From jcweston at kingston.net  Thu Jul 12 13:16:53 2007
From: jcweston at kingston.net (JC Weston)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:16:53 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5
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	<6.1.2.0.2.20070619210440.03381790@mail.nhrc.net>
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Yes Jeff, we still have a problem with the link receiver audio not being 
muted when the main repeater  is active. We are running the controller in 
"transmit"  mode  which from the NHRC-5 manual states "
Set Link Port Transmit

Mode

When enabled (1), configures the link port into

"Transmit Mode." In this mode, the link receive

audio is transmitted over the main repeater, and

the main repeater's receive audio is transmitted

over the link.

During this operaton what appears to be happening is the link receiver audio 
is not being muted when the Main repeater CAS is active. Therefore we need 
to know how the NHRC-5 accomplishes this in "Transmit mode. Ie....what would 
be the correct group switches to set or not set to achieve transmit mode 
with the NHRC-5. Perhaps we have an incorrect switch set or not set in one 
of the other groups?

Note that we a using 4 Phoenix Radios in our setup. 1 radio as XMIT and 1 
radio as RCV for the main repeater. 1 Radio as XMIT and 1 Radio as RCV for 
the link Repeater. Also they are wired as per the instructions on pages 6 & 
7 of the NHRC-5 Manual. The firmware version in the controller chip is 1.03. 
Perhaps the chip in the controller is malfunctioning in which case a 
replacement would be needed.

In summary we need to be able to operate in the equivilent of "Transmit 
Mode" One receiver audio being muted depending on
which way the traffic is moving. ie from the main repeater thru the link, or 
the opposite, from the link receive thru the main repeater.

I hope there is enough info for you to assist in straightning us out here 
Jeff. If not then perhaps you could supply a phone number and time you 
couold be reached.

Thanks Jeff..!!

P.S. We also use an NHRC 4 controller,version 1.03 in another system. It 
states in the NHRC-4 manual  group 3 switches that there is a switch 
provision to set Port priority....In the NHRC-5 the same switch says the 
switch is for CTCSS all quite confusing in the book of words.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Otterson" <jeff at nhrc.net>
To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" <nhrc-user at nhrc.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5


> Hi,
>
> Is your problem fixed, or do you still need help?
>
> Jeff
>
> At 09:59 PM 6/19/2007, you wrote:
>>Yes it seems to be a feedback..as I discribed previously. To avoid this I 
>>am told when using the NHRC 4 controller the main repeater port must have 
>>priority over the link port. In this case, using the NHRC 5 controller. 
>>There is no apparent method of designating port priority. I would appear 
>>that this has been taken care of by the design of the controller board.
>>Thanks for the  reply Jeff..!!
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Otterson" <jeff at nhrc.net>
>>To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" <nhrc-user at nhrc.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:24 PM
>>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5
>>
>>
>>>"Squealing?"
>>>
>>>Do you mean feedback?
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>At 02:13 PM 6/19/2007, you wrote:
>>>>         Recently I have purchased an NHRC_5 controller from NHRC. From 
>>>> past experience using NHRC-4 controllers it has been noted that the 
>>>> main repeater has to have priority over the link port . This function 
>>>> is done when setting the nhrc-4 controller up on its initial install. 
>>>> Upon installing the new NHRC-5 controller on a linked repeater on our 
>>>> system we are experiencing severe squeeling or feedback similar to that 
>>>> which would occur with the NHRC-4 controller if the main repeater port 
>>>> Has not been given priority. There is no reference to port priority in 
>>>> the the NHRC-5 manual so we have assumed that the new logic of the 
>>>> board takes care of any port priority issues. Can anyone shed some 
>>>> light on this subject. It should be noted that all cavities and related 
>>>> items have been rechecked with an IRF scope and all seems to be in 
>>>> order.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks so much for time an help folks.
>>>>
>>>>John ..VE3OAX
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>NHRC-user mailing list
>>>>NHRC-user at nhrc.net
>>>>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user
>>>
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>>>
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From jeff at nhrc.net  Fri Jul 13 20:01:00 2007
From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:01:00 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5
In-Reply-To: <001f01c7c4a8$90987990$af7ad1d8@doctor5729a0df>
References: <001d01c7b29d$9f22b510$4a7ad1d8@doctor5729a0df>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070619202419.03381790@mail.nhrc.net>
	<009a01c7b2de$af3e5490$4a7ad1d8@doctor5729a0df>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070619210440.03381790@mail.nhrc.net>
	<001f01c7c4a8$90987990$af7ad1d8@doctor5729a0df>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070713195946.03ae91b0@mail.nhrc.net>

Hi,

There is no port priority in NHRC-5.  We did not think anyone was using 
that feature and did not implement it in NHRC-5.

Jeff



At 01:16 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote:
>Yes Jeff, we still have a problem with the link receiver audio not being 
>muted when the main repeater  is active. We are running the controller in 
>"transmit"  mode  which from the NHRC-5 manual states "
>Set Link Port Transmit
>
>Mode
>
>When enabled (1), configures the link port into
>
>"Transmit Mode." In this mode, the link receive
>
>audio is transmitted over the main repeater, and
>
>the main repeater's receive audio is transmitted
>
>over the link.
>
>During this operaton what appears to be happening is the link receiver 
>audio is not being muted when the Main repeater CAS is active. Therefore 
>we need to know how the NHRC-5 accomplishes this in "Transmit mode. 
>Ie....what would be the correct group switches to set or not set to 
>achieve transmit mode with the NHRC-5. Perhaps we have an incorrect switch 
>set or not set in one of the other groups?
>
>Note that we a using 4 Phoenix Radios in our setup. 1 radio as XMIT and 1 
>radio as RCV for the main repeater. 1 Radio as XMIT and 1 Radio as RCV for 
>the link Repeater. Also they are wired as per the instructions on pages 6 
>& 7 of the NHRC-5 Manual. The firmware version in the controller chip is 
>1.03. Perhaps the chip in the controller is malfunctioning in which case a 
>replacement would be needed.
>
>In summary we need to be able to operate in the equivilent of "Transmit 
>Mode" One receiver audio being muted depending on
>which way the traffic is moving. ie from the main repeater thru the link, 
>or the opposite, from the link receive thru the main repeater.
>
>I hope there is enough info for you to assist in straightning us out here 
>Jeff. If not then perhaps you could supply a phone number and time you 
>couold be reached.
>
>Thanks Jeff..!!
>
>P.S. We also use an NHRC 4 controller,version 1.03 in another system. It 
>states in the NHRC-4 manual  group 3 switches that there is a switch 
>provision to set Port priority....In the NHRC-5 the same switch says the 
>switch is for CTCSS all quite confusing in the book of words.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Otterson" <jeff at nhrc.net>
>To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" <nhrc-user at nhrc.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Is your problem fixed, or do you still need help?
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>At 09:59 PM 6/19/2007, you wrote:
>>>Yes it seems to be a feedback..as I discribed previously. To avoid this 
>>>I am told when using the NHRC 4 controller the main repeater port must 
>>>have priority over the link port. In this case, using the NHRC 5 
>>>controller. There is no apparent method of designating port priority. I 
>>>would appear that this has been taken care of by the design of the 
>>>controller board.
>>>Thanks for the  reply Jeff..!!
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Otterson" <jeff at nhrc.net>
>>>To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" <nhrc-user at nhrc.net>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:24 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] NHRC-5
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Squealing?"
>>>>
>>>>Do you mean feedback?
>>>>
>>>>Jeff
>>>>
>>>>At 02:13 PM 6/19/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>         Recently I have purchased an NHRC_5 controller from NHRC. 
>>>>>  From past experience using NHRC-4 controllers it has been noted that 
>>>>> the main repeater has to have priority over the link port . This 
>>>>> function is done when setting the nhrc-4 controller up on its initial 
>>>>> install. Upon installing the new NHRC-5 controller on a linked 
>>>>> repeater on our system we are experiencing severe squeeling or 
>>>>> feedback similar to that which would occur with the NHRC-4 controller 
>>>>> if the main repeater port Has not been given priority. There is no 
>>>>> reference to port priority in the the NHRC-5 manual so we have 
>>>>> assumed that the new logic of the board takes care of any port 
>>>>> priority issues. Can anyone shed some light on this subject. It 
>>>>> should be noted that all cavities and related items have been 
>>>>> rechecked with an IRF scope and all seems to be in order.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks so much for time an help folks.
>>>>>
>>>>>John ..VE3OAX
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>NHRC-user mailing list
>>>>>NHRC-user at nhrc.net
>>>>>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sun Jul 15 21:33:25 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:33:25 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] Problem
Message-ID: <000c01c7c749$4df09160$0401a8c0@mainpc>

I am having a problem with an NHRC-3 controlled repeater.
 
I have an NHRC-3 connected to a GE Master Exec II. In the morning hours the
repeater works fine, but in the afternoon and late evening hours, it acts a
little goofy. I don;t know if it is heat related or not. the repeater is
located in my attic. It is 83 degrees outside. I went up into the attic and
estimated the temp to be somewhere between 100 and 110 degrees F.
 
The problem is during the ID-2. The repeater waits for the timer and begins
to do the voice announcement I have programmed, "KW7HAM repeater." However,
it says, "k, k" like a stutter, then goes into Morse code like someone keyed
up on the IDer. This happens consistently every nine minutes, which is the
setting I have the timer at. The repeater is PL'd at 136.5 and I have
listened on the input for noise and cannot hear any. Any ideas or things to
try?
 
- Garrett

From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sun Jul 15 22:25:17 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:25:17 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] disregard the problem..found it
Message-ID: <001301c7c750$8d4ad030$0401a8c0@mainpc>

Disregard the problem I had with the controller. Found out another repeater
was on the same frequency. No IDer, courtesy tone, or PL tone. Got it shut
down and all is well in the world!
 
- Garrett

From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sat Jul 21 14:29:14 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:29:14 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
Message-ID: <000701c7cbc5$0dd1fd50$0501a8c0@mainpc>

My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am
looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would
re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of time
be the equivalent?
 
Thanks,
 
- Garrett, KD6KPC

From jeff at nhrc.net  Sat Jul 21 14:52:46 2007
From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:52:46 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <000701c7cbc5$0dd1fd50$0501a8c0@mainpc>
References: <000701c7cbc5$0dd1fd50$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070721145203.041cb208@mail.nhrc.net>

Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper off.

Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however, 
lightning can cause some problems.

Jeff



At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am
>looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would
>re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of time
>be the equivalent?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>_______________________________________________
>NHRC-user mailing list
>NHRC-user at nhrc.net
>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user


From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sat Jul 21 15:54:24 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:54:24 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070721145203.041cb208@mail.nhrc.net>
Message-ID: <000001c7cbd0$f3485b30$0501a8c0@mainpc>

I had mentioned the problem before and thought I found the problem, but the
problem has resurfaced and is occurring consistently.

The repeater is identifying itself every 10 minutes, and not remaining
quiet, so it's the second Ider that is IDing. But no sooner than the
repeater says the first letter of the call sign, it acts as though someone
has keyed up on it and it switches to CW. This has been going on for a
couple of days now. I am not hearing any signals on the input and the
repeater is not being used between ID's. The repeater is generally pretty
quiet.

I figure the controller has had enough. It is stored in the attic and I
first noticed the problem when the temp rose into the 90's (attic temp over
100 somewhere). Probably exceeded the maximum recommended temp.

- Garrett, KD6KPC

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:53 AM
To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper off.

Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however, 
lightning can cause some problems.

Jeff



At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am 
>looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would 
>re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of 
>time be the equivalent?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC _______________________________________________
>NHRC-user mailing list
>NHRC-user at nhrc.net
>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user

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From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sat Jul 21 16:03:50 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:03:50 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <000001c7cbd0$f3485b30$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <000101c7cbd2$44ae9010$0501a8c0@mainpc>

I should add that when I key up on the repeater for just a 1/2 second and
release, I get a squelch crash back on the input that is equally as long. If
I hold down for one second or longer, I don't get that. I don't know if that
is new as I have never tried that. But it is similar to what I hear when the
repeater ID's. Seems like this pulse back would be responsible for the
controller seeing that as another key up. I just don't know if the radio (a
GE Mastr Exec II) or the controller is causing this pulse back on the input.

- Garrett, KD6KPC

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:54 PM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


I had mentioned the problem before and thought I found the problem, but the
problem has resurfaced and is occurring consistently.

The repeater is identifying itself every 10 minutes, and not remaining
quiet, so it's the second Ider that is IDing. But no sooner than the
repeater says the first letter of the call sign, it acts as though someone
has keyed up on it and it switches to CW. This has been going on for a
couple of days now. I am not hearing any signals on the input and the
repeater is not being used between ID's. The repeater is generally pretty
quiet.

I figure the controller has had enough. It is stored in the attic and I
first noticed the problem when the temp rose into the 90's (attic temp over
100 somewhere). Probably exceeded the maximum recommended temp.

- Garrett, KD6KPC

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:53 AM
To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper off.

Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however, 
lightning can cause some problems.

Jeff



At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am
>looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would 
>re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of 
>time be the equivalent?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC _______________________________________________
>NHRC-user mailing list
>NHRC-user at nhrc.net http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user

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From jeff at nhrc.net  Sun Jul 22 09:14:57 2007
From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:14:57 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <000101c7cbd2$44ae9010$0501a8c0@mainpc>
References: <000001c7cbd0$f3485b30$0501a8c0@mainpc>
	<000101c7cbd2$44ae9010$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070722091425.029fd5e8@mail.nhrc.net>

Most likely it is your repeater getting back into itself.

Put the transmitter into a dummy load and see what happens.

Jeff



At 04:03 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>I should add that when I key up on the repeater for just a 1/2 second and
>release, I get a squelch crash back on the input that is equally as long. If
>I hold down for one second or longer, I don't get that. I don't know if that
>is new as I have never tried that. But it is similar to what I hear when the
>repeater ID's. Seems like this pulse back would be responsible for the
>controller seeing that as another key up. I just don't know if the radio (a
>GE Mastr Exec II) or the controller is causing this pulse back on the input.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
>Behalf Of KD6KPC
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:54 PM
>To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>I had mentioned the problem before and thought I found the problem, but the
>problem has resurfaced and is occurring consistently.
>
>The repeater is identifying itself every 10 minutes, and not remaining
>quiet, so it's the second Ider that is IDing. But no sooner than the
>repeater says the first letter of the call sign, it acts as though someone
>has keyed up on it and it switches to CW. This has been going on for a
>couple of days now. I am not hearing any signals on the input and the
>repeater is not being used between ID's. The repeater is generally pretty
>quiet.
>
>I figure the controller has had enough. It is stored in the attic and I
>first noticed the problem when the temp rose into the 90's (attic temp over
>100 somewhere). Probably exceeded the maximum recommended temp.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:53 AM
>To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper off.
>
>Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however,
>lightning can cause some problems.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
> >My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am
> >looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would
> >re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of
> >time be the equivalent?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >- Garrett, KD6KPC _______________________________________________
> >NHRC-user mailing list
> >NHRC-user at nhrc.net http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user
>
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>
>
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From TErtl at e1b.org  Sun Jul 22 10:03:03 2007
From: TErtl at e1b.org (TErtl at e1b.org)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:03:03 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] Theodore Ertl is out of the office.
Message-ID: <OF22DDE5EA.2698B1A8-ON85257320.004D2F51-85257320.004D2F51@e1b.org>


I will be out of the office starting  07/18/2007 and will not return until
07/23/2007.

I will respond to your message when I return.


From n0fpe at cox.net  Sun Jul 22 11:23:41 2007
From: n0fpe at cox.net (Dan)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 8:23:41 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller
Message-ID: <24233861.1185117821201.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net>


Is NHRC concidering a controller that plugs into the card card of a Mastr II base or repeater station? I see there is one on the market now by someone else. I am a NHRC fan but the plug and play is nice and now that Mastr II base/repeater cabinets seem to be more plentiful I might have to try one of the other guys! I have used NHRC is 3 converted mobiles but now I have a set of 100watt base/repeater cabinets.
Thnaks for a good product guys!!

Dan/N?FPE

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From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sun Jul 22 13:32:56 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:32:56 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070722091425.029fd5e8@mail.nhrc.net>
Message-ID: <000401c7cc86$5ae8f910$0501a8c0@mainpc>

I tested the pulse back signal range and found that I must be within 100
yards of the repeater to hear it, so it's very weak. I will check all the
connections to make sure they are tight, but I have no idea what would cause
that and how to fix it.

- Garrett

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:15 AM
To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


Most likely it is your repeater getting back into itself.

Put the transmitter into a dummy load and see what happens.

Jeff



At 04:03 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>I should add that when I key up on the repeater for just a 1/2 second 
>and release, I get a squelch crash back on the input that is equally as 
>long. If I hold down for one second or longer, I don't get that. I 
>don't know if that is new as I have never tried that. But it is similar 
>to what I hear when the repeater ID's. Seems like this pulse back would 
>be responsible for the controller seeing that as another key up. I just 
>don't know if the radio (a GE Mastr Exec II) or the controller is 
>causing this pulse back on the input.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On 
>Behalf Of KD6KPC
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:54 PM
>To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>I had mentioned the problem before and thought I found the problem, but 
>the problem has resurfaced and is occurring consistently.
>
>The repeater is identifying itself every 10 minutes, and not remaining 
>quiet, so it's the second Ider that is IDing. But no sooner than the 
>repeater says the first letter of the call sign, it acts as though 
>someone has keyed up on it and it switches to CW. This has been going 
>on for a couple of days now. I am not hearing any signals on the input 
>and the repeater is not being used between ID's. The repeater is 
>generally pretty quiet.
>
>I figure the controller has had enough. It is stored in the attic and I 
>first noticed the problem when the temp rose into the 90's (attic temp 
>over 100 somewhere). Probably exceeded the maximum recommended temp.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On 
>Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:53 AM
>To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper 
>off.
>
>Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however, 
>lightning can cause some problems.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
> >My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am 
> >looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would 
> >re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of 
> >time be the equivalent?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >- Garrett, KD6KPC _______________________________________________
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From jeff at nhrc.net  Sun Jul 22 15:43:28 2007
From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:43:28 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller
In-Reply-To: <24233861.1185117821201.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net
 >
References: <24233861.1185117821201.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20070722154006.040aaec0@mail.nhrc.net>

Hi,

We have thought about a card for base station card cage, but we don't think 
the market is that big.  Any of our controllers will work well on the MASTR 
II station.  I have wired them onto the kluge cards and that works nicely.

Convince me that the market is bigger than a few hams and maybe we can 
think about this some more.


Jeff

At 11:23 AM 7/22/2007, you wrote:
>Is NHRC concidering a controller that plugs into the card card of a Mastr 
>II base or repeater station? I see there is one on the market now by 
>someone else. I am a NHRC fan but the plug and play is nice and now that 
>Mastr II base/repeater cabinets seem to be more plentiful I might have to 
>try one of the other guys! I have used NHRC is 3 converted mobiles but now 
>I have a set of 100watt base/repeater cabinets. Thnaks for a good product 
>guys!! Dan/N??FPE -- If I am tired now why do I need to RETIRE later??? 
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>NHRC-user at nhrc.net http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user


From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Sun Jul 22 17:23:59 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:23:59 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
In-Reply-To: <000401c7cc86$5ae8f910$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <000501c7cca6$a5e7fc70$0501a8c0@mainpc>

This pulse back is momentary only. If the repeater was getting back into
itself, wouldn't it be continuous while the repeater was transmitting?

I have access to another NHRC-3 controller that I can borrow and
troubleshoot the source.

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:33 AM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


I tested the pulse back signal range and found that I must be within 100
yards of the repeater to hear it, so it's very weak. I will check all the
connections to make sure they are tight, but I have no idea what would cause
that and how to fix it.

- Garrett

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:15 AM
To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?


Most likely it is your repeater getting back into itself.

Put the transmitter into a dummy load and see what happens.

Jeff



At 04:03 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
>I should add that when I key up on the repeater for just a 1/2 second
>and release, I get a squelch crash back on the input that is equally as 
>long. If I hold down for one second or longer, I don't get that. I 
>don't know if that is new as I have never tried that. But it is similar 
>to what I hear when the repeater ID's. Seems like this pulse back would 
>be responsible for the controller seeing that as another key up. I just 
>don't know if the radio (a GE Mastr Exec II) or the controller is 
>causing this pulse back on the input.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
>Behalf Of KD6KPC
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:54 PM
>To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>I had mentioned the problem before and thought I found the problem, but
>the problem has resurfaced and is occurring consistently.
>
>The repeater is identifying itself every 10 minutes, and not remaining
>quiet, so it's the second Ider that is IDing. But no sooner than the 
>repeater says the first letter of the call sign, it acts as though 
>someone has keyed up on it and it switches to CW. This has been going 
>on for a couple of days now. I am not hearing any signals on the input 
>and the repeater is not being used between ID's. The repeater is 
>generally pretty quiet.
>
>I figure the controller has had enough. It is stored in the attic and I
>first noticed the problem when the temp rose into the 90's (attic temp 
>over 100 somewhere). Probably exceeded the maximum recommended temp.
>
>- Garrett, KD6KPC
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
>Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:53 AM
>To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] controller acting up?
>
>
>Install the initialization jumper and power up.  Then take the jumper
>off.
>
>Generally, those controllers are very stable and reliable, however,
>lightning can cause some problems.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>At 02:29 PM 7/21/2007, you wrote:
> >My controller seems to be acting up and doing unexpected things. I am
> >looking for a 'reset' function on the NHRC-3. To do this, would 
> >re-initializing the repeater or powering down for a certain period of 
> >time be the equivalent?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >- Garrett, KD6KPC _______________________________________________
> >NHRC-user mailing list
> >NHRC-user at nhrc.net
> >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user
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From n0czv at willard-oh.com  Sun Jul 22 19:18:21 2007
From: n0czv at willard-oh.com (Steve Garwood)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:18:21 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20070722154006.040aaec0@mail.nhrc.net>
References: <24233861.1185117821201.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20070722154006.040aaec0@mail.nhrc.net>
Message-ID: <011801c7ccb6$98b40fc0$66e8c50c@DJF79M71>

Jeff,
Now that the base stations are more readily available, there might be a
market for the plug-in board.  I recently built two MII repeaters for other
groups that would have been much easier to finish and support/troubleshoot
with the plug-in board.  I maintain a lash-up for the RF section for the MII
for just that.  I also started out with the mobiles, but have been
converting them to the base station cabinet configuration.  I have a UHF
repeater that needs wired up here now....

If not a standalone repeater controller, how about a blank board that one of
your existing controllers could be attached/wired to? - Solder pad/holes to
the molex edge connector on the PC board - I don't have an easy way to get
boards made, perf board isn't much fun.  Only alternative would be to strip
off an existing board and wire it as such....  Just a thought...

Steve, N0CZV

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Otterson
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:43 PM
To: NHRC User Community Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller

Hi,

We have thought about a card for base station card cage, but we don't think 
the market is that big.  Any of our controllers will work well on the MASTR 
II station.  I have wired them onto the kluge cards and that works nicely.

Convince me that the market is bigger than a few hams and maybe we can 
think about this some more.


Jeff

At 11:23 AM 7/22/2007, you wrote:
>Is NHRC concidering a controller that plugs into the card card of a Mastr 
>II base or repeater station? I see there is one on the market now by 
>someone else. I am a NHRC fan but the plug and play is nice and now that 
>Mastr II base/repeater cabinets seem to be more plentiful I might have to 
>try one of the other guys! I have used NHRC is 3 converted mobiles but now 
>I have a set of 100watt base/repeater cabinets. Thnaks for a good product 
>guys!! Dan/N??FPE -- If I am tired now why do I need to RETIRE later??? 
>_______________________________________________ NHRC-user mailing list 
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From w5dk at gvtc.com  Mon Jul 23 10:15:25 2007
From: w5dk at gvtc.com (DK)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:15:25 -0600
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller
In-Reply-To: <24233861.1185117821201.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <DGECIJHAKBCAFMBFPPOJKEFOCDAA.w5dk@gvtc.com>

Dan and all,
I use the "remote line audio" cards that come out of the stations. Cut/isolate the traces, remove the heavy transformer, mount a controller with standoffs on the left side, wire the controller to the card and plug it in. If you have a spare made up or a set of GE repeater control card and a repeater audio cards, you can also get a system going with spare parts temporarily if you are just having controller problems.

It plugs into the J1206 slot next to the 10volt card like the one commercially available. BTW the PSE seems like a nice product, I just had  plenty of these cards and several NHRC controllers built before I saw their product.

I use plug 	B pin 14- Trans Audio HI
		B	11- Vol Squelch HI
		D	1- 10 v
		D	8- Ground
		D	3- Remote PTT
		D	12- RUS (COS)

There are several unused connections that you can use for other purposes by modifying the station board (soldering on the back plane) if needed.

73
Don Kirchner W5DK

			




-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net]On
Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:24 AM
To: nhrc-user at nhrc.net
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II controller



Is NHRC concidering a controller that plugs into the card card of a Mastr II base or repeater station? I see there is one on the market now by someone else. I am a NHRC fan but the plug and play is nice and now that Mastr II base/repeater cabinets seem to be more plentiful I might have to try one of the other guys! I have used NHRC is 3 converted mobiles but now I have a set of 100watt base/repeater cabinets.
Thnaks for a good product guys!!

Dan/N?FPE

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From n0fpe at cox.net  Mon Jul 23 17:00:28 2007
From: n0fpe at cox.net (Dan)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:00:28 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] Mastr II Base card
Message-ID: <14237955.1185224428432.JavaMail.root@fed1wml13.mgt.cox.net>


well I can touch 3 Mastr II repeater cabinets right now that would love to have a card to slide into the card cage! And i know of at least 2 more that are trying to decide what controller to use. The idea of a mother/daughter board configuration that could use your other controllers sounds like a kewl Idea!!!
while that is not many here I think if you ask around you could be surprized!

Dan

--
If I am tired now why do I need to RETIRE later???

From k1rjz at thezachs.com  Wed Jul 25 07:19:21 2007
From: k1rjz at thezachs.com (Rick Zach, K1RJZ)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:19:21 -0400
Subject: [NHRC-user] NHRC-user Digest, Vol 20, Issue 6
In-Reply-To: <mailman.53.1185285633.28815.nhrc-user@nhrc.net>
References: <mailman.53.1185285633.28815.nhrc-user@nhrc.net>
Message-ID: <200707250728687.SM01068@HPWidescreen.thezachs.com>



The GE repeater and line cards are certainly available in quantity 
via ebay.  How about providing just the INSRUCTIONS on how to 
leverage that great resource with an NHRC product!

That would convince me to stay within the NHRC family!

Rick Zach, K1RJZ




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>well I can touch 3 Mastr II repeater cabinets right now that would 
>love to have a card to slide into the card cage! And i know of at 
>least 2 more that are trying to decide what controller to use. The 
>idea of a mother/daughter board configuration that could use your 
>other controllers sounds like a kewl Idea!!!
>while that is not many here I think if you ask around you could be surprized!
>
>Dan
>
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From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Mon Jul 30 01:15:01 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:15:01 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode
Message-ID: <002c01c7d268$97e04e80$0501a8c0@mainpc>

Hi all,
 
I had mentioned the problem with the repeater pulsing back on itself. After
checking the duplexers, I found the notching was off on the TX cans. Thanks
for the hint on the repeater getting back into itself. It has been re-tuned
and is working great now.
 
I have an issue that may not actually be an  actual problem with the
controller, but am looking for what 'normal' is. I am connecting my repeater
consistently to an EchoLink hub that does not permit IDers over the link.
The repeater seemed to be working like I wanted it to by only encoding a PL
tone when there was an input carrier, and was not encoding a tone when the
IDer or special announcement was playing. However, now it seems to be
consistently encoding the tone on every transmitted signal, even when there
is no input signal.
 
I have an NHRC-3 and cannot seem to find a setting in the manual that allows
for toggling when the PL is encoded. I need it to encode when there is an
input signal, but not when there isn't one. This seems to be the only
solution to prevent the IDer from being transmitted over EchoLink. Is there
such a setting? If there isn't one, I'm not sure why the repeater was
working the way I wanted it to before and is not now.
 
I am using a TS-32 board.
 
73's
 
- Garrett, KD6KPC

From pjohannik at starband.net  Mon Jul 30 08:55:41 2007
From: pjohannik at starband.net (Patrick Johannik)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:55:41 -0600
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode
In-Reply-To: <002c01c7d268$97e04e80$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <001e01c7d2a8$f490af90$dc00a8c0@patrick>

Garrett,

  Are you using the COS/PL Detect to signal the encoder?  The sheets all say
to use the ptt line.  I have the same thing set up with my NHRC-4 and I use
the COS/PL Detect instead of the ptt line.  IF your COS/ PL Detect is active
high, just build an inverter.  With this setup it will only encode with
valid signal, and not with any of the controllers stuff.

Pat
N5BBD

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode

Hi all,
 
I had mentioned the problem with the repeater pulsing back on itself. After
checking the duplexers, I found the notching was off on the TX cans. Thanks
for the hint on the repeater getting back into itself. It has been re-tuned
and is working great now.
 
I have an issue that may not actually be an  actual problem with the
controller, but am looking for what 'normal' is. I am connecting my repeater
consistently to an EchoLink hub that does not permit IDers over the link.
The repeater seemed to be working like I wanted it to by only encoding a PL
tone when there was an input carrier, and was not encoding a tone when the
IDer or special announcement was playing. However, now it seems to be
consistently encoding the tone on every transmitted signal, even when there
is no input signal.
 
I have an NHRC-3 and cannot seem to find a setting in the manual that allows
for toggling when the PL is encoded. I need it to encode when there is an
input signal, but not when there isn't one. This seems to be the only
solution to prevent the IDer from being transmitted over EchoLink. Is there
such a setting? If there isn't one, I'm not sure why the repeater was
working the way I wanted it to before and is not now.
 
I am using a TS-32 board.
 
73's
 
- Garrett, KD6KPC
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From kd6kpc at comcast.net  Mon Jul 30 16:32:27 2007
From: kd6kpc at comcast.net (KD6KPC)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:32:27 -0700
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode
In-Reply-To: <001e01c7d2a8$f490af90$dc00a8c0@patrick>
Message-ID: <000801c7d2e8$c1bca5c0$0501a8c0@mainpc>

What effect will the Audio delay circuit have. I hade it turned off (oops)
and now it seems to be working correctly.

- Garrett

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of Patrick Johannik
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:56 AM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode


Garrett,

  Are you using the COS/PL Detect to signal the encoder?  The sheets all say
to use the ptt line.  I have the same thing set up with my NHRC-4 and I use
the COS/PL Detect instead of the ptt line.  IF your COS/ PL Detect is active
high, just build an inverter.  With this setup it will only encode with
valid signal, and not with any of the controllers stuff.

Pat
N5BBD

-----Original Message-----
From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode

Hi all,
 
I had mentioned the problem with the repeater pulsing back on itself. After
checking the duplexers, I found the notching was off on the TX cans. Thanks
for the hint on the repeater getting back into itself. It has been re-tuned
and is working great now.
 
I have an issue that may not actually be an  actual problem with the
controller, but am looking for what 'normal' is. I am connecting my repeater
consistently to an EchoLink hub that does not permit IDers over the link.
The repeater seemed to be working like I wanted it to by only encoding a PL
tone when there was an input carrier, and was not encoding a tone when the
IDer or special announcement was playing. However, now it seems to be
consistently encoding the tone on every transmitted signal, even when there
is no input signal.
 
I have an NHRC-3 and cannot seem to find a setting in the manual that allows
for toggling when the PL is encoded. I need it to encode when there is an
input signal, but not when there isn't one. This seems to be the only
solution to prevent the IDer from being transmitted over EchoLink. Is there
such a setting? If there isn't one, I'm not sure why the repeater was
working the way I wanted it to before and is not now.
 
I am using a TS-32 board.
 
73's
 
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From pjohannik at starband.net  Tue Jul 31 09:41:54 2007
From: pjohannik at starband.net (Patrick Johannik)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:41:54 -0600
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode
In-Reply-To: <000801c7d2e8$c1bca5c0$0501a8c0@mainpc>
Message-ID: <002401c7d378$9402b490$dc00a8c0@patrick>

Not sure I am not using the DAD.  I do not think it would be much of an
effect.

Pat
N5BBD

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From: nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-bounces at nhrc.net] On
Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:32 PM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode

What effect will the Audio delay circuit have. I hade it turned off (oops)
and now it seems to be working correctly.

- Garrett

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Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode


Garrett,

  Are you using the COS/PL Detect to signal the encoder?  The sheets all say
to use the ptt line.  I have the same thing set up with my NHRC-4 and I use
the COS/PL Detect instead of the ptt line.  IF your COS/ PL Detect is active
high, just build an inverter.  With this setup it will only encode with
valid signal, and not with any of the controllers stuff.

Pat
N5BBD

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Behalf Of KD6KPC
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:15 PM
To: 'NHRC User Community Mailing List'
Subject: [NHRC-user] Repeater tone encode

Hi all,
 
I had mentioned the problem with the repeater pulsing back on itself. After
checking the duplexers, I found the notching was off on the TX cans. Thanks
for the hint on the repeater getting back into itself. It has been re-tuned
and is working great now.
 
I have an issue that may not actually be an  actual problem with the
controller, but am looking for what 'normal' is. I am connecting my repeater
consistently to an EchoLink hub that does not permit IDers over the link.
The repeater seemed to be working like I wanted it to by only encoding a PL
tone when there was an input carrier, and was not encoding a tone when the
IDer or special announcement was playing. However, now it seems to be
consistently encoding the tone on every transmitted signal, even when there
is no input signal.
 
I have an NHRC-3 and cannot seem to find a setting in the manual that allows
for toggling when the PL is encoded. I need it to encode when there is an
input signal, but not when there isn't one. This seems to be the only
solution to prevent the IDer from being transmitted over EchoLink. Is there
such a setting? If there isn't one, I'm not sure why the repeater was
working the way I wanted it to before and is not now.
 
I am using a TS-32 board.
 
73's
 
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From ke4pm at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 31 10:16:16 2007
From: ke4pm at sbcglobal.net (Larry Prelog)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:16:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NHRC-user] TS-64 to NHRC-7
Message-ID: <655262.68240.qm@web82706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Greetings all,
        Do you have any application notes for installing a TS-64 Encoder/Decoder on a NHRC-7 controller.  It is used on a GE Mastr II.  I am only using the decode since the encoder plugs into the mastr II.
  Larry M. Prelog  KE4PM