[LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts

[Michael Heidemann]

What is about our WIKI at this point. 
http://www.ldraw.org/wiki/index.php/POVray_Parts_Repository
There we have links to such parts. We only need a place where we can put 
it to and then clean the file on the PT.

mikeheide

Chris Dee schrieb:

>

> Sorry to interject here (as I guess I’m only supposed to be a listener 

> on this group).

>

>  

>

> The version of 82359 in the official library is Tore’s 1999-02 

> version. The POV code was put in later and has not been released in an 

> official update. In any case Chuck Sommerville has not affirmed the 

> CA, so this version cannot be release as it currently stands.

>

>  

>

> Anyone who suffers rendering degradation will have been using the 

> unofficial PT version and could suffer all sorts of other problems.

>

>  

>

> Chris

>

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> *From:* lsc-bounces at ldraw.org [mailto:lsc-bounces at ldraw.org] *On 

> Behalf Of *Travis Cobbs

> *Sent:* 16 November 2007 18:32

> *To:* LDraw Standards Committee

> *Subject:* Re: [LSC] File Format Restrictions for Official Parts

>

>  

>

> Take a look at the comments in this part's header:

>

> http://www.ldraw.org/cgi-bin/ptdetail.cgi?f=parts/82359.dat

>

> I'm pretty sure this type of situation is what William is talking 

> about, both for parts that are already official and get an update, and 

> for parts that were put on the tracker under the old rules.

>

> I'm somewhat ambivalent about the whole thing.  The main problem is 

> that if we say now that this part has to have the inline POV stripped, 

> then anyone who is using this part in a model will suddenly see their 

> renders go down in quality after an official update.  They're not 

> going to be happy about that, and they'll have good reason to be 

> upset.  On the flip side, since it was decided that inline POV code 

> shouldn't be in the official library, it's bad to allow it.

>

> --Travis

>

> On Nov 16, 2007 10:08 AM, Orion Pobursky <orion at ldraw.org 

> <mailto:orion at ldraw.org>> wrote:

>

> William Howard wrote:

> >> William Howard wrote:

> >>> The official stance is given here

> >>> http://www.ldraw.org/Article479.html 

> <http://www.ldraw.org/Article479.html>- which only says that it is

> >>> undesirable and not forbidden.

> >>>

> >>> Old files do matter, as old files quite frequently come back onto the

> >>> tracker.  Any parts library specification needs to allow for

> >>> pre-existing files that contain pov-ray code (one such part is the

> >>> skelton minifig head), so we need a clause which says that parts

> >>> already containing such statements are allowed to keep them, but new

> >>> parts are not allowed to include them.  I shall add something to that

> >>> effect.

> >>

> >> My stance on already official files not conforming to our set

> >> restrictions is that they don't need to be fixed right away. However,

> >> if they rotate onto the PT for any reason then they need to been fixed.

> >>

> >> -Orion

> >>

>

> > Even if that means removing pov-ray code - which has been decided by the

> > PT Admins that it can (and should) stay?

> >

> > W

>

> Maybe we're talking about 2 different things here.  I'm referring to

> parts that have already been officially released.  Are you talking about

> parts that are certified but not released?

>

> Basically I see 2 different types of parts: Officially released parts

> and those on the PT.  Are far as Parts Standards for Official Parts (or

> whatever we decide to call it) document is concerned, the only parts

> that apply are those currently on the PT or any future part submitted to

> the PT (this includes Officially Released parts that are submitted to

> the PT to be revised or fixed).  In other words, I feel that if it's on

> the PT, then it need to conform to our standards, period.  If it's not

> on the PT then it's OK until such time as it is on the PT.

>

>

> -Orion

>

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