[Coco] Devastated. Long term OVCC project falls short
James Jones
jejones3141 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 21 08:36:06 EDT 2019
The standard refers to two kinds of environments a C program can run in:
- a "hosted environment", one with an underlying operating system
- a "freestanding environment", without an OS. In a freestanding
environment, there's only a small set of library functions one can count on
having (and hence only a small set of the standard header files), and not
all types need be supported. What exactly happens upon return from main is
implementation-defined.
For gcc6809, we're talking a freestanding environment, unless someone does
a LOT of work.
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:24 AM Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net> wrote:
> On Monday 21 October 2019 02:27:36 William Astle wrote:
>
> > On 2019-10-20 11:50 p.m., Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> gcc6809 cannot generate OS9 binaries. Its support for position
> > >> independent code is largely untested and almost certainly
> > >> incomplete and it doesn't understand the specific requirements of
> > >> the OS9 environment.
> > >
> > > I can confirm that too, its a total waste of time to attempt an os9
> > > binary because of that problem using gcc6809. It knows nothing about
> > > PIC. AFAIAC it should be removed from circulation.
> >
> > That last bit is going a bit far. Remember that not everything is OS9.
> > In fact, I would go so far as to say that the *majority* of stuff is
> > not OS9, however much a non-trivial fraction of the Coco community
> > wishes otherwise. (That's not a criticism of OS9 or the folks who
> > support it.)
> >
> > Obviously, you shouldn't try to use a tool for a purpose it is
> > unsuited for. Thus, gcc6809 should not (and cannot, in fact) be used
> > for making OS9 binaries. It is simply not suited for that purpose.
> > That doesn't mean it should be removed from circulation. It *is*
> > perfectly suitable for other purposes.
>
> What os is it usefull on?
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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