From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Jun 22 07:31:38 2004 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:38 2004 Subject: No subject Message-ID: great program with a worldwide base of support. Do try to give us periodic encouragement to stick with you. Best, Pat Riordan Patrick Riordan, Ph.D. Director, Resource Center for Florida History and Politics LIB 466A, University of South Florida 4202 E. Fowler Avenue Tampa FL 33620-5400 Ph 813-974-4141 Fax 813-974-5153 priordan@lib.usf.edu From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Jun 22 07:31:38 2004 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:39 2004 Subject: No subject Message-ID: change any settings, just proceed and tell Papyrus to re-sort the Group. That will most likely repair the problem with the Group. If not, e-mail me directly. -- Dave Goldman (dave@rsd.com) Research Software Design 503/796-1368, fax 503-452-8920 617 SW Hume Street The PAPYRUS Bibliography System Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) Technical Support: support@rsd.com Other Questions: info@rsd.com WWW Site: http://www.rsd.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Jun 22 07:31:38 2004 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:47 2004 Subject: No subject Message-ID: 7. Why does the entire download file import into a single ProCite record? ProCite most likely used the first field tag to determine that there was a record at all. You need to specify how to identify the beginning of each new record, and possibly how to identify the end of each record. Find something unique that starts each record; it may be a number or a consistent string of text or field tag. Open the configuration file with Biblio-Link II, and from the Configuration menu, select Record Identification. Enter the appropriate header format. Then, make sure all the field tags have been added and mapped for this database. See the Biblio-Link II Guide for guidance. -- Dave Goldman (dave@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com) Research Software Design The PAPYRUS Bibliography System 617 SW Hume Street Portland OR 97219-4458 (U.S.A.) 503-796-1368, fax 503-452-8920 Technical Support: support@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Other Questions: info@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Web: http://www.ResearchSoftwareDesign.com/ From denisej at email.unc.edu Mon Apr 19 14:23:36 2004 From: denisej at email.unc.edu (Denise Johnson) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Help Message-ID: <40841927.E794984B@email.unc.edu> How do I print a copy of the references that I just entered that has the reference # and the references on it with also these lines showing: SUBJ. TWO: SUB. ONE: RGW NO.: (This won't be on everyone's just mine. But the first two should. I need to print the reference #, the entire reference, and the lines for the boss to write in his subject # for me to put in next. Help me. Thanks, :-) Denise -- Denise L. Johnson -You never saw a fish on the wall with its mouth shut. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: denisej.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 418 bytes Desc: Card for Denise Johnson Url : http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/papyrus-l/attachments/20040419/de2a2818/denisej.vcf From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 20 18:33:10 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Help In-Reply-To: <40841927.E794984B@email.unc.edu> References: <40841927.E794984B@email.unc.edu> Message-ID: Hello, Denise. On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Denise Johnson wrote: > How do I print a copy of the references that I just entered that has the > reference # and the references on it with also these lines showing: > SUBJ. TWO: > SUB. ONE: > RGW NO.: (This won't be on everyone's just mine. But the first two > should. > I need to print the reference #, the entire reference, and the lines for > the boss to write in his subject # for me to put in next. > It seems to me that, since this will be an on-going requirement, you would be best served by creating a dedicated export format which will give you a tailored output, in the same way that you can get reference citations in any form to match publishers' needs. I don't have Papyrus on this PC and it's been a while since I needed to create a brand new format but I'm sure that it won't be too long before someone else comes on line with a completion to this, or a better scheme! In the meantime and if this concept of a dediated output format appeals, you might want to have a look at the documentation relating to the creation of these formats. Then all you need to do is select this new format and list your references - either the full lot or just those in the range you enterred Hope this helps, Denis From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Tue May 4 11:57:58 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2003 In-Reply-To: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040504105500.01eb20b0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Hiho lonely users I'm using papyrus with this version of the what we might call the "Loose Canon" :) of the word processing world. I've tried various tricks but I get lots of gobbledygook (header type junk) showing up on the output from Papyrus. Anybody have a clue? Thanks, John From Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org Tue May 4 12:12:13 2004 From: Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org (Thomas Gill) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2003 Message-ID: I gave up on this several months ago and reverted to an earlier version of Word. I beileve that Dave has stopped updating Papyrus to allow sue of the new versions of Word. Unfortunately, at some point I will probably have to give up on Papyrus. >>> jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu 5/4/04 11:57:58 AM >>> Hiho lonely users I'm using papyrus with this version of the what we might call the "Loose Canon" :) of the word processing world. I've tried various tricks but I get lots of gobbledygook (header type junk) showing up on the output from Papyrus. Anybody have a clue? Thanks, John _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If you are the intended recipient, you must maintain this message in a secure and confidential manner. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank you. From lcampbell at ocean.tamu.edu Tue May 4 12:35:38 2004 From: lcampbell at ocean.tamu.edu (Lisa Campbell) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2003 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20040504113358.01c3d320@ocean.tamu.edu> I am successful using Papyrus with OfficeXP... Try text extract for wordperfect, then open in word (should import it ok), I think I have had to use that option at one time. At 11:12 AM 5/4/2004, you wrote: >I gave up on this several months ago and reverted to an earlier version >of Word. I beileve that Dave has stopped updating Papyrus to allow sue >of the new versions of Word. Unfortunately, at some point I will >probably have to give up on Papyrus. > > >>> jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu 5/4/04 11:57:58 AM >>> >Hiho lonely users > I'm using papyrus with this version of the what we might call the >"Loose Canon" :) of the word processing world. I've tried various >tricks >but I get lots of gobbledygook (header type junk) showing up on the >output >from Papyrus. Anybody have a clue? > Thanks, > John > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > > >This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The >information contained in this message may be privileged and >confidential. If you are the intended recipient, you must maintain this >message in a secure and confidential manner. If you are not the intended >recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this >message. Thank you. > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Tue May 4 13:45:28 2004 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2003 In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040504105500.01eb20b0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040504130637.02f46e50@mailbox10.utcc.utoronto.ca> At 10:57 AM 5/4/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hiho lonely users > I'm using papyrus with this version of the what we might call the > "Loose Canon" :) of the word processing world. I've tried various tricks > but I get lots of gobbledygook (header type junk) showing up on the > output from Papyrus. Anybody have a clue? > Thanks, > John I have had exactly the same problem. I am not using Word 2002/2003, but some of my students are, and even a one-line ("This is a test") program gets turned into gibberish when processed by Papyrus. There is something about the file format of these later Word versions which can't be processed by DOS programs (not just Papyrus; other programs give similar problems). I haven't had much luck finding out precisely what the issue is; seems to be something relating to html tags, but I wouldn't bet on it. My suggestion is trying to save it in an earlier Word format, but I'd appreciate knowing what works so I can pass it on to others. (I still use WordPerfect whenever possible, where the problem doesn't arise - yet. I'm certain that eventually it too will be 'improved' to make other packages non-functional. I also don't have the problem when I process it through Word 2000, which is why I'm suggesting the 'save as earlier version' kludge.) I just went hunting through some sites; the "conversion" sites are full of complaints that various things will no longer work with Word 2003, including earlier versions of Word and Works. There don't seem to be any fixes posted other than "convert everything to Word 2003." Indeed, one post (http://www.mcse.ms/archive137-2004-2-390660.html) tells us that "Word 2003 removed the ability to save in any WP format. (I returned the product primarily for that reason.) There are a couple of formats, WP included, listed in the Save As dialog that simply do not work. When you try them, you get an error message that states that the converter is only intended for importing, not exporting. This behavior is confirmed by the Help screens. (It's not at all clear why they are listed in the Save As dialog since they don't work.) You can use the RTF format option, but some versions of WP don't do nearly as good a job of importing RTF than Word used to do of exporting WP format. I removed MS Office 2003, went back to using Word 2000, and still could not save in WP format, even after repairing the installation. To get the old converter to work, I had to modify my Office 2000 installation to remove the converters and add them back in." So, the short answer is that I would be very cautious about using a package which won't play well with others, but you may not have a choice. The long answer is - please tell me which (if any) formats you can save as which won't lose all formatting and will still work. Thanks Raisa >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa B. Deber, PhD Professor Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation University of Toronto McMurrich Building, 2nd Floor 12 Queen's Park Crescent West Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A8 telephone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber@utoronto.ca Director: M-THAC (From Medicare To Home And Community) Research Unit. www.m-thac.org From denisej at email.unc.edu Tue May 4 12:44:35 2004 From: denisej at email.unc.edu (Denise Johnson) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Word 2003 In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20040504113358.01c3d320@ocean.tamu.edu> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20040504113358.01c3d320@ocean.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <4097C873.8010902@email.unc.edu> Hey, Can you tell me how to print out the references with it including the subject lines? Thanks, Denise Lisa Campbell wrote: > I am successful using Papyrus with OfficeXP... > Try text extract for wordperfect, then open in word (should import it > ok), I think I have had to use that option at one time. > > > At 11:12 AM 5/4/2004, you wrote: > >> I gave up on this several months ago and reverted to an earlier version >> of Word. I beileve that Dave has stopped updating Papyrus to allow sue >> of the new versions of Word. Unfortunately, at some point I will >> probably have to give up on Papyrus. >> >> >>> jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu 5/4/04 11:57:58 AM >>> >> Hiho lonely users >> I'm using papyrus with this version of the what we might call the >> "Loose Canon" :) of the word processing world. I've tried various >> tricks >> but I get lots of gobbledygook (header type junk) showing up on the >> output >> from Papyrus. Anybody have a clue? >> Thanks, >> John >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-L mailing list >> Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l >> >> >> >> This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The >> information contained in this message may be privileged and >> confidential. If you are the intended recipient, you must maintain >> this message in a secure and confidential manner. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy >> this message. Thank you. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Papyrus-L mailing list >> Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l -- Denise L. Johnson Administrative Assistant The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Public Health Department of Environmental Sciences & Engineering CB # 7431, 124 Rosenau Hall Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7431 919.843.4580-Work 919.843.4072-Fax "Life is a zoo in a jungle." -Peter De Vries -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: denisej.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 421 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/papyrus-l/attachments/20040504/35a11803/denisej.vcf From mhklein at wisc.edu Wed Jun 16 14:48:45 2004 From: mhklein at wisc.edu (Marj Klein) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] converting pap to endnote Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040616134556.01d97008@wiscmail.wisc.edu> I tried to get the conversion utility from the link you provided and I couldn't get on. Has that changed? How can I get the utilities I need to help a friend with the conversion. Mine with procite went very smoothly. You can find the output format and instructions on its use at ftp://ftp.niles.com/pub/pc/import_utilities/PAPYRUS7/. (At least, that's where we found this stuff on the EndNote Web site the last time we looked.) Marjorie H. Klein, Ph.D. Department of Psychiatry 6001 Research Park Boulevard Madison, WI 53719 Phone: 608-263-6066 Fax: 608-265-4008 Email: MHKlein@Facstaff.wisc.edu From mhklein at wisc.edu Wed Jun 16 15:13:50 2004 From: mhklein at wisc.edu (Marj Klein) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] testing Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040616141254.01e3cba8@wiscmail.wisc.edu> I tried an earlier email with a question but it came back undeliverable. Just checking to see if it goes. I am seeking information on converting from papyrus to endnote. Marjorie H. Klein, Ph.D. Department of Psychiatry 6001 Research Park Boulevard Madison, WI 53719 Phone: 608-263-6066 Fax: 608-265-4008 Email: MHKlein@Facstaff.wisc.edu From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Wed Jun 16 21:29:22 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] wordperfect cite workaround /observations about Word versions in the XP environment Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040616201209.01f466e8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Dear Listers, this may be old hat to some of you. A. I decided to return to WordPerfect for my next big writing project, after about a year using little but Word. But now I'm in an XP environment, where I can't get the cite function to work through the clipboard or through the Mark Thissen's Papref program. Here's what I got to work. 1. tell Papyrus to use c:\papref.txt instead of the clipboard 2. make this Macro: Application (WordPerfect; "WordPerfect"; Default!; "EN") FileInsert (Filename: "C:\PAPREF.TXT"; AutoDetect: No!) (File, insert c:\papref.txt, close) 3. save the macro in the root directory so it has a short path name, such as " c:\ic.wcm" (insert citation) 4. place a macro on your macro toolbar with FULL PATH NAME (which is why you want a short pathname). 5. Clicking this macro now will insert the reference wherever desired. comments: 1. unlike Word, WP doesn't claim rights to every file it has every touched that session, so Papyrus can re-write to papref.txt 2. you need to use full path name. It seems that otherwise WP (I'm using version 11) sets up temporary files for invoked macros- and this macro doesn't work properly - it just opens c:\papref.txt but doesn't copy the data or close it) 3. even so, XP is slow as molasses in January in switching between DOS windows and XP windows, so it is a pain in the neck. B. Word97 freezes every once in a while when I'm working, so I prefer to use Word 2003, the other one available, which seems pretty stable. But the Word 2003 seems not to understand RTF very well, and Papyrus can't understand its Wordese. So I write in Word 2003, using Notepad to handle citations through c:\papref.txt. Then I close, and re-open the document in Word97, then close again as .doc file (not RTF). This file Papyrus can handle, and I can open the output in Word97 afterwords. -John Rodgers John R. Rodgers, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Immunology Room M929 Baylor College of Medicine One Baylor Plaza Houston, Texas 770303 phone: 713-798-3903 fax: 713-798-3700 email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Thu Jun 17 17:44:21 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] another wordperfect macro approach for full exchange with Papyrus under XP Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040617163828.01f5f798@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Here's a macro approach for pasting from WP into Papyrus via a disk file: 1. create a macro in the root directory such as c:\expap.wcm 2. This macro should copy a blocked text to a New file, then save same as c:\papref.txt as an ascii file, then close new file. My code was: Application (WordPerfect; "WordPerfect"; Default!; "EN") EditCopy () FileNew () EditPaste () FileSave (Filename: "C:\PAPREF.TXT"; ExportType: ASCIIStandard!) Close () 3. put this macro on your macro tool bar with "FULL PATH". 4. to use- block the desired text, then invoke c:\expap. 5. Within Papyrus, use the F4 key to paste. -John Rodgers