From gota27 at udcf.gla.ac.uk Fri Jan 9 03:02:04 2004 From: gota27 at udcf.gla.ac.uk (Prof Donald M Hadley) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Possible to link .pdf files to Papyrus 7.0.17 In-Reply-To: <1072860710.19267.6.camel@drfgp2-rhl9> References: <3.0.1.32.20031231081248.00df1a38@udcf.gla.ac.uk> <3.0.1.32.20031231081248.00df1a38@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20040109080204.00dc75f8@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Dear Colleagues, I have Papyrus working in a stable mode on W2K and ME systems with over 47K references - I am very reluctant to change. My students use it widely and successfully. Does anyone out there know how to link the a whole journal to a reference e.g. can you link a .pdf file to a reference so it can be entered while in Papyrus and allow you to open the .pdf automatically so the article can be read; then go back to papyrus? It would be great for this to work like an attachment on an email. Could this work through putting the pathway into the comments or one of the A, B, or C fileds. Any ideas? Thanks Dave for a great system its such a pity the development is not continuing! Donald. Prof Donald M Hadley Neuroradiology Department Institute of Neurological Sciences 1345 Govan Road Glasgow G51 4TF 0141 201 2119 0141 201 2125 From bob.barrett at adelaide.edu.au Sun Jan 11 21:20:30 2004 From: bob.barrett at adelaide.edu.au (Bob Barrett) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Re: link .pdf files to Pap References: <3.0.1.32.20031231081248.00df1a38@udcf.gla.ac.uk> <3.0.1.32.20031231081248.00df1a38@udcf.gla.ac.uk> <3.0.1.32.20040109080204.00dc75f8@udcf.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4002046E.2414277A@adelaide.edu.au> Donald, I cannot help with the linking but you may consider the use of Ghost rather than Adobe to access the .pdf files. I believe that the use of a PERL script as an envelope the Papyrus and Ghost interaction may work but I am not proficient enough at PERL. No doubt Glaswegians are! Ghost Script view and Ghostscript are open source and the developers may help you incorporate the function. One comes from Queensland - beautiful one day, perfect the next - so they may be too busy swimming. Bob ========== part text copied from the Introduction follows FYI ======== GSview is a graphical interface for Ghostscript under MS-Windows, OS/2 and Unix. Ghostscript is an interpreter for the PostScript page description language used by laser printers. For documents following the Adobe PostScript Document Structuring Conventions, GSview allows selected pages to be viewed or printed. GSview requires Ghostscript 7.04 - 8.99. Features include: Display and print PostScript and PDF files. View pages in arbitrary order (Next, Previous, Goto). Page size and Orientation are automatically selected from DSC comments or can be selected using the menu. Print selected pages using Ghostscript. Convert pages to bitmap, PDF or PostScript. Selectable display resolution, depth, alpha. Single button zoom. ** Extract selected pages to another file. Copy display bitmap to clipboard. Save clipboard bitmap as BMP file. Add bitmap or user preview to EPS file (Interchange, TIFF or Windows Metafile) Graphically select and show bounding box for EPS file. Extract bitmap preview or PostScript from DOS EPS file. Extract text or search for text. Can read gzip and bzip2 compressed PostScript and PDF files. On-line help. Win32, OS/2 and X11/Linux executables. Older versions support Win16. Can be run directly off a CD-ROM. English, Catalan, Dutch, French, German, Greek, Italian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish and Swedish languages. *** No Scotch *** Per user initialisation files for Windows. Includes setup program. Free (Aladdin Free Public Licence). Works with Ghostscript 7.04 - 8.99 (GSview checks the Ghostscript version number). Older version of GSview will work with Ghostscript 4.03 - 6.99. For Win32, Obtain GSview (gsv44w32.exe) from http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/gsview/get44.htm Obtain AFPL Ghostscript 8.00 (gs800w32.exe) from http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/AFPL/get800.htm =============================================== Prof Donald M Hadley wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have Papyrus working in a stable mode on W2K and ME systems with over 47K > references - I am very reluctant to change. My students use it widely and > successfully. > > Does anyone out there know how to link the a whole journal to a reference > e.g. can you link a .pdf file to a reference so it can be entered while in > Papyrus and allow you to open the .pdf automatically so the article can be > read; then go back to papyrus? It would be great for this to work like an > attachment on an email. > > Could this work through putting the pathway into the comments or one of the > A, B, or C fileds. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks Dave for a great system its such a pity the development is not > continuing! > > Donald. > > Prof Donald M Hadley > Neuroradiology Department > Institute of Neurological Sciences > 1345 Govan Road > Glasgow G51 4TF > > 0141 201 2119 > 0141 201 2125 > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 07:36:11 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] once again with XP Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119061149.00b12038@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Dear listers I'm trying again with XP. I've followed various explanations of how to get copy and paste to work, but I haven't gotten it to work yet. I've tried saving the citations to the hard drive instead of the clipboard,using cite.txt or papref.txt both to the root directory c:\ or to the directory holding Papyrus. When I try the insert-file technique from the word processor (Word) I can do one paste, but thereafter, the file remains unchanged. Papyrus doesn't re-write the file, as it doesn't have rights to it again. This seems to be somewhat Word-specific. If I open c:\papref.txt in Notepad, then Papyrus can re-write the citations. So I can use Notepad as a cludgey intermediary. but if once I open c:\papref.txt in Word (even just as as insert) then Pap is frozen out of it. I've also tried running Marc Thissen's Papref v1.0 which works well under NT: it loads but does't seem to access the clipboard. From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 08:51:20 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the Word document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from Papyrus. It seems that Word may be holding on to the inserted file for purposes of tracking changes, so you can undo. I haven't figured out how to turn off UNDO to confirm this. However, here is what worked for me: have Pap write to a diskfile such as c:\papref.txt write a macro that insert file c:\papref.txt save I''ve assigned that hot key - the paste citation is as quick as using the clipboard it seems! yay! I imagine for large documents this will seem slower due to the constant saves. -john John R. Rodgers, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Immunology Room M929 One Baylor Plaza 713-798-3903 fax: 713-798-3700 email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 19 09:18:13 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: Hello, John. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the Word > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from > Papyrus. It seems that Word may be holding on to the inserted file for > purposes of tracking changes, so you can undo. > You took the words from my mouth :-) I was going to suggest something like that but I have not seen it in this context. By the way, what version of Word? My experience stops at the Office97 series whose Word was not entirely badly behaved. My wife uses Word 2000 for her PhD thesis, under a Japan-ised version of Windows Me. The amount of ill behaviour is a thing of constant wonder. Cheers, Denis From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 09:25:29 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> I've got Word97 also. I haven't tried this under later versions. -john At 10:18 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >Hello, John. > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the Word > > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from > > Papyrus. It seems that Word may be holding on to the inserted file for > > purposes of tracking changes, so you can undo. > > >You took the words from my mouth :-) I was going to suggest something >like that but I have not seen it in this context. By the way, what >version of Word? My experience stops at the Office97 series whose Word >was not entirely badly behaved. > >My wife uses Word 2000 for her PhD thesis, under a Japan-ised version of >Windows Me. The amount of ill behaviour is a thing of constant wonder. > >Cheers, >Denis > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org Mon Jan 19 09:37:25 2004 From: Thomas.Gill at ynhh.org (Thomas Gill) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word Message-ID: It also works for Word 2000. >>> jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu 1/19/04 9:25:29 AM >>> I've got Word97 also. I haven't tried this under later versions. -john At 10:18 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >Hello, John. > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the Word > > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from > > Papyrus. It seems that Word may be holding on to the inserted file for > > purposes of tracking changes, so you can undo. > > >You took the words from my mouth :-) I was going to suggest something >like that but I have not seen it in this context. By the way, what >version of Word? My experience stops at the Office97 series whose Word >was not entirely badly behaved. > >My wife uses Word 2000 for her PhD thesis, under a Japan-ised version of >Windows Me. The amount of ill behaviour is a thing of constant wonder. > >Cheers, >Denis > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l _______________________________________________ Papyrus-L mailing list Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l This message originates from Yale New Haven Health System. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If you are the intended recipient, you must maintain this message in a secure and confidential manner. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this message. Thank you. From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 19 09:42:20 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: Dear John, On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > I've got Word97 also. I haven't tried this under later versions. > -john > You have me intrigued! So I just conducted a test on my Win NT4 machine with Word from Office97. Seems to release the file just fine. Here's what I tried: a) Create a simple file in NotePad, save it and close NotePad. b) Open Word, create a new document and insert text from the above file. c) Leaving Word open, once again fire up NotePad, call up the simple text doc and add more text - saved and closed without problem. d) Insert the updated file into Word without complaint! Suggests that this may be an XP problem, don't you think? Not that much can be done about it if so :-( Maybe the demo above does not replicate all that is happening in a true setup? Cheers, Denis > > At 10:18 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: > >Hello, John. > > > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the Word > > > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 10:17:34 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Denis, Under XP I tried making a file in NotePad, saving it as a text file as c:\test.txt. Then I imported it into Word as if it were a papyrus citation. This works fine the first time through. Now- try to update and save the NotePad file- you can't save it, but you get an error message telling you so. Papyrus simply doesn't know about the error message. If I SAVE the Word file, NotePad can go forward. This replicates the whole shebang, I think. Word, probably through its UNDO function, is keeping rights to a document until it is saved. UNDO is a pretty useful function, so I wouldn't want to turn it off while editing. The simple device of saving your Word document after a citation paste solves the problem (right now at least! :)) -john At 10:42 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >Dear John, > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > I've got Word97 also. I haven't tried this under later versions. > > -john > > >You have me intrigued! So I just conducted a test on my Win NT4 >machine with Word from Office97. Seems to release the file just fine. >Here's what I tried: >a) Create a simple file in NotePad, save it and close NotePad. >b) Open Word, create a new document and insert text from the above file. >c) Leaving Word open, once again fire up NotePad, call up the simple text >doc and add more text - saved and closed without problem. >d) Insert the updated file into Word without complaint! > >Suggests that this may be an XP problem, don't you think? Not that much >can be done about it if so :-( Maybe the demo above does not replicate >all that is happening in a true setup? > >Cheers, >Denis > > > > > > At 10:18 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: > > >Hello, John. > > > > > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > > > > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save the > Word > > > > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 19 10:30:50 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: Hello again, John! On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > Denis, > Under XP I tried making a file in NotePad, saving it as a text file > as c:\test.txt. > Me too. > Then I imported it into Word as if it were a papyrus citation. > This works fine the first time through. > Assume you are using Word's Insert, File... process to do the insert, correct? This works for me and I can even have NotePad open all the while if I wish! > Now- try to update and save the NotePad file- you can't save it, but you > get an error message telling you so. Papyrus simply doesn't know about the > error message. > Here is where we diverge... my Win NT4 allows me to do any amount of editing / appending / whatever to the NotePad document, to the extent of having NotePad and Word open simultaneously and without having to do any intermediate saves in Word. > > If I SAVE the Word file, NotePad can go forward. > As above, I do not need to save the Word document. > This replicates the whole > shebang, I think. Word, probably through its UNDO function, is keeping > rights to a document until it is saved. UNDO is a pretty useful function, > so I wouldn't want to turn it off while editing. > Well, oddly enough I continue to be offered the undo functionality so I guess our Words have the same settings in that regard. Sorry to flog a dead equine, especially as you have a solution! Just that this may help tweak someone's ideas as to where to look in XP if this is in fact an XP-thing. I don't have any XP boxes to try it out. Anyway, glad you got it licked. Cheers, Denis The simple device of > saving your Word document after a citation paste solves the problem (right > now at least! :)) From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 10:36:22 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] new PubMed format how to handle the FAU field? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119093349.00b860d0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Dear Listers, This isn't really new- for perhaps the last six months Pubmed has been adding a new field with every AU field- FAU- full author name. The existing Pubmed format I'm using doesn't know how to strip these out, and I'm left with only the first author. I had a BASIC program to strip these out but it doesn't run under XP until I reprogram it.... ' Anybody know how to do this? I've never figured out how the author function works on import. -John Rodgers John R. Rodgers, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Department of Immunology Room M929 One Baylor Plaza 713-798-3903 fax: 713-798-3700 email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 10:42:41 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119094000.00b927c8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Denis- I use NT at work and have no trouble- but there I use the Thissen Papref program which means I can just use the normal ^V paste function instead of file insert. I don't see it on the web anymore- but I'd be happy to send it to you if you want. You just install it in res. memory before running Papyrus, and have Pap write to c:\papref.txt. PapRef handles the rest- automatically picks things up from the text file and installs them in the NT clipboard. -john At 11:30 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >Hello again, John! > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > Denis, > > Under XP I tried making a file in NotePad, saving it as a text file > > as c:\test.txt. > > >Me too. > > > Then I imported it into Word as if it were a papyrus citation. > > This works fine the first time through. > > >Assume you are using Word's Insert, File... process to do the insert, >correct? This works for me and I can even have NotePad open all the >while if I wish! > > > Now- try to update and save the NotePad file- you can't save it, but you > > get an error message telling you so. Papyrus simply doesn't know about the > > error message. > > > >Here is where we diverge... my Win NT4 allows me to do any amount of >editing / appending / whatever to the NotePad document, to the extent of >having NotePad and Word open simultaneously and without having to do any >intermediate saves in Word. > > > > > If I SAVE the Word file, NotePad can go forward. > > >As above, I do not need to save the Word document. > > > This replicates the >whole > > shebang, I think. Word, probably through its UNDO function, is keeping > > rights to a document until it is saved. UNDO is a pretty useful function, > > so I wouldn't want to turn it off while editing. > > >Well, oddly enough I continue to be offered the undo functionality so I >guess our Words have the same settings in that regard. > >Sorry to flog a dead equine, especially as you have a solution! Just >that this may help tweak someone's ideas as to where to look in XP if this >is in fact an XP-thing. I don't have any XP boxes to try it out. > >Anyway, glad you got it licked. >Cheers, >Denis > > The >simple device of > > saving your Word document after a citation paste solves the problem (right > > now at least! :)) > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l From kovacs at ovrisc.mdche.u-szeged.hu Mon Jan 19 12:18:57 2004 From: kovacs at ovrisc.mdche.u-szeged.hu (kovacs@ovrisc.mdche.u-szeged.hu) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119094000.00b927c8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Papyrus users, You may want to have a look at Keytext at http://www.mjmsoft.com/keytext.htm Good luck! Best wishes, Lajos Dr. Lajos KOVACS Nucleic Acids Laboratory Department of Medicinal Chemistry University of Szeged Dom ter 8. H-6720 Szeged Hungary Phone: +36 62 54 51 45 (direct) Fax: +36 62 54 59 71 (shared) E-mail: kovacs*AT*ovrisc.mdche.u-szeged.hu or kl6720*AT*yahoo.com or kl6720*AT*freemail.hu URL: http://www.mdche.u-szeged.hu/~kovacs/nal.html http://www.mdche.u-szeged.hu/~kovacs/kl.html *********************************************************** SZTE Orvosi Vegytani Intezet Nukleinsav Laboratorium Dom ter 8. 6720 Szeged On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > Denis- I use NT at work and have no trouble- but there I use the Thissen > Papref program which means I can just use the normal ^V paste function > instead of file insert. > I don't see it on the web anymore- but I'd be happy to send it to you > if you want. You just install it in res. memory before running Papyrus, > and have Pap write to c:\papref.txt. PapRef handles the rest- > automatically picks things up from the text file and installs them in the > NT clipboard. > > -john > > > At 11:30 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: > >Hello again, John! > > > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: > > > > > Denis, > > > Under XP I tried making a file in NotePad, saving it as a text file > > > as c:\test.txt. > > > > >Me too. > > > > > Then I imported it into Word as if it were a papyrus citation. > > > This works fine the first time through. > > > > >Assume you are using Word's Insert, File... process to do the insert, > >correct? This works for me and I can even have NotePad open all the > >while if I wish! > > > > > Now- try to update and save the NotePad file- you can't save it, but you > > > get an error message telling you so. Papyrus simply doesn't know about the > > > error message. > > > > > > >Here is where we diverge... my Win NT4 allows me to do any amount of > >editing / appending / whatever to the NotePad document, to the extent of > >having NotePad and Word open simultaneously and without having to do any > >intermediate saves in Word. > > > > > > > > If I SAVE the Word file, NotePad can go forward. > > > > >As above, I do not need to save the Word document. > > > > > This replicates the > >whole > > > shebang, I think. Word, probably through its UNDO function, is keeping > > > rights to a document until it is saved. UNDO is a pretty useful function, > > > so I wouldn't want to turn it off while editing. > > > > >Well, oddly enough I continue to be offered the undo functionality so I > >guess our Words have the same settings in that regard. > > > >Sorry to flog a dead equine, especially as you have a solution! Just > >that this may help tweak someone's ideas as to where to look in XP if this > >is in fact an XP-thing. I don't have any XP boxes to try it out. > > > >Anyway, glad you got it licked. > >Cheers, > >Denis > > > > The > >simple device of > > > saving your Word document after a citation paste solves the problem (right > > > now at least! :)) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Papyrus-L mailing list > >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Papyrus-L mailing list > Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > From jan.herrmann at cetacea.de Mon Jan 19 12:34:24 2004 From: jan.herrmann at cetacea.de (Jan Herrmann) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] new PubMed format how to handle the FAU field? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119093349.00b860d0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119093349.00b860d0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: Dear John, I am mainly using Papyrus for Macintosh, but the formats issue is much the same. Isn't the Pubmed format available at the RSD website an updated one? http://www.researchsoftwaredesign.com/ftp/pubmed.flb Have you tried that? Otherwise, I'd recommend to duplicate you existing Pubmed format and change the duplicate according to your wishes. To eliminate the FAU lines, I have inserted a line like "F[discard]", which sorts out any line beginning with "F". That should be of help. It wasn't too complicated to understand the format code and to adapt some changes. Now I am importing DOIs, URLs and Adresses as well from PubMed. Have a look here: http://www.cetacea.de/science/papyrus/pubmed.gif The look might be different in the DOS version, but it should be more or less the same. If Dave is busy with other stuff, maybe there's another member of the list who is able to adapt the PapDOS formats and share it with the list. I could put it on our website so that everybody can download it. Hope that helps, Jan > This isn't really new- for perhaps the last six months Pubmed has >been adding a new field with every AU field- FAU- full author name. >The existing Pubmed format I'm using doesn't know how to strip these >out, and I'm left with only the first author. > I had a BASIC program to strip these out but it doesn't run under >XP until I reprogram it.... >' Anybody know how to do this? I've never figured out how the >author function works on import. > -John Rodgers > -- --> jan.herrmann -at - cetacea.de From lcampbell at ocean.tamu.edu Mon Jan 19 12:44:37 2004 From: lcampbell at ocean.tamu.edu (Lisa Campbell) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040119114124.0107d448@ocean.tamu.edu> I have no problem with papref or PAP under XP (although XP is extremely frustrating overall). Did you put PAP in its own directory under c:\-- i.e. NOT in Program Files? You have to be administrator to alter files in the Program Files directory. At 09:17 AM 1/19/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Denis, > Under XP I tried making a file in NotePad, saving it as a text file > as c:\test.txt. >Then I imported it into Word as if it were a papyrus citation. > This works fine the first time through. >Now- try to update and save the NotePad file- you can't save it, but you >get an error message telling you so. Papyrus simply doesn't know about >the error message. > >If I SAVE the Word file, NotePad can go forward. This replicates the >whole shebang, I think. Word, probably through its UNDO function, is >keeping rights to a document until it is saved. UNDO is a pretty useful >function, so I wouldn't want to turn it off while editing. The simple >device of saving your Word document after a citation paste solves the >problem (right now at least! :)) >-john > >At 10:42 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >>Dear John, >> >>On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: >> >> > I've got Word97 also. I haven't tried this under later versions. >> > -john >> > >>You have me intrigued! So I just conducted a test on my Win NT4 >>machine with Word from Office97. Seems to release the file just fine. >>Here's what I tried: >>a) Create a simple file in NotePad, save it and close NotePad. >>b) Open Word, create a new document and insert text from the above file. >>c) Leaving Word open, once again fire up NotePad, call up the simple text >>doc and add more text - saved and closed without problem. >>d) Insert the updated file into Word without complaint! >> >>Suggests that this may be an XP problem, don't you think? Not that much >>can be done about it if so :-( Maybe the demo above does not replicate >>all that is happening in a true setup? >> >>Cheers, >>Denis >> >> >> > >> > At 10:18 PM 1/19/2004 +0800, you wrote: >> > >Hello, John. >> > > >> > >On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, John Rodgers wrote: >> > > >> > > > re. problem citing to the clipboard when using Word. If I save >> the Word >> > > > document after an insert file, then I can update the papref.txt from >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Papyrus-L mailing list >>Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l ******************************************************************************************* Dr. Lisa Campbell office: 979-845-5706 Associate Professor of Oceanography and Biology lab: 979-862-7664 Department of Oceanography FAX: 979-845-6331 3146 TAMU Texas A&M University College Station, TX 77843-3146 http://oceanography.tamu.edu From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Mon Jan 19 12:55:41 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] more on XP - troubleshooting clipboard/Word - experiments with NotePad In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040119114124.0107d448@ocean.tamu.edu> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119091202.00b12780@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119065911.00b24778@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <5.2.1.1.2.20040119082452.00b644f8@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040119114914.00ba9910@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Lisa Campbell wrote: >I have no problem with papref or PAP under XP (although XP is extremely >frustrating overall). >Did you put PAP in its own directory under c:\-- i.e. NOT in Program Files? >You have to be administrator to alter files in the Program Files directory. Yes- I have Pap installed in c:\pap . -john From nutncons at netlink.com.au Sat Feb 21 17:46:26 2004 From: nutncons at netlink.com.au (YColeman) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters Message-ID: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final document. The new references are also not added to the reference compilation under List. I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. Yvonne Coleman Founding Principal Nutrition Consultants Australia PO Box 16 Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. Australia P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/papyrus-l/attachments/20040222/a53b3d51/attachment.htm From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Sat Feb 21 20:08:15 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters In-Reply-To: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040221190607.01c7cec0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Dear Yvonne, I take it the papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone from your working document? Or are you saying that they are there, but Papyrus no longer is recognizing them? -JOhn Rodgers At 04:46 PM 2/21/2004, you wrote: >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I >inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of >chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however >after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final >document. The new references are also not added to the reference >compilation under List. > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > John R. Rodgers, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Immunology Room M929 Baylor College of Medicine One Baylor Plaza Houston, Texas 770303 phone: 713-798-3903 fax: 713-798-3700 email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Sat Feb 21 23:45:39 2004 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters In-Reply-To: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040221233204.03536f78@mailbox10.utcc.utoronto.ca> At 09:46 AM 2/22/2004 +1100, you wrote: >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I am confused here. Is the problem the database, or the manuscript? As far as I know, one doesn't split the database into chapters. (How large is it?) I assume you are using Word 2000, which should work fine with Papyrus. > I inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect > of chapters. Did you do this within Word? Which aspect was disabled? >It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however after that >all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final document. >The new references are also not added to the reference compilation under List. Check the Papyrus manual, but in general, you handle multiple chapters by setting up a group, and then text extracting each new chapter into the same group, without clearing it. If you do that, List should work fine. (We used this for a book which we just finished.) This is sounding like it might be a Microsoft interface issue. (I assume you are using the Dos version, not the Mac one.) When it is text extracting, Papyrus doesn't touch the old document; it processes it to create a new document with the same name, but a different extension. Unless you tell it otherwise, it assigns the extension .new. This in turn usually confuses Word, which works on the assumption that it only needs to bother about files with the extension .doc. This means that if you click on the file, Windows won't know what to do with it, and if you are looking for the document within Word, it won't find it unless you specifically tell it to look for all files, not just the ones with .doc extensions. Word can open it, but you have to be very specific. (It is also a good idea to use short file names - another problem might be if you are using long file names where the first six or so characters are the same. Under those circumstances, you may find that the short file names are replacing the earlier chapters. Again, I'd need more details, but the first thing I'd do is work on copies with short and unique file names. This doesn't sound like a Papyrus problem, and so I'm not surprised that reinstalling doesn't make a difference. Let me know if this helps. Raisa Deber > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. Th > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > Raisa B. Deber, PhD Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation University of Toronto 12 Queens Park Crescent West, 2nd Floor Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A8 Canada phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber@utoronto.ca From nutncons at netlink.com.au Sun Feb 22 02:52:46 2004 From: nutncons at netlink.com.au (YColeman) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> <6.0.1.1.2.20040221190607.01c7cec0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <001f01c3f918$dce4f670$21e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Dear John Rodgers The papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone from the working document, and nothing is in the final document. Yvonne Coleman Founding Principal Nutrition Consultants Australia PO Box 16 Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. Australia P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital copies and destroy any paper copies. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Rodgers To: papyrus-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Chapters Dear Yvonne, I take it the papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone from your working document? Or are you saying that they are there, but Papyrus no longer is recognizing them? -JOhn Rodgers At 04:46 PM 2/21/2004, you wrote: >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I >inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of >chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however >after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final >document. The new references are also not added to the reference >compilation under List. > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > John R. 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URL: http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/papyrus-l/attachments/20040222/a40f530d/attachment.htm From jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu Sun Feb 22 07:41:09 2004 From: jrodgers at bcm.tmc.edu (John Rodgers) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters In-Reply-To: <001f01c3f918$dce4f670$21e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> <6.0.1.1.2.20040221190607.01c7cec0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> <001f01c3f918$dce4f670$21e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040222063740.01c1e220@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> It sounds as if Papyrus named its output document with the same name as the old one, but somehow failed to insert the new text. I don't use EndNote- but is it the case that Word has a way of hiding the Endnote code? Maybe you can try displaying the text in a different screen format (Under View)? -JOhn At 01:52 AM 2/22/2004, you wrote: >Dear John Rodgers > >The papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from the working document, and nothing is in the final document. > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Rodgers >To: >papyrus-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Chapters > > >Dear Yvonne, > I take it the papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from your working document? Or are you saying that they are there, but >Papyrus no longer is recognizing them? > -JOhn Rodgers > >At 04:46 PM 2/21/2004, you wrote: > >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I > >inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of > >chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however > >after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final > >document. The new references are also not added to the reference > >compilation under List. > > > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on > >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. > > > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > > > >Yvonne Coleman > >Founding Principal > >Nutrition Consultants Australia > >PO Box 16 > >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. > >Australia > >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > > > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. > >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party > >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or > >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in > >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital > >copies and destroy any paper copies. > >Thank you. > > > > > >John R. Rodgers, PhD >Assistant Professor >Department of Immunology >Room M929 >Baylor College of Medicine >One Baylor Plaza >Houston, Texas 770303 >phone: 713-798-3903 >fax: 713-798-3700 >email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l John R. Rodgers, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Immunology Room M929 Baylor College of Medicine One Baylor Plaza Houston, Texas 770303 phone: 713-798-3903 fax: 713-798-3700 email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Sun Feb 22 11:43:41 2004 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters In-Reply-To: <001f01c3f918$dce4f670$21e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> <6.0.1.1.2.20040221190607.01c7cec0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040222113328.0354f048@mailbox10.utcc.utoronto.ca> At 06:52 PM 2/22/2004 +1100, YColeman wrote: >Dear John Rodgers > >The papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from the working document, and nothing is in the final document. Two things I'd check. First, what is the name/path of the working document, and what name are you telling Papyrus to use for the output document? Note that Papyrus, as a Dos program, is using the short file names derived from long file names; if they aren't unique, then Windows may be overwriting things. In short, the working document should still have the %%; after text extract, it is the output document which would be missing them. So it sounds like you somehow overwrote the working document with the output document. What happens if you do a test with a copy of the working document, renamed to have a short file name (e.g., chap1.doc)? And specify that the output file is named something like chapt1.new, or even chapt1n.doc? (If you specified chapt1.doc, then it might indeed overwrite, unless Dave had built in more error checking than I think likely.) Second, what output format are you using with the text extract? Sounds like you may be specifying an output format which is blank, or otherwise not giving you what you want. If you specified a Vancouver type output, you'd get numbers in the text where the references were. An APA one would give you author names,dates in brackets. But you only get the actual list of references from specifying LIST, using the right output format, into another file. You then merge it where you want the reference list to be. It should be explained in the free manuals, under Text Extract. Hope this helps. Raisa Deber > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Rodgers >To: >papyrus-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Chapters > > >Dear Yvonne, > I take it the papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from your working document? Or are you saying that they are there, but >Papyrus no longer is recognizing them? > -JOhn Rodgers > >At 04:46 PM 2/21/2004, you wrote: > >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I > >inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of > >chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however > >after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final > >document. The new references are also not added to the reference > >compilation under List. > > > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on > >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. > > > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > > > >Yvonne Coleman > >Founding Principal > >Nutrition Consultants Australia > >PO Box 16 > >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. > >Australia > >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > > > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. > >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party > >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or > >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in > >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital > >copies and destroy any paper copies. > >Thank you. > > > > > >John R. Rodgers, PhD >Assistant Professor >Department of Immunology >Room M929 >Baylor College of Medicine >One Baylor Plaza >Houston, Texas 770303 >phone: 713-798-3903 >fax: 713-798-3700 >email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa B. Deber, PhD Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation University of Toronto 12 Queens Park Crescent West, 2nd Floor Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A8 Canada phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber@utoronto.ca From raisa.deber at utoronto.ca Sun Feb 22 11:43:41 2004 From: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca (Raisa Deber) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Chapters In-Reply-To: <001f01c3f918$dce4f670$21e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> References: <005001c3f8cc$8b901bc0$30e33ecb@nutritio9cxwrj> <6.0.1.1.2.20040221190607.01c7cec0@faculty.bcm.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040222113328.0354f048@mailbox10.utcc.utoronto.ca> At 06:52 PM 2/22/2004 +1100, YColeman wrote: >Dear John Rodgers > >The papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from the working document, and nothing is in the final document. Two things I'd check. First, what is the name/path of the working document, and what name are you telling Papyrus to use for the output document? Note that Papyrus, as a Dos program, is using the short file names derived from long file names; if they aren't unique, then Windows may be overwriting things. In short, the working document should still have the %%; after text extract, it is the output document which would be missing them. So it sounds like you somehow overwrote the working document with the output document. What happens if you do a test with a copy of the working document, renamed to have a short file name (e.g., chap1.doc)? And specify that the output file is named something like chapt1.new, or even chapt1n.doc? (If you specified chapt1.doc, then it might indeed overwrite, unless Dave had built in more error checking than I think likely.) Second, what output format are you using with the text extract? Sounds like you may be specifying an output format which is blank, or otherwise not giving you what you want. If you specified a Vancouver type output, you'd get numbers in the text where the references were. An APA one would give you author names,dates in brackets. But you only get the actual list of references from specifying LIST, using the right output format, into another file. You then merge it where you want the reference list to be. It should be explained in the free manuals, under Text Extract. Hope this helps. Raisa Deber > >Yvonne Coleman >Founding Principal >Nutrition Consultants Australia >PO Box 16 >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. >Australia >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital >copies and destroy any paper copies. >Thank you. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: John Rodgers >To: >papyrus-l@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com > >Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Chapters > > >Dear Yvonne, > I take it the papyrus numbers (eg %%12345(Adam &Eve,-4567)%%) are gone >from your working document? Or are you saying that they are there, but >Papyrus no longer is recognizing them? > -JOhn Rodgers > >At 04:46 PM 2/21/2004, you wrote: > >I have a database that is sufficiently large to necessitate chapters. I > >inadvertently hit key(s) on the keyboard and have disabled some aspect of > >chapters. It is fine with chapter one and sometimes chapter two, however > >after that all the references are extracted but not replaced in the final > >document. The new references are also not added to the reference > >compilation under List. > > > >I have deleted papyrus and reinstalled with no change; and have run it on > >both Word 2000 and Word XP with no difference. > > > >I seek advice from the collective wisdom of the list-serve. > > > >Yvonne Coleman > >Founding Principal > >Nutrition Consultants Australia > >PO Box 16 > >Hawthorn. Vic. 3122. > >Australia > >P/F: (61) 3 - 9818 5876 > > > >Privilege and Confidentiality Notice. > >This e-mail and any attachments to it are intended only for the party > >to whom they are addressed. They may contain privileged and/or > >confidential information. If you have received this transmission in > >error, please notify the sender immediately and delete any digital > >copies and destroy any paper copies. > >Thank you. > > > > > >John R. Rodgers, PhD >Assistant Professor >Department of Immunology >Room M929 >Baylor College of Medicine >One Baylor Plaza >Houston, Texas 770303 >phone: 713-798-3903 >fax: 713-798-3700 >email: jrodgers@bcm.tmc.edu > > > >_______________________________________________ >Papyrus-L mailing list >Papyrus-L@ResearchSoftwareDesign.com >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/papyrus-l Raisa B. Deber, PhD Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation University of Toronto 12 Queens Park Crescent West, 2nd Floor Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A8 Canada phone: (416) 978-8366 fax: (416) 978-7350 e-mail: raisa.deber@utoronto.ca From jlbaeten at wisc.edu Tue Mar 9 15:23:30 2004 From: jlbaeten at wisc.edu (JENNIFER LYNN BAETEN) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Endnote/Papyrus Questions Message-ID: <7b52227b2c09.7b2c097b5222@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Dear Roberto, I was looking for ways to export Papyrus to Endnote when I found these instructions. I have a few questions on how to do all of this. Could you answer them? I put them in parenthesis after the directions. A most sincere thanks, Jen 1) Go to Endnote webpage and download the export format Papyrus to Endnote. (Where is this located on the website?) 2) Go to Papyrus and set the new format as an export format (How do I set the new format? What is the new format referring to?) 3) Endnote has instructions as to how to format the list that will become the source for Endnote to import your references. (where are these located on the site?) 4) You will only be able to export the references, keywords and abstracts, not your notes. 5) Endnote does not say this, but it is important: When you generate your Papyrus PAPDATA export document,it will be better if you produce a Word document. You save it as a Word document. Then re-save it as a .txt document. This PAPDATA.TXT will then be imported in Endnote. 6) Use the Endnote facility to import reference databases. 7) Check your references. You should not loose anything, there should not be any mispelling added by this process. The Endnote website contains a detailed description of this process (WHERE?). My only contribution I guess, is that I noticed that when I generated the PAPDATA.TXT directly from Papyrus, I got lots of mispellings in my endnote database. From anton at unity.ncsu.edu Thu Mar 11 15:47:58 2004 From: anton at unity.ncsu.edu (Anton Callaway) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Open Sourcing Papyrus? Message-ID: <4050D07E.5010603@unity.ncsu.edu> Are there any plans to release the Papyrus source code under a GNU, BSD, or other open lisence? It is such excellent software already, that it seems like it would be a nice way to keep it current. Anton -- Anton S. Callaway, Ph.D. Department of Botany North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7612 Ph. (919)515-7165 Fax (919)515-3436 From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Sun Mar 14 16:33:15 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Endnote/Papyrus Questions In-Reply-To: <7b52227b2c09.7b2c097b5222@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <7b52227b2c09.7b2c097b5222@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: Dear Jennifer, On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, JENNIFER LYNN BAETEN wrote: > Dear Roberto, > > I was looking for ways to export Papyrus to Endnote when I found these instructions. I have a few questions on how to do all of this. Could you answer them? I put them in parenthesis after the directions. > > A most sincere thanks, > Jen > > 1) Go to Endnote webpage and download the export format Papyrus to > Endnote. (Where is this located on the website?) > The conversion utilities now appear to be located here... http://www.endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp The conversion utilities are not easily found; I cheated and did a search of their technical database :-) > 2) Go to Papyrus and set the new format as an export format >(How do I set the new format? What is the new format referring to?) > There are instructions on that website but basically this is "listing" your database in "Endnote" format so you do the usual Papyrus things like List from beginning to end using whatever format (in this case the Endnote format. > 3) Endnote has instructions as to how to format the list that will > become the source for Endnote to import your references. > (where are these located on the site?) > As above. Hope this helps, Denis From dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au Sun Mar 14 16:41:08 2004 From: dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au (Denis Brown) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:31:53 2004 Subject: [Papyrus-L] Open Sourcing Papyrus? In-Reply-To: <4050D07E.5010603@unity.ncsu.edu> References: <4050D07E.5010603@unity.ncsu.edu> Message-ID: Dear Anton, On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Anton Callaway wrote: > Are there any plans to release the Papyrus source code under a GNU, BSD, > or other open lisence? > > It is such excellent software already, that it seems like it would be a > nice way to keep it current. > > Several users including myself asked about this quite some time ago because it does seem like a good idea and as you say it is an EXCELLENT piece of software. I have the reply from Dave on file (at the office) and I can dig it up if necessary but in summary, there was a desire, understandably, to maintain the intellectual propety and the code, arising from Digital's VMS days and ported to DOS/MAC was highly complex. I imagine that another and non-trivial aspect would be that if the code was to go Open Source it would potentially create headaches for the support staff trying to resolve "errors" caused by unwitting code modifications in sensitive areas of the code - I mean no offence there to OS programmers, I can see it from the delevopers' POV. Hope this helps and I'm sure if the situation changes we will be kept informed. Cheers, Denis