[LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts

Michael Heidemann mikeheide at web.de
Tue Nov 27 15:43:22 EST 2007


Attached please find a Dat file that I have used for some testing in LDDP.
The results are very curious.
As I am not familar with the new tool from Philo, maybe somebody can
make some tests with this file.

cu
mikeheide

Travis Cobbs schrieb:

> I meant to reply as well, and then forgot. The problem with both -det

> and -dist in L3P is that neither of those corresponds to an angle (at

> least based on my understanding). I believe that they're both

> influenced by the size of the polygons involved. If one of them does

> use normalized triangle surface normals (meaning that they aren't

> based on the triangle size), then .1 would probably mean about 26

> degrees, and .01 would probably mean about 8 degrees.

>

> --Travis

>

> On Nov 26, 2007 10:37 AM, Michael Heidemann <mikeheide at web.de

> <mailto:mikeheide at web.de>> wrote:

>

> I got no reply on this. Do my postings reach you?

>

> cu

> mikeheide

>

> Michael Heidemann schrieb:

> > Can somebody inform me about the angle according our new

> calculation

> > based on the old -det and -dist rules?

> >

> > I think we have had a good agreement over the past with the two

> values

> > of -det 0.01 and -dist 0.1.

> > If we had a line that just fulfill this values, what will be the

> angle

> > with our new calculation?

> > It should be a quad that is about 50 to 100 LDU square I think.

> >

> > I mention this, because I want to avoid that we are too restrictive

> > with our new rules.

> >

> > cu

> > mikeheide

> >

> > William Howard schrieb:

> >> I think what is interesting here is not the % of bad parts (which

> >> doesn't vary that much) but the huge jump in warped quads

> between 1

> >> and 2 degrees

> >>

> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philo" <philohome at free.fr

> <mailto:philohome at free.fr>>

> >> To: "LDraw Standards Committee" < lsc at ldraw.org

> <mailto:lsc at ldraw.org>>

> >> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 8:13 AM

> >> Subject: Re: [LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts

> >>

> >>

> >>> I modified Philo program to do this. Attached is the output

> for 1,

> >>> 2, and 3

> >>>

> >> Well done, Orion!

> >> Could you send me the modified program?

> >>

> >> So to sum up0: over 3018 official parts,

> >> at 3° we get 91 files in error with 1241 warped quads (3%)

> >> at 2° we get 112 files in error with 1836 warped quads (3.7%)

> >> at 1° we get 144 files in error with 5002 warped quads (4.7%)

> >>

> >> Before deciding the threshold, it would be interesting to check

> subparts

> >> that often contains the guts of the most complex parts, and

> primitives -

> >> 48/primitives, perhaps with a more stringent criteria.

> >>

> >>

> >> Philo

> >>

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