldman (dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com) Research Software Design The PAPYRUS Bibliography System 617 SW Hume Street Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) fax 503-452-8920 Technical Support: support at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Other Questions: info at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Web: http://www.ResearchSoftwareDesign.com/ From mike.palmer at okstate.edu Mon Jul 16 14:16:27 2007 From: mike.palmer at okstate.edu (Palmer, Mike) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:16:27 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? Message-ID: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Dear listserv, On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote as posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help email address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query (though I do realize that many people are away in July). I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a general problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet solved. So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get imported properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get transferred properly? (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu ________________________________ From: Palmer, Mike Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions Dear listserv, I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote using the conversion files and instructions given here: http://endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp . However, theses, dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd things happen with the information about the editions of books. Does anyone know a fix to this problem? Many thanks, --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Tue Jul 17 13:50:11 2007 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:50:11 -0400 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? In-Reply-To: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> References: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Mike. As luck would have it, our star project manager has been working this out, and can help you out. He'll e-mail you off list. Raisa Deber On 16-Jul-07, at 2:16 PM, Palmer, Mike wrote: > Dear listserv, > > > > On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote > as posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help > email address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. > Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query > (though I do realize that many people are away in July). > > > > I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the > problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a general > problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet solved. > > > > So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this > problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get > imported properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get > transferred properly? > > > > (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I would > prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). > > > > --Mike > > > > Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University > 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 > LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: > http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ > OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// > ecology.okstate.edu > > From: Palmer, Mike > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM > To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' > Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions > > > > Dear listserv, > > > > I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote > using the conversion files and instructions given here: http:// > endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp. However, theses, > dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For > example, ?%9 Thesis? or ?%9 Dissertation? becomes concatenated to > the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree > (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd > things happen with the information about the editions of books. > > > > Does anyone know a fix to this problem? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > --Mike > > > > > > Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University > 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 > LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: > http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ > OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// > ecology.okstate.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa Deber, PhD Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources (www.teamgrant.ca) Health Sciences Building 155 College Street Suite 425 Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Wed Jul 18 10:12:15 2007 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:12:15 -0400 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? In-Reply-To: References: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <60AB6777-77C1-4AAE-B6E1-38B066AF13B5@utoronto.ca> As requested, I'm providing some additional information about this on list - Mike and Kan (our project manager) can give more details if required. Evidently, the issue relates to how one formats/edits your import filters from EndNote (Edit/Import filters). When you edit a particular filter you can specify what %9 variables link to within EndNote. You modify/add these links in the 'Templates' area when editing a filter. Kan has managed to format these filters so that all fields can be transferred, for the benefit of our team members using EndNote. We're still maintaining the full database in Papyrus, and many of us (including me) are still sticking with Papyrus, but this gives us some flexibility, particularly for those needing to text extract from Windows versions of Word. BTW, I have been told that Endnote has also added a field to allow us to keep the Papyrus number, and even use it for text extracting. This may or may not have anything to do with my request to Endnote a few years ago that they add that functionality. I hope this helps. Raisa On 17-Jul-07, at 1:50 PM, Raisa Deber wrote: > Hi, Mike. As luck would have it, our star project manager has been > working this out, and can help you out. He'll e-mail you off list. > Raisa Deber > > On 16-Jul-07, at 2:16 PM, Palmer, Mike wrote: > >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote >> as posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help >> email address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. >> Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query >> (though I do realize that many people are away in July). >> >> >> >> I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the >> problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a >> general problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet >> solved. >> >> >> >> So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this >> problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get >> imported properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get >> transferred properly? >> >> >> >> (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I >> would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> From: Palmer, Mike >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM >> To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' >> Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions >> >> >> >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote >> using the conversion files and instructions given here: http:// >> endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp. However, theses, >> dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For >> example, ?%9 Thesis? or ?%9 Dissertation? becomes concatenated to >> the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree >> (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd >> things happen with the information about the editions of books. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a fix to this problem? >> >> >> >> Many thanks, >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-L mailing list >> Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > Raisa Deber, PhD > Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation > Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto > Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources > (www.teamgrant.ca) > Health Sciences Building > 155 College Street Suite 425 > Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 > phone: (416) 978-8366 > fax: (416) 978-7350 > e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa Deber, PhD Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources (www.teamgrant.ca) Health Sciences Building 155 College Street Suite 425 Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Wed Jul 18 10:40:18 2007 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (Rodgers, John R.) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:40:18 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? In-Reply-To: <60AB6777-77C1-4AAE-B6E1-38B066AF13B5@utoronto.ca> References: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> <60AB6777-77C1-4AAE-B6E1-38B066AF13B5@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <807111E286B3E1488EF8510479E087F901884FF5@BCMEVS7.ad.bcm.edu> Dear listers, When I converted my Pap database (long live the Pap database) to EN, I was able to save the papyrus nos. in a user-defined field which I called "pap #". I can't remember the details of the mapping, but it wasn't hard. One feature that I loved in Papyrus, but haven't been able to emulate directly so far, is the "text extract" function, which created a new group of all the references used in a particular manuscript. You could then assign a keyword to all those members. In EN you can create a "traveling library" of the citations in a given document, but there is no easy way (that I have figured out) of merging those back into the parent EN library. Whenever you import documents you create a new EN record #, [Here's a trick that might work: 1. make sure there are no duplicates in your database 2. import the traveling library. This creates duplicates for every record used. 3. Search for all duplicates. 4. Add the keyword to all duplicates. 5. Sort by record # and delete the duplicates with higher number. 6. I think this would work.] -John Rodgers -----Original Message----- From: papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com [mailto:papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com] On Behalf Of Raisa Deber Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:12 AM To: Papyrus Discussion List Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? As requested, I'm providing some additional information about this on list - Mike and Kan (our project manager) can give more details if required. Evidently, the issue relates to how one formats/edits your import filters from EndNote (Edit/Import filters). When you edit a particular filter you can specify what %9 variables link to within EndNote. You modify/add these links in the 'Templates' area when editing a filter. Kan has managed to format these filters so that all fields can be transferred, for the benefit of our team members using EndNote. We're still maintaining the full database in Papyrus, and many of us (including me) are still sticking with Papyrus, but this gives us some flexibility, particularly for those needing to text extract from Windows versions of Word. BTW, I have been told that Endnote has also added a field to allow us to keep the Papyrus number, and even use it for text extracting. This may or may not have anything to do with my request to Endnote a few years ago that they add that functionality. I hope this helps. Raisa On 17-Jul-07, at 1:50 PM, Raisa Deber wrote: > Hi, Mike. As luck would have it, our star project manager has been > working this out, and can help you out. He'll e-mail you off list. > Raisa Deber > > On 16-Jul-07, at 2:16 PM, Palmer, Mike wrote: > >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote as >> posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help email >> address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. >> Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query >> (though I do realize that many people are away in July). >> >> >> >> I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the >> problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a general >> problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet solved. >> >> >> >> So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this >> problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get imported >> properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get transferred >> properly? >> >> >> >> (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I >> would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> From: Palmer, Mike >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM >> To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' >> Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions >> >> >> >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote >> using the conversion files and instructions given here: http:// >> endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp. However, theses, >> dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For >> example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to >> the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree >> (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd >> things happen with the information about the editions of books. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a fix to this problem? >> >> >> >> Many thanks, >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-L mailing list >> Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > Raisa Deber, PhD > Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation > Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto > Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources > (www.teamgrant.ca) > Health Sciences Building > 155 College Street Suite 425 > Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 > phone: (416) 978-8366 > fax: (416) 978-7350 > e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa Deber, PhD Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources (www.teamgrant.ca) Health Sciences Building 155 College Street Suite 425 Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From mike.palmer at okstate.edu Wed Jul 18 12:46:18 2007 From: mike.palmer at okstate.edu (Palmer, Mike) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:46:18 -0500 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? In-Reply-To: <60AB6777-77C1-4AAE-B6E1-38B066AF13B5@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801DC381E@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Dear good folks, I would like to thank a number of people in helping out with this. I am narrowing down on a solution. Some points: 1) the "Papyrus 7 to Endnote Format" can be modified to make tags less ambiguous. 2) The Endote import filter "Endnote Import" seems to recognize more fields, and is more flexible, than "RefBiblX". 3) "Comments" are stored by the Papyrus export under the %O tag. Unfortunately, different reference types in EndNote assign the %O tab to different fields. Thus, I changed all of the "%O" tags to "%<", which is universally recognized by Endnote as a "Research Notes" field. There are similar problems with the "%N" tag. 4) Endnote apparently has a strange bug: when you modify an import filter for a reference type other than 'Journal Article', then the 'Journal Article' type is no longer able to accept the %F tag from the Papyrus export (this tag is used to store the Papyrus reference number). The EndNote people are working on figuring out this bug. Because of #4, I am finding it more productive to modify the Papyrus export format than to modify the Endnote import filter. If and when it seems to work well (noting that there are fields I do not use in Papyrus and will therefore not modify), I would be happy to provide my modified export format file to anyone interested. --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu -----Original Message----- From: papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com [mailto:papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com] On Behalf Of Raisa Deber Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:12 AM To: Papyrus Discussion List Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? As requested, I'm providing some additional information about this on list - Mike and Kan (our project manager) can give more details if required. Evidently, the issue relates to how one formats/edits your import filters from EndNote (Edit/Import filters). When you edit a particular filter you can specify what %9 variables link to within EndNote. You modify/add these links in the 'Templates' area when editing a filter. Kan has managed to format these filters so that all fields can be transferred, for the benefit of our team members using EndNote. We're still maintaining the full database in Papyrus, and many of us (including me) are still sticking with Papyrus, but this gives us some flexibility, particularly for those needing to text extract from Windows versions of Word. BTW, I have been told that Endnote has also added a field to allow us to keep the Papyrus number, and even use it for text extracting. This may or may not have anything to do with my request to Endnote a few years ago that they add that functionality. I hope this helps. Raisa On 17-Jul-07, at 1:50 PM, Raisa Deber wrote: > Hi, Mike. As luck would have it, our star project manager has been > working this out, and can help you out. He'll e-mail you off list. > Raisa Deber > > On 16-Jul-07, at 2:16 PM, Palmer, Mike wrote: > >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote >> as posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help >> email address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. >> Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query >> (though I do realize that many people are away in July). >> >> >> >> I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the >> problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a >> general problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet >> solved. >> >> >> >> So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this >> problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get >> imported properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get >> transferred properly? >> >> >> >> (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I >> would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> From: Palmer, Mike >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM >> To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' >> Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions >> >> >> >> Dear listserv, >> >> >> >> I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote >> using the conversion files and instructions given here: http:// >> endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp. However, theses, >> dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For >> example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to >> the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree >> (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd >> things happen with the information about the editions of books. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know a fix to this problem? >> >> >> >> Many thanks, >> >> >> >> --Mike >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University >> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 >> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: >> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ >> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http:// >> ecology.okstate.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-L mailing list >> Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > Raisa Deber, PhD > Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation > Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto > Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources > (www.teamgrant.ca) > Health Sciences Building > 155 College Street Suite 425 > Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 > phone: (416) 978-8366 > fax: (416) 978-7350 > e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa Deber, PhD Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources (www.teamgrant.ca) Health Sciences Building 155 College Street Suite 425 Toronto, ON M5T 3M6 phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From borgemc at comcast.net Wed Jul 18 10:12:43 2007 From: borgemc at comcast.net (Borge M Christensen) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:12:43 -0700 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? In-Reply-To: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> References: <42CA836A714C1B4482D07E5E0799E53801D6809D@EXE2.ad.okstate.edu> Message-ID: <002001c7c945$b5a786d0$fb3de247@BMCHome> I didn't respond because I don't use Endnote! Good luck. Mandrup _____ From: papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com [mailto:papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com] On Behalf Of Palmer, Mike Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:16 AM To: papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Subject: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem? Dear listserv, On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote as posted below. I also attempted to contact the papyrus help email address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly. Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query (though I do realize that many people are away in July). I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a general problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet solved. So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this problem? That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get imported properly into EndNote? Do editions of books get transferred properly? (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!). --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: h ttp://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu _____ From: Palmer, Mike Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com' Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions Dear listserv, I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote using the conversion files and instructions given here: http://endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp. However, theses, dissertations and books do not get converted properly. For example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible. Similar odd things happen with the information about the editions of books. Does anyone know a fix to this problem? Many thanks, --Mike Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074 LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS: h ttp://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/ OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/ OSU Ecology: http://ecology.okstate.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org Thu Sep 6 15:45:35 2007 From: Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org (Thomas Gill) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:45:35 -0400 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2002 Message-ID: <46E0209E.183B.005D.0@ynhh.org> Has anyone had any success with getting Papyrus to work with Word 2002? Word 2000 is no longer supported by our network and will have to be uninstalled, sending me into a panic in terms of my ability to generate references for Word 2002 documents. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Tom Gill **************************************************************** Thomas M. Gill, M.D. Professor of Medicine, Epidemiology & Investigative Medicine Yale University School of Medicine 20 York Street, TMP 17B New Haven, CT 06504 Phone: (203) 688-3344 Fax: (203) 688-4209 Email: thomas.gill at yale.edu **************************************************************** This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If you are the intended recipient you must maintain this message in a secure and confidential manner. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Thu Sep 6 20:24:50 2007 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:24:50 -0400 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2002 In-Reply-To: <46E0209E.183B.005D.0@ynhh.org> References: <46E0209E.183B.005D.0@ynhh.org> Message-ID: <698F0C89-0789-41DF-AB01-44485652DC06@utoronto.ca> Since text extract works from Papyrus, as long as you can save it in a compatible form, it should work. So you should be fine as long as you can save your files in Word 6/95. (See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291337). So ask your technical support to make sure they have the right converters. Alternatively, the Mac version of Papyrus (8), works fine with Word 2004 for Mac and also can text extract other Word files from current versions of Word for Windows. However, since it is a Classic application, it would probably give problems on an Intel Mac. Hope this helps. Raisa Deber On Sep 6, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Thomas Gill wrote: > Has anyone had any success with getting Papyrus to work with Word > 2002? Word 2000 is no longer supported by our network and will > have to be uninstalled, sending me into a panic in terms of my > ability to generate references for Word 2002 documents. Any > assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Tom Gill > > > **************************************************************** > Thomas M. Gill, M.D. > Professor of Medicine, Epidemiology & Investigative Medicine > Yale University School of Medicine > 20 York Street, TMP 17B > New Haven, CT 06504 > Phone: (203) 688-3344 Fax: (203) 688-4209 > Email: thomas.gill at yale.edu > **************************************************************** > > > This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The > information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential. 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