[Coco] C VS Basic Coco
Scott Wendt
malfunct at msn.com
Tue Feb 13 20:07:43 EST 2018
AppleSoft BASIC was an interpreted language. There were compilers made by third parties but the vast majority of AppleSoft BASIC programs used the interpreter built into ROM just like we use ECB from the ROM on the CoCo.
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Subject: Re: [Coco] C VS Basic Coco
Scott
I never used any of the software compilers for AppleSoft but I believe you.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:34 PM, Scott Wendt <malfunct at msn.com> wrote:
> BASIC09 is definitely better than AppleSoft in this regard.
> ________________________________
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Coco] C VS Basic Coco
>
> GOTOs are not a good way to do loops anyway. Fortunately, Basic09 has loop
> structures (REPEAT/UNTIL, WHILE/ENDWHILE and LOOP/ENDLOOP) so using GOTO is
> limited in use anyway. The exceptions are ON <expression> GOTO and ON ERROR
> GOTO. There is also IF/THEN <line reference> which uses a line number and
> an implied GOTO. Those can be handy at times.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Feb 13, 2018 1:15 PM, "Scott Wendt" <malfunct at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't want to stir up any arguments, because whatever language that
> gets
> > the job done and is the one you want to use is the one you should use,
> but
> > I think the things that make BASIC easy to get started with are the same
> > ones that makes it poorly suited for complex projects.
> >
> > A lot of the extra "stuff" in structured languages are there to represent
> > program structure and does really lend to the readability and
> > maintainability of large complex projects. For me personally brackets and
> > indentation are super important for identifying logical blocks of code.
> >
> > I am currently working on porting a large (on the order of 50k lines in
> > multiple files) BASIC program written in AppleSoft BASIC to C# and
> > following what is happening in the BASIC code is tedious. There are more
> > "lines" in the C# equivalent but they are nicely organized and
> > compartmentalized and I think will prove to be easier to understand and
> > maintain. Using GOTO to implement while loops is my current nemesis, they
> > have me going crosseyed.
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> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:48 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [Coco] C VS Basic Coco
> >
> > I'd also say the C example is doing more than the BASIC example which
> adds
> > to it looking more complex.
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> >
> > int main () {
> > for(int a = 10; a < 20; a++) {
> > printf("%d\n", a);
> > }
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> > To me, that's just as clear as the BASIC, but I have a background in
> > c/c++/c# so I'm familiar and comfortable with it.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Taylor, Phillip L CIV <
> > Phillip.L.Taylor at uscg.mil> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I the reason I like basic is because it's much easer to learn and read
> > the
> > > source code. The example below 8 lines of basic code 6 lines of code
> vs
> > C
> > > is 8 lines of code.
> > >
> > > Basic is more simple less code:
> > >
> > > Loop
> > > A = A +1
> > > Print A
> > > Exitif A < 20
> > > EndExit
> > > Endloop
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > C Code is harder to learn:
> > >
> > > #include <stdio.h>
> > >
> > > int main () {
> > >
> > > int a;
> > >
> > > /* for loop execution */
> > > for( a = 10; a < 20; a = a + 1 ){
> > > printf("value of a: %d\n", a);
> > > }
> > >
> > > return 0;
> > > }
> > >
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