From Bryan at kb9mci.net Fri Jan 13 16:14:25 2006 From: Bryan at kb9mci.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Fri Jan 13 16:15:30 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 Message-ID: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> Hi all, I have a NHRC3+ on a 220 (224.74- 131.8pl, crown point, IN)repeater here, and am trying to program a custom courtesy tone. I have the listings of the tones from the appendix in the manual, but that only lists the musical notes, does someone have a list of the tones in Hz? Is it possible to use the DVR as a courtesy tone, not just as tail message, but as the courtesy tone itself? -- Bryan Fields, KB9MCI ____________________ 15:10:50 up 1 day, 19:31, 2 users, load average: 1.61, 1.21, 0.78 I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to tell such LIES! From jeff at nhrc.net Fri Jan 13 18:19:13 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Fri Jan 13 18:19:15 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 In-Reply-To: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> References: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Here's the note-to-frequency mapping: notefreq f4349.25 f#4370 g4392 g#4415.3 a4440 a#4466.15 b4493.9 c5523.25 c#5554.35 d5587.35 d#5622.3 e5659.3 f5698.5 f#5740 g5784 g#5830.6 a5880 a#5932.3 b5987.8 c61046.5 c#61108.7 d61174.7 d#61244.5 e61318.5 f61397 f#61480 g61568 g#61661.2 a61760 a#61864.7 b61975.5 With respect to using a recorded message as a courtesy tone, I really thought you could do that, but when I looked in the manual, it was not documented... Strange. But I did look at the source code, and it looks like if you program the courtesy tone to 0000 (duration 00, tone 00) it should play recorded message #3 as the courtesy tone. Please let me know if this works for you. The NHRC-3+ was intended to have this functionality, and I think it does work, but it would be a great help to me if you would let me know how you make out with this. Regards, Jeff Otterson, N1KDO NHRC LLC At 04:14 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a NHRC3+ on a 220 (224.74- 131.8pl, crown point, IN)repeater here, and >am trying to program a custom courtesy tone. I have the listings of the >tones from the appendix in the manual, but that only lists the musical notes, >does someone have a list of the tones in Hz? > >Is it possible to use the DVR as a courtesy tone, not just as tail message, >but as the courtesy tone itself? > >-- >Bryan Fields, KB9MCI >____________________ > 15:10:50 up 1 day, 19:31, 2 users, load average: 1.61, 1.21, 0.78 > >I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to >tell such LIES! >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From jeff at nhrc.net Fri Jan 13 18:24:55 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Fri Jan 13 18:24:57 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> References: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113182330.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Uggghhh. Sorry. It looked good when I sent it! Here's another try. note freq f4 349.25 f#4 370 g4 392 g#4 415.3 a4 440 a#4 466.15 b4 493.9 c5 523.25 c#5 554.35 d5 587.35 d#5 622.3 e5 659.3 f5 698.5 f#5 740 g5 784 g#5 830.6 a5 880 a#5 932.3 b5 987.8 c6 1046.5 c#6 1108.7 d6 1174.7 d#6 1244.5 e6 1318.5 f6 1397 f#6 1480 g6 1568 g#6 1661.2 a6 1760 a#6 1864.7 b6 1975.5 Jeff At 06:19 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote: >Here's the note-to-frequency mapping: > >notefreq >f4349.25 >f#4370 >g4392 >g#4415.3 >a4440 >a#4466.15 >b4493.9 >c5523.25 >c#5554.35 >d5587.35 >d#5622.3 >e5659.3 >f5698.5 >f#5740 >g5784 >g#5830.6 >a5880 >a#5932.3 >b5987.8 >c61046.5 >c#61108.7 >d61174.7 >d#61244.5 >e61318.5 >f61397 >f#61480 >g61568 >g#61661.2 >a61760 >a#61864.7 >b61975.5 > >With respect to using a recorded message as a courtesy tone, I really >thought you could do that, but when I looked in the manual, it was not >documented... Strange. > >But I did look at the source code, and it looks like if you program the >courtesy tone to 0000 (duration 00, tone 00) it should play recorded >message #3 as the courtesy tone. > >Please let me know if this works for you. The NHRC-3+ was intended to >have this functionality, and I think it does work, but it would be a great >help to me if you would let me know how you make out with this. > >Regards, > >Jeff Otterson, N1KDO >NHRC LLC > > > >At 04:14 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>I have a NHRC3+ on a 220 (224.74- 131.8pl, crown point, IN)repeater here, and >>am trying to program a custom courtesy tone. I have the listings of the >>tones from the appendix in the manual, but that only lists the musical notes, >>does someone have a list of the tones in Hz? >> >>Is it possible to use the DVR as a courtesy tone, not just as tail message, >>but as the courtesy tone itself? >> >>-- >>Bryan Fields, KB9MCI >>____________________ >> 15:10:50 up 1 day, 19:31, 2 users, load average: 1.61, 1.21, 0.78 >> >>I disagree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to >>tell such LIES! >>_______________________________________________ >>NHRC-user mailing list >>NHRC-user@nhrc.net >>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user > >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From Bryan at kb9mci.net Fri Jan 13 18:58:46 2006 From: Bryan at kb9mci.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Fri Jan 13 18:58:53 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> References: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Message-ID: <200601131758.47240.Bryan@kb9mci.net> On Friday 13 January 2006 17:19 pm, Jeff Otterson wrote: > But I did look at the source code, and it looks like if you program the > courtesy tone to 0000 (duration 00, tone 00) it should play recorded > message #3 as the courtesy tone. > > Please let me know if this works for you. ?The NHRC-3+ was intended to have > this functionality, and I think it does work, but it would be a great help > to me if you would let me know how you make out with this. lol "Use the Source Luke!" That does work, however message 3 plays right before the hang timer drops too. Is there a way to use message #3 for just the courtesy tone, but not have it play before the hang timer drops? Thanks, -- Bryan Fields, KB9MCI ____________________ 17:58:37 up 1 day, 22:19, 2 users, load average: 0.62, 0.68, 0.81 A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Gandhi From jeff at nhrc.net Fri Jan 13 19:25:11 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Fri Jan 13 19:25:13 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 In-Reply-To: <200601131758.47240.Bryan@kb9mci.net> References: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20060113180801.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> <200601131758.47240.Bryan@kb9mci.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113192416.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Yeah. Set the Tail Timer to 0. Then the tail message will never play. Message 3 is shared between the tail message and the recordable courtesy tone. Jeff At 06:58 PM 1/13/2006, you wrote: >On Friday 13 January 2006 17:19 pm, Jeff Otterson wrote: > > But I did look at the source code, and it looks like if you program the > > courtesy tone to 0000 (duration 00, tone 00) it should play recorded > > message #3 as the courtesy tone. > > > > Please let me know if this works for you. The NHRC-3+ was intended to have > > this functionality, and I think it does work, but it would be a great help > > to me if you would let me know how you make out with this. > >lol "Use the Source Luke!" > >That does work, however message 3 plays right before the hang timer drops >too. >Is there a way to use message #3 for just the courtesy tone, but not have it >play before the hang timer drops? > >Thanks, >-- >Bryan Fields, KB9MCI >____________________ > 17:58:37 up 1 day, 22:19, 2 users, load average: 0.62, 0.68, 0.81 > >A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a >"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. > -- Mahatma Gandhi >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From Bryan at kb9mci.net Fri Jan 13 22:05:04 2006 From: Bryan at kb9mci.net (Bryan Fields) Date: Fri Jan 13 22:05:21 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] Tone List for NHRC3 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060113192416.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> References: <200601131514.25718.Bryan@kb9mci.net> <200601131758.47240.Bryan@kb9mci.net> <6.1.2.0.2.20060113192416.02e305d0@mail.nhrc.net> Message-ID: <200601132105.05446.Bryan@kb9mci.net> On Friday 13 January 2006 18:25 pm, Jeff Otterson wrote: > Yeah. ?Set the Tail Timer to 0. ?Then the tail message will never play. I set that counter to 0 and now it's working just fine. Guess I found something to put in the next manual revision :-) -- Bryan Fields From kuggie at kuggie.com Mon Jan 16 19:16:58 2006 From: kuggie at kuggie.com (Kevin Custer) Date: Tue Jan 17 19:07:25 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 Message-ID: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> NHRC has recently released a *major* software upgrade for their NHRC-4, NHRC-4/MVP, and NHRC-4/M2 controllers. This firmware was throughly beta tested and refined before its public release. Details of the upgrade can be seen here: $29.00 US, not including shipping. Disclaimer: I do not work for NHRC, and I have nothing personal to gain by commenting on NHRC or any other company (except Repeater Builder, the Company) that posts or is discussed on this list. I am, however, a satisfied builder, owner, re-seller of NHRC's products. IMHO, and as one of the Beta Test members, I can tell you this is a major upgrade that is WELL worth the small asking price. Comments or Questions welcome. Kevin Custer From n5wdz at yahoo.com Tue Jan 17 20:55:54 2006 From: n5wdz at yahoo.com (tom scott) Date: Tue Jan 17 20:56:12 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 In-Reply-To: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> Message-ID: <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> any upgrades for the nhrc-3+? From jeff at nhrc.net Wed Jan 18 06:00:50 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Wed Jan 18 06:00:40 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 In-Reply-To: <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> NHRC-3+ is at version 1.1. The most recent changes include programmable CW speed and pitch, as well as complete support for European ID parameters and 1750 hz tone burst support, as well as courtesy beep in simplex mode. Jeff At 08:55 PM 1/17/2006, you wrote: >any upgrades for the nhrc-3+? > > >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From f5fyo at wanadoo.fr Wed Jan 18 14:33:46 2006 From: f5fyo at wanadoo.fr (f5fyo) Date: Wed Jan 18 15:39:08 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 References: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com><20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> Message-ID: <006801c61c66$198ab340$23bacc53@i9a8t5> Hello everybody, hello Jeff We at Paris-Clamart we found very interesting feature the 1750 Hz tone burst support and European parameters on the NHRC 3+. We asked for those features about one year ago. Now the NHRC3+ is so atractive you will find many other funs here in Europe! (with the extra of CTCSS ; DTMF inputs and other features!) (While collecting money..as our annual meeting is the 20th January.)we send everybody Our best wishes and a Happy New Year Hugo F5FYO /KC9CNJ PS: Clamart is a hill on the southern Paris suburbs. The repeaters are at 280 meters over the sea level ;which is quite some few meters below EIFFEL tower's Height (distant 10 Kms from there) Frequencies: VHF 145.600 (you hear) - 600 KHz tone 1750 Hz UHF 431.725 - 1.600 KHz tone 1750 Hz You can access them as well from Airport Roissy-Charles de Gaulle which is about 45 Kms far! Note: if you do not have the tone on your hand held just Whistle long enough.... and it works! there are also many repeaters on 1.250; 5.570; and 10 GHZ for voice, data ant ATV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Otterson" To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 > NHRC-3+ is at version 1.1. > > The most recent changes include programmable CW speed and pitch, as well as > complete support for European ID parameters and 1750 hz tone burst support, > as well as courtesy beep in simplex mode. > > Jeff > > > > At 08:55 PM 1/17/2006, you wrote: > >any upgrades for the nhrc-3+? > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >NHRC-user mailing list > >NHRC-user@nhrc.net > >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user > > _______________________________________________ > NHRC-user mailing list > NHRC-user@nhrc.net > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user > > From jeff at nhrc.net Wed Jan 18 17:39:50 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Wed Jan 18 17:39:38 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 In-Reply-To: <006801c61c66$198ab340$23bacc53@i9a8t5> References: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> <006801c61c66$198ab340$23bacc53@i9a8t5> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060118173820.02e29628@mail.nhrc.net> Hi, We actually worked with F6IIT to get the European ID and 1750 modes working in a manner that is compliant with the rules there, for that repeater... I'm glad to hear it is working out. 73, Jeff At 02:33 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote: >Hello everybody, hello Jeff > >We at Paris-Clamart we found very interesting feature the 1750 Hz tone burst >support and European parameters on the NHRC 3+. > >We asked for those features about one year ago. > >Now the NHRC3+ is so atractive you will find many other funs here in Europe! >(with the extra of CTCSS ; DTMF inputs and other features!) > >(While collecting money..as our annual meeting is the 20th January.)we send >everybody >Our best wishes and a Happy New Year > >Hugo F5FYO /KC9CNJ > >PS: Clamart is a hill on the southern Paris suburbs. The repeaters are at >280 meters over the sea level ;which is quite some few meters below EIFFEL >tower's Height (distant 10 Kms from there) > >Frequencies: >VHF 145.600 (you hear) - 600 KHz tone 1750 Hz >UHF 431.725 - 1.600 KHz tone 1750 Hz >You can access them as well from Airport Roissy-Charles de Gaulle which is >about 45 Kms far! >Note: if you do not have the tone on your hand held just Whistle long >enough.... and it works! >there are also many repeaters on 1.250; 5.570; and 10 GHZ for voice, data >ant ATV > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Otterson" >To: "NHRC User Community Mailing List" >Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:00 PM >Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 > > > > NHRC-3+ is at version 1.1. > > > > The most recent changes include programmable CW speed and pitch, as well >as > > complete support for European ID parameters and 1750 hz tone burst >support, > > as well as courtesy beep in simplex mode. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > At 08:55 PM 1/17/2006, you wrote: > > >any upgrades for the nhrc-3+? > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >NHRC-user mailing list > > >NHRC-user@nhrc.net > > >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NHRC-user mailing list > > NHRC-user@nhrc.net > > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From k4rxr_ at rlburns.net Sat Jan 21 07:59:46 2006 From: k4rxr_ at rlburns.net (Bob Burns K4RXR) Date: Sat Jan 21 08:00:08 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> References: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060121073237.0227f050@rlburns.net> At 06:00 AM 1/18/2006, Jeff Otterson wrote: >NHRC-3+ is at version 1.1. Jeff, I think it would be useful for you to post the latest firmware version numbers for all of the NHRC controllers along with the upgrade pricing. For that matter, how about putting this information on the NHRC web site? If it's there, I'm not seeing it. Thanks! Bob... 147.165 K9LMK 442.900 WB9CIF NHRC-7 Danville, Indiana From jeff at nhrc.net Sun Jan 22 20:48:00 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Sun Jan 22 20:47:57 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] New software (Firmware) for the NHRC-4 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060121073237.0227f050@rlburns.net> References: <43CC377A.30400@kuggie.com> <20060118015555.90510.qmail@web81902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20060118055828.02e2e708@mail.nhrc.net> <7.0.0.16.2.20060121073237.0227f050@rlburns.net> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060122204721.02e38e18@mail.nhrc.net> Bob, I think this is a good idea. Let me think about how to properly present the information. Jeff At 07:59 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote: >At 06:00 AM 1/18/2006, Jeff Otterson wrote: >>NHRC-3+ is at version 1.1. > >Jeff, I think it would be useful for you to post the latest firmware >version numbers for all of the NHRC controllers along with the upgrade >pricing. For that matter, how about putting this information on the NHRC >web site? If it's there, I'm not seeing it. > >Thanks! > >Bob... > >147.165 K9LMK >442.900 WB9CIF >NHRC-7 >Danville, Indiana > >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user From K1RJZ at thezachs.com Mon Jan 23 21:20:14 2006 From: K1RJZ at thezachs.com (Rick Zach K1RJZ) Date: Mon Jan 23 21:20:15 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] third party voice IDs into NV RAM In-Reply-To: <20060123170017.557E91A9AF@five.pairlist.net> Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20060123211127.00bd3c60@216.235.250.158> I want to have a third party record voice ID's into an NHRC-5. These will be WAV or MP3 files that were EQ'd on a professional audio console to sound best at a 300-3K limited audio bandwidth. How can this be done without using a radio on the input. I want to use a wired input to minimize any TX radio processing before it gets recorded. Thanks. ____________________________________________ Rick Zach, K1RJZ From jeff at nhrc.net Mon Jan 23 22:11:51 2006 From: jeff at nhrc.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Mon Jan 23 22:11:46 2006 Subject: [NHRC-user] third party voice IDs into NV RAM In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20060123211127.00bd3c60@216.235.250.158> References: <20060123170017.557E91A9AF@five.pairlist.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20060123211127.00bd3c60@216.235.250.158> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20060123221034.02e2bd10@mail.nhrc.net> Hi Rick, You could build a harness to the controller from your audio system and manually simulate the COR signal. Or you could get us to record it. We record the NHRC-10 voice prompts with a special programmer for the ISD chips. Regards, Jeff At 09:20 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote: >I want to have a third party record voice ID's into an NHRC-5. These will >be WAV or MP3 files that were EQ'd on a professional audio console to >sound best at a 300-3K limited audio bandwidth. > >How can this be done without using a radio on the input. I want to use a >wired input to minimize any TX radio processing before it gets recorded. > >Thanks. > > >____________________________________________ >Rick Zach, K1RJZ >_______________________________________________ >NHRC-user mailing list >NHRC-user@nhrc.net >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/nhrc-user