[LSC] LDraw File Spec -Diagrams

William Howard william at howard-family.fsworld.co.uk
Mon Sep 10 14:01:12 EDT 2007


Some links would have helped!

http://www.ldraw.org/modules/gallery/album61/LDrawCoordsSystem
http://www.ldraw.org/modules/gallery/album61/LDrawPoly1
http://www.ldraw.org/modules/gallery/album61/LDrawPoly2

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Howard" <william at howard-family.fsworld.co.uk>
To: "LDraw Standards Committee" <lsc at ldraw.org>; <parts at ldraw.org>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LSC] LDraw File Spec -Diagrams



> I've done some basic diagrams for the spec.

>

> They will suffice for the purposes of discussion and ratifying the spec,

> but I'm far from happy with the artistic ability displayed within them!

>

> However, I don't see improving the visual appearance of a diagram as a

> "material change" to the spec, so these can always be tidied up and/or

> improved later

>

> William

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Lars C. Hassing" <lars at hassings.dk>

> To: "LDraw Standards Committee" <lsc at ldraw.org>

> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:12 AM

> Subject: Re: [LSC] LDraw File Spec -Initial public comments

>

>

>> There's also this one I made for L3P:

>> http://www.hassings.dk/l3/l3p/l3globe2.jpg

>> http://www.hassings.dk/l3/l3p.html#l3globe

>> I could make one without the globe.

>> /Lars

>>

>>

>> Chris Dee skrev:

>>>

>>> William

>>>

>>>

>>> You have the orientation correct, but maybe an illustration like at

>>> http://www.ldraw.org/library/primref/ might be clearer. IIRC, I even

>>> drew this as an LDraw dat file.

>>>

>>>

>>> Chris

>>>

>>>

>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>

>>> *From:* lsc-bounces at ldraw.org [mailto:lsc-bounces at ldraw.org] *On Behalf

>>> Of *William Howard

>>> *Sent:* 08 September 2007 09:32

>>> *To:* LDraw Standards Committee

>>> *Subject:* Re: [LSC] LDraw File Spec -Initial public comments

>>>

>>>

>>> How do I upload a picture to LDraw?

>>>

>>>

>>> Diagram for 8a and 8b

>>>

>>>

>>> http://www.brickish.org/members/files/whoward/LDrawCoordsSystem.png

>>>

>>>

>>> Can someone just sanity check this

>>>

>>>

>>> W

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>

>>> *From:* William Howard <mailto:william at howard-family.fsworld.co.uk>

>>>

>>> *To:* LDraw Standards Committee <mailto:lsc at ldraw.org>

>>>

>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 07, 2007 8:27 PM

>>>

>>> *Subject:* Re: [LSC] LDraw File Spec -Initial public comments

>>>

>>>

>>> >I'll try to update the spec with the easy ones from here (and

>>> hence shorten the list) over the weekend

>>>

>>>

>>> I've made some of the easier edits (not uploaded the changes

>>> anywhere yet) and removed them from the list. I've also removed

>>> the ones we have agreed not to do or are already in the spec.

>>>

>>>

>>> The reduced list is below

>>>

>>>

>>> I reckon I can do 1d, 1e, 3b, 9a, and 9c easily over the weekend.

>>>

>>>

>>> I have enough graphics background to make a first attempt at 8a and

>>> 8b

>>>

>>>

>>> BUT 5d is well outside my comfort zone so someone else (Travis?)

>>> will have to take this on

>>>

>>>

>>> William

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ========================================================

>>>

>>> 1) General

>>> ----------

>>> d) File Type section needs dividing into Official and Unofficial

>>> WH: AGREE - but the Official section needs moving to the Parts

>>> Library Header spec

>>> TC: NEUTRAL

>>> LCH: NEUTRAL

>>>

>>>

>>> e) Common verticies paragraph needs a diagram

>>> WH: AGREE - Needs a diagram

>>> TC: AGREE

>>> LCH: AGREE

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 3) Filenames

>>> ------------

>>> b) The spec should not define what is permitted in an official

>>> filename (ie part file), but this text should be moved to the

>>> library header spec

>>> WH: AGREE

>>> TC: AGREE

>>> LCH: AGREE

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 5) Matrix operations

>>> --------------------

>>> d) Give matrix example(s) and mathematical example

>>> WH: AGREE

>>> TC: AGREE

>>> LCH: AGREE

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 8) Axis orientation

>>> -------------------

>>> a) Explain the "handedness" of the axis

>>> WH: AGREE

>>> TC: AGREE

>>> LCH: AGREE

>>>

>>>

>>> b) Explain that -y is up

>>> WH: AGREE

>>> TC: AGREE - (For these, a diagram would probably be useful.)

>>> LCH: AGREE - yes, an image is worth a 1000 words...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> 9) Meta commands

>>> ----------------

>>> a) META commands can do a lot and it should be stated at the

>>> beginning.

>>> WH: AGREE

>>> TC: AGREE

>>> LCH: AGREE

>>>

>>>

>>> c) "Write/Print" should note that this is not allowed in official

>>> parts files

>>> WH: AGREE - but interesting to note that some want the spec to

>>> include parts and some don't!

>>> TC: DISAGREE - Should have one spot in spec where we link to

>>> "rules for official parts" in separate document, and keep them out

>>> of spec entirely.

>>> LCH: DISAGREE (but agrees with TC's comment)

>>>

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