[Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk

Sat Sep 1 20:18:49 EDT 2018

Got this as a reply to the hex editor i sent you

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From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of John Mautz <ejmautz2 at gmail.com>
Sent: September 1, 2018 7:21:04 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk

Rietveld,

I didn't get your email with the editor, but since you posted the name, I
was able to download it (maybe google ate it if were an exe file).  There
are 5 bytes on the XTROM30.bin file at the beginning that are not on the 23
ROM, so I nuked those saved as a test and burned a ROM.  I now get the boot
logo COCO3 XT-ROM VERSION 3.0 and it does tests the first 512K of memory in
my CoCo3.  So that is progress.

I'm not sure where the end of the program really is so I didn't try to chop
anything off the ROM bin file.

They put an Easter egg of the the game of Life so I can see some of that
test in the ROM file so at least to me it makes it hard to tell where the
end of the ROM is vs the junk.

Now with the splash screen and memory checker in place, there is at least
one difference...  On the 2.3 ROM if I turn the hard drive off, it check's
the floppy drive and then dumps to a READY prompt.  With the state of my
3.0 ROM, it just sits there after the memory check.  So still more work to
do but things are better.  If someone knows this ROM magic, I'm willing to
share my 2.3 and edited 3.0 file.

Thanks,
John.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 5:25 PM rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I just sent neo to you. It's a small single. Exe.    Open one window with
> the old rom and a second neo window with the new rom.   Comapre the start
> and end of the two and delete and save as needed
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry
>   Original Message
> From: rietveld rietveld
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 5:22 PM
> To: Jim McClanahan
> Reply To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk
>
>
> Use the program HDD Hex Editor Neo for Windows
> I will email it to you right now
>
> Basically use it to open your old rom
>
> Now open the new rom(.bin) and compare the beginning. Just delete until
> you get to the same start as the known working one. That will remove the
> header. Now scroll to to the bottom of the new rom and compare it to the
> bottom of the known working one. Delete any values after the end of the
> original
>
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry
>   Original Message
> From: Jim McClanahan
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2018 5:06 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Reply To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk
>
>
> You'll know the length of the header. (It won't be long--I'm not familiar
> with CoCo binaries, but maybe a load and an entry address at most.) Then
> you have to figure out how to remove them. I have read how to do it before
> but don't remember the details.
>
> Good news is it is probably just sorting through a few steps and reburning
> the eprom.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 4:54 PM John Mautz <ejmautz2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'll have to spend some time looking.  When I find it, then what?
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 3:16 PM Jim McClanahan <jim30109 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The first two locations are an ASCII flag. On the working one you have
> > > "DK", but the nonworking one doesn't make sense.
> > >
> > > I think think the point about having a header you need to pull out is
> > spot
> > > on. Peek a few more locations higher and you will likely find the "DK"
> > > again.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 11:47 AM John Mautz <ejmautz2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > > I have a Multi-Pack....  CoCo-XT is in slot 3.
> > > >
> > > > working v2.3
> > > >     PEEK(&HC000) = 68
> > > >     PEEK(&HC001) = 75
> > > >
> > > > Not working v3.0 - fresh burn
> > > >     PEEK(&HC000) = 171
> > > >     PEEK(&HC001) = 186
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 11:32 AM Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, with the controller plugged in with the new ROM, what do you
> > get
> > > > > when you PEEK(&HC000) and PEEK(&HC001)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sep 1, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Jim McClanahan <jim30109 at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you PEEK () the ROM from BASIC? That would tell you if the
> ROM
> > > was
> > > > on
> > > > > > the bus and what the contents are.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not exactly sure what you are doing, so that may not be helpful.
> > But
> > > my
> > > > > > experience with EPROMs is that if they erase and I can
> successfully
> > > > > verify
> > > > > > the write, they work. In my homebrew systems it is usually a
> wiring
> > > or
> > > > > > timing problem when they don't.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > good luck,
> > > > > > Jim
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 1, 2018, 11:21 AM John Mautz <ejmautz2 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ok, received my tube of 2764A chips.  I've tried twice (each
> with
> > a
> > > > new
> > > > > >> chip) and when I put it in my CoCo-XT card it does not recognize
> > the
> > > > > >> CoCo-XT.  It just boots to the normal CoCo3 screen.  When I put
> > the
> > > > old
> > > > > >> v2.3 ROM back it it boots fine so I didn't blow that part up.
> > Both
> > > > > chips
> > > > > >> passed verification, so that should be fine.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm using a USBPrg GQ-4X programmer (mine is the 4x not the 4x4
> > > which
> > > > is
> > > > > >> the current version -
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4282
> > > > > >> ,
> > > > > >> only for reference to help me out not an advertisement, as
> > naturally
> > > > I'm
> > > > > >> having trouble).  When I open the XT-ROM30.Bin, I have a choice
> of
> > > > Read
> > > > > >> mode, Fill Mode and File offset. I just chose defaults, Read
> Mode
> > =
> > > > > Normal,
> > > > > >> Fill Mode = Normal, File Offset = 000000.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Before I start the trial and error process of burn, test, UV
> > erase,
> > > > does
> > > > > >> anyone have any guidance?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> John.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 10:35 PM John Mautz <
> ejmautz2 at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thank you all.  I'm just waiting on my EPROMS to arrive and I
> can
> > > > start
> > > > > >>> playing.  You help is much appreciated.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 4:23 PM rietveld rietveld <
> > > > > rietveldh at hotmail.com
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> I actually have 3.1 or 3.01.    I can upload that if it's not
> in
> > > the
> > > > > >>>> archive. As far as I know that was the final release.
> > > Unfortunately
> > > > I
> > > > > >> don't
> > > > > >>>> think I have the manual for it but I definitely have the ROM
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> > > > > >>>>  Original Message
> > > > > >>>> From: tonym
> > > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 4:14 PM
> > > > > >>>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > > > >>>> Reply To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Pretty sure I uploaded the 3.0 ROM, and manual, a few years
> > back.
> > > > > might
> > > > > >>>> be on "THE ftp" though...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Tony
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> ---- Original Message ----
> > > > > >>>> From: "Grumpyx" <grumpyx at gmail.com>
> > > > > >>>> Sent: 8/26/2018 9:39:03 PM
> > > > > >>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <
> > > coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo-XT RTC ROM and disk
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The color computer archive has them:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/search?q=burke&ww=0&cat=&cs=0
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The XT-ROM zip file has several version including 3.0
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 6:55 PM John Mautz <
> ejmautz2 at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Hello,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> I picked up a CoCo-XT RTC a few months ago.  It works great
> as
> > it
> > > > > came
> > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > >>>>> what I was told is a 5MB HD.  My CoCo-XT has the Western
> > Digital
> > > > > >>>> 1002A-WX1
> > > > > >>>>> card int it.  When it boots it show the Burke & Burke ROM
> > version
> > > > to
> > > > > >> be
> > > > > >>>>> 2.3.  I don't see a version on the CoCo-XT RTC card (other
> than
> > > the
> > > > > >>>>> copyright 1988, though it could be on the back of the card).
> > > > I've
> > > > > >>>> doing
> > > > > >>>>> some searches for about a week now and I must be searching
> the
> > > > wrong
> > > > > >>>> way as
> > > > > >>>>> I'm not finding any hits.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> This brings me to my 2 questions:
> > > > > >>>>> 1) Does anyone have a newer version of the ROM?  If so can
> you
> > > > > >> provide a
> > > > > >>>>> link or send it to me?  I have searched around and all I can
> > find
> > > > is
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>>>> manual for version 2.4 and a 2.5 supplement. - BTW: I'm
> willing
> > > to
> > > > > >> read
> > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > >>>>> upload my version 2.3 ROM if someone wants it.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2) Has anyone see the disk imaged some place?  I've looked
> and
> > I
> > > > seen
> > > > > >>>> where
> > > > > >>>>> it used to be sold for $24.99 but no links to the actual
> > > software.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> So other than completeness, why do I ask?  I was able to get
> a
> > > > Tandy
> > > > > >>>> 20MB
> > > > > >>>>> external hard drive.  The PS was dead so I replaced that and
> > > would
> > > > > >> like
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>>> use the Seagate ST-225 that came with it.  Therefore I need
> the
> > > > disk
> > > > > >>>> with
> > > > > >>>>> the utilities on it.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>> John.
> > > > > >>>>>
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