[Coco] NitrOS9 question

Dave Philipsen dave at davebiz.com
Fri Oct 6 21:26:57 EDT 2017


Ok, so it’s larger than $4401.  I’d be curious to see what would happen if you removed rb1773, d0, d1, and d2 from the bootfile.  That would probably get it down below $4401 in size.

Dave

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:19 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Here is the directory from the root:
> 
> {Term|02}/DD:dir -e
> 
> Directory of .  2017/09/28 23:04
> 
> Owner  Last modified   Attributes Sector Bytecount Name
> ----- ---------------- ---------- ------ --------- ----
>  0  2017/10/06 15:49  ------wr      13      485F OS9Boot
>  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      5D       B20 CMDS
>  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      66       1C0 SYS
>  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      6F       100 DEFS
>  0  2017/09/28 21:12  ----r-wr      78       F00 ccbkrn
>  0  2017/09/28 21:12  --e-rewr      88       1FF sysgo
>  0  2017/09/28 21:01  ----r-wr     62D        F9 startup
>  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr     62F        60 NITROS9
> 
> 
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> 
>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, so how big is the bootfile?
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dave,
>>> 
>>> Since I can't test this on a CoCo3FPGA right now I did finally get my
>>> Deluxe RS232 Pak working.  I modified the make files for the NitrOS-9
>>> project and made myself a CoCoSDC headless that uses the sc6551 driver
>> and
>>> term modules.  Here is my short ident of my OS9Boot file.  I tested it
>> and
>>> it does work and with the standard Shell+ as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> {Term|02}/DD:ident os9boot -s
>>> 19 $C0 $FA063B . KrnP2
>>> 13 $C1 $FB10BD . IOMan
>>>  1 $C0 $9D910E . Init
>>> 37 $D1 $245E32 . RBF
>>>  2 $E1 $84C07C . RBSuper
>>> 22 $21 $230904 . llcocosdc
>>> 82 $F1 $DB0F90 . SD0
>>> 82 $F1 $081F95 . SD1
>>> 82 $F1 $F8621C . DD
>>>  1 $E1 $A4EB50 . rb1773
>>> 82 $F1 $045CD6 . D0
>>> 82 $F1 $803FAD . D1
>>> 82 $F1 $8C9A43 . D2
>>> 18 $D1 $55C62E . SCF
>>> 10 $E1 $67C110 . sc6551
>>> 83 $F1 $64212E . Term
>>>  5 $D1 $6F9717 . PipeMan
>>>  2 $E1 $895C5F . Piper
>>> 80 $F1 $D512FB . Pipe
>>>  9 $C1 $9A36A3 . Clock
>>>  1 $21 $5833D2 . Clock2
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to do some experiments with this on a real CoCo 3, too.
>> I'm
>>>> using the CoCo3FPGA right now.  It's much easier for me to test things
>> on
>>>> this platform because I have the ability to boot with an alternate
>> bootfile
>>>> just by holding down the ALT key while booting.  I can make changes to
>> the
>>>> OS9Boot.1 file while still retaining the original OS9Boot file.  Also,
>>>> because of Brett's bootloader, I don't have to do anything special to
>>>> generate the bootfile.  I just merge all of the modules needed and the
>>>> bootloader will load it no matter if it's fragmented or where it
>> resides on
>>>> the disk structure.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/6/2017 7:50 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We ran into the same issue when creating the headless Drivewire disks
>> some
>>>>> years ago.  If the boot file became too small, things went badly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately Boisy solved this in our case so I can't give you
>> specifics.
>>>>> Not sure if he still monitors this list, fairly sure he intended to
>> patch
>>>>> the nitros9 source to correct the bug. Perhaps the fix got lost or was
>> not
>>>>> comprehensive.  In any case, I can confirm a third case where small
>> boot
>>>>> file became an issue in itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Aaron
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:35 AM, "Neal Crook" <foofoobedoo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my mc09 l2 development I found a bug where a too - small bootfile
>> would
>>>>> hang. Padding it fixed the problem. I will look out the details over
>> the
>>>>> weekend and let you know, so we can see if our experiences tally. It
>> would
>>>>> be good to know that it was a generic problem and not specific to my
>>>>> target
>>>>> hardware. I spent quite a lot of time in emulation trying to track it
>> down
>>>>> without success
>>>>> 
>>>>> Neal
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 12:40, "Dave Philipsen" <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Haha!  That doesn't work either.  But as soon as I re-assemble Term
>> with
>>>>> 265 extra bytes in it, it boots just fine.  So it really does appear
>> to be
>>>>> an issue with size and not order.
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