[LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts

William Howard william at howard-family.fsworld.co.uk
Mon Jan 14 02:52:45 EST 2008



----- Original Message -----
From: "William Howard" <william at howard-family.fsworld.co.uk>
To: "LDraw Standards Committee" <lsc at ldraw.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts



>> If anyone wants to scan http://www.ldraw.org/library/tracker/ref/ for

>> candidate

>> material you are welcome, and I'll be glad to remove it from those pages.

>> This was always the intention as highlighted by the first line of that

>> page.

> I'll add this to my list of things to do "on the train while commuting to

> work". If there are any other pages/posts that need merging, post them

> here (anyone) and I'll do those as well

>

>

>> - what was the thinking around allowing "dot" within the filename in

>> addition to being the extension separator? I'd not guarantee that the

>> scripting behind the Parts Tracker would support that.

> I suspect this is because "it propably does not matter" - if it does mater

> (and it sounds like it does), let's just remove it

>

>

>> - since the primary target environment is Windows, there is no

>> distinction

>> between upper- and lower-case letters. By convention we currently issue

>> parts with all upper-case names (although the filename on the Name: line

>> is

>> checked to be lower-case !). Was there any special reason for allowing

>> both

>> lower- and upper-case? UNIX geeks might assume that they may use casing

>> to

>> provide meaning.

> See comment above - I'll add a statement about part names being

> case-insensitive (but this may belong in the official spec - I'll double

> check)

>

>

>> - It's not just Hi-Res primitives that should be coded to 4DPs. All

>> scalable

>> primitives should be. The primitives reference tries to make it clear

>> which

>> are not supposed to be scaled. Things like clips and technic components

>> are

>> not scalable, whereas elemental primitives like discs, edges and cones

>> are

>> scalable.

> OK. I took that text almost verbatim from a lugnet post, but it's

> possible I mis-read it or have since changed it. I'll modify the text in

> this document to reflect what you have writen above.

>

>

>> If we continue to support the "type 2 lines inside and coplanar with type

>> 4

>> quads technique" for fine patterns, there will be two cases where a

>> colour

>> 16 type 2 line is needed. When a subpart is reused for different colour

>> versions (see s/973P11A.DAT for an example) and when a pattern leaves a

>> narrow gap of base-part colour (see s/973P11B.DAT).

> OK, I'll change this to a strong recommendatation and add notes about

> these kind of exceptions

>

>

>> Are you saying that all comments (not just those in headers) MUST be of

>> the

>> "0 // ..." form?

> Yes, but only in newly submitted parts. Existing parts should have

> "grandfather rights" to keep their existing comments. There is a post (by

> Mike I think) somewhere in this thread about this.

>

>> Now (i.e. the next few days) would be the ideal time to

>> apply this rule to all existing parts.

> If you can make a global change in the editing/release process that would

> be good, but not strictly necessary - see above.

>

>> What about the trailing null comment

>> line often present in parts (and probably there for a reason, once upon a

>> time)?

>

> I believe the trailing null comment, ie a single 0 on a line, was there to

> mark the end of a part when posted to lugnet etc. Personally I'd like to

> either see them all removed or the official spec changed to mandate that

> an LDraw file has a terminator line. However, I also think that both of

> these options are unreasonable - mainly as MLCad doesn't seem to care one

> way or the other and we'd end up "breaking" an awful lot of model files.

> I also seem to remember some discussion about an "official terminator"

> when we were discussing the library header format and the idea being

> discarded.

>

>

>> There is a typo in the last line of this section :

>> s/confomant/conformant/.

> Thanks, I'll correct it. Doesn't surprise me there is one, what will

> surprise me is if it's the only one :-)

>

> William

>

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