[Coco] NitrOS9 question
Dave Philipsen
dave at davebiz.com
Sat Oct 7 03:02:10 EDT 2017
Very interesting, David. Thanks for the quick update.
Dave
> On Oct 6, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> To fix my booting issue I just added sysgo into the OS9Boot file to fill up
> some space (*shrug*) and works fine. I know it doesn't make any sense, but
> maybe Robert, Curtis, Bill, or Bill can give some feedback on this.
>
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>
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so it’s larger than $4401. I’d be curious to see what would happen if
>> you removed rb1773, d0, d1, and d2 from the bootfile. That would probably
>> get it down below $4401 in size.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:19 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Here is the directory from the root:
>>>
>>> {Term|02}/DD:dir -e
>>>
>>> Directory of . 2017/09/28 23:04
>>>
>>> Owner Last modified Attributes Sector Bytecount Name
>>> ----- ---------------- ---------- ------ --------- ----
>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 ------wr 13 485F OS9Boot
>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 5D B20 CMDS
>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 66 1C0 SYS
>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 6F 100 DEFS
>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 ----r-wr 78 F00 ccbkrn
>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 --e-rewr 88 1FF sysgo
>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:01 ----r-wr 62D F9 startup
>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 62F 60 NITROS9
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> |
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>> |
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>> |
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>> |
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>> |
>>> | |
>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet? |
>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so how big is the bootfile?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I can't test this on a CoCo3FPGA right now I did finally get my
>>>>> Deluxe RS232 Pak working. I modified the make files for the NitrOS-9
>>>>> project and made myself a CoCoSDC headless that uses the sc6551 driver
>>>> and
>>>>> term modules. Here is my short ident of my OS9Boot file. I tested it
>>>> and
>>>>> it does work and with the standard Shell+ as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> {Term|02}/DD:ident os9boot -s
>>>>> 19 $C0 $FA063B . KrnP2
>>>>> 13 $C1 $FB10BD . IOMan
>>>>> 1 $C0 $9D910E . Init
>>>>> 37 $D1 $245E32 . RBF
>>>>> 2 $E1 $84C07C . RBSuper
>>>>> 22 $21 $230904 . llcocosdc
>>>>> 82 $F1 $DB0F90 . SD0
>>>>> 82 $F1 $081F95 . SD1
>>>>> 82 $F1 $F8621C . DD
>>>>> 1 $E1 $A4EB50 . rb1773
>>>>> 82 $F1 $045CD6 . D0
>>>>> 82 $F1 $803FAD . D1
>>>>> 82 $F1 $8C9A43 . D2
>>>>> 18 $D1 $55C62E . SCF
>>>>> 10 $E1 $67C110 . sc6551
>>>>> 83 $F1 $64212E . Term
>>>>> 5 $D1 $6F9717 . PipeMan
>>>>> 2 $E1 $895C5F . Piper
>>>>> 80 $F1 $D512FB . Pipe
>>>>> 9 $C1 $9A36A3 . Clock
>>>>> 1 $21 $5833D2 . Clock2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------+
>>>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor
>> |
>>>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay
>>>> |
>>>>> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/
>> user/PacoOtaktay/live
>>>> |
>>>>> | Websites: http://dwladd.com & http://www.theterrorzone.com
>>>> |
>>>>> | G+: https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657
>>>> |
>>>>> | G+: https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay
>>>> |
>>>>> |
>> |
>>>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?
>> |
>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------+
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to do some experiments with this on a real CoCo 3, too.
>>>> I'm
>>>>>> using the CoCo3FPGA right now. It's much easier for me to test things
>>>> on
>>>>>> this platform because I have the ability to boot with an alternate
>>>> bootfile
>>>>>> just by holding down the ALT key while booting. I can make changes to
>>>> the
>>>>>> OS9Boot.1 file while still retaining the original OS9Boot file. Also,
>>>>>> because of Brett's bootloader, I don't have to do anything special to
>>>>>> generate the bootfile. I just merge all of the modules needed and the
>>>>>> bootloader will load it no matter if it's fragmented or where it
>>>> resides on
>>>>>> the disk structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/6/2017 7:50 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We ran into the same issue when creating the headless Drivewire disks
>>>> some
>>>>>>> years ago. If the boot file became too small, things went badly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately Boisy solved this in our case so I can't give you
>>>> specifics.
>>>>>>> Not sure if he still monitors this list, fairly sure he intended to
>>>> patch
>>>>>>> the nitros9 source to correct the bug. Perhaps the fix got lost or
>> was
>>>> not
>>>>>>> comprehensive. In any case, I can confirm a third case where small
>>>> boot
>>>>>>> file became an issue in itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aaron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:35 AM, "Neal Crook" <foofoobedoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my mc09 l2 development I found a bug where a too - small bootfile
>>>> would
>>>>>>> hang. Padding it fixed the problem. I will look out the details over
>>>> the
>>>>>>> weekend and let you know, so we can see if our experiences tally. It
>>>> would
>>>>>>> be good to know that it was a generic problem and not specific to my
>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>> hardware. I spent quite a lot of time in emulation trying to track it
>>>> down
>>>>>>> without success
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 12:40, "Dave Philipsen" <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haha! That doesn't work either. But as soon as I re-assemble Term
>>>> with
>>>>>>> 265 extra bytes in it, it boots just fine. So it really does appear
>>>> to be
>>>>>>> an issue with size and not order.
>>>>>>
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