[Coco] Looking for rma or r63 source.

Fri Dec 6 15:25:03 EST 2019

I think that we need to get as suspicious of people that declare they 
have the original copy of "The Bible" written by "GOD".

Provenance is a pivotal vernacular in the art world.

 From the French word, provenir, meaning “to come from,” it proves the 
history of ownership of a specific piece of art. Provenance is the 
documentation that authenticates a particular art piece.

It's all in the "Provenance" which we don't have.

There has been so very much disassembly of CoCo programs and comments 
added over the years going way back past the memory of some people that 
they think they have the original and not a comments added disassembly 
of the original program.

I am not declaring that I can tell the difference, it would take the 
word of someone who at least worked at Microware. That is, word of 
someone who left the very restricted 6809 world to earn a living on 
68000 systems like K____ D______ who worked on the unreleased version of 
OS-9.

SHF

On 12/6/2019 12:05 PM, Bill Nobel wrote:
> Before you say they are disassemblies LOOK at the source code it is pure C. These are from Microware specifically for the 6809.  It was split off of the C compiler to create the level 2 development system.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:01 PM, Stephen Fischer <SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Then likely they are NOT the ORIGINAL Source Code for "RMA" and "RLINK" but another disassembly from the binaries.
>>
>> Which makes the "R63" Source that I STOLE from the expected to fail "OpenCoCo" website of the new CoCo3.com owner also likely to be another disassembly converted to "C" Code "RMA" which then had 6309 code added.
>>
>> So I was wrong in saying that we had the source for all the compiler.
>>
>> I am about to look at a couple of files on Bill Pierce's site that likely will not be the original either.
>>
>> SHF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/6/2019 11:49 AM, Bill Nobel wrote:
>>> Also to add a note these sources are on the EOU Beta 4 in the ‘source code/c’ directory.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Stephen Fischer <SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just those two?
>>>>
>>>> Likely as "RMA" and "RLINK" were in the "Development System" and not the original "C" Compiler package.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Pierce made a webpage with information about the "C" Compiler, a good part of that webpage is outdated!
>>>>
>>>> No Source is listed, where did you get "RMA" and "RLINK" source?
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps sending the source to Guillaume Major and suggesting that the "C" Compiler needs a directory of source.
>>>>
>>>> SHF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/6/2019 11:05 AM, Bill Nobel wrote:
>>>>> I have RMA and RLINK sources, but not R63.   It is the full C source code.  They may give you something to work with.  I do know that they need to be updated as they are still pre Y2K so make goofs up on checking dates and times for recompile. I also have the source to a updated make that adds some features the original make did not have.
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Stephen Fischer <SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only possible location of the original "C" Compiler source might be Bill Pierce. But I remember a couple of disasters causing it to be lost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try contacting him directly for information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other than building a Time Machine and going to Des Moines about the last time I was there (Boy there were lots of signs offering some meat product on the way into town.) and breaking in and stealing the archive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one attempt I made to obtain a computer that the source might have been that had passed hands was met here with such violence it was really unbelievable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People shoot themselves in the heart here sometimes, and innocent bystanders quite often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SHF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/5/2019 10:24 PM, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
>>>>>>> Damn, I was hoping that would contain source instead of a disassembly.
>>>>>>> I have some compiler source, and once I get it producing "correct"
>>>>>>> code, I'd like to have the original assembler to put the results
>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>> The code the compiler produces works, but has a slightly different
>>>>>>> (more efficient, actually) calling convention from the libraries we
>>>>>>> have available, so the binaries it produces don't run correctly;
>>>>>>> hacking the compiler to use the old calling convention seems like
>>>>>>> it'll be easier than modifying and recompiling all the old libraries,
>>>>>>> so that's my approach.
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 1:04 AM Stephen Fischer <SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I must be on your kill list, I gave Guillaume Major the two programs you
>>>>>>>> asked for before and posted their location here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He placed r63 here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Programming/Source/R63/R63%20(David%20Breeding).zip
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I made a statement that we have source for all of the "C" Compiler, I
>>>>>>>> will need to think and search my files for "rma".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It may be Bill Pierce that has modified the single pass "C" Compiler who
>>>>>>>> has "rma" source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, "r63" appears to have been written in "C".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SHF
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/5/2019 9:37 PM, Walter Zambotti wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if source exists for rma or r63?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping it is written in C as this will make it more useful to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Walter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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