[Coco] NitrOS9 question

Dave Philipsen dave at davebiz.com
Thu Oct 5 23:33:13 EDT 2017


Thanks, David.  I appreciate the help.  I don't do Facebook though. I 
will keep plugging away on this though.  I'm sure there's an answer.

Dave


On 10/5/2017 10:25 PM, David Ladd wrote:
> Dave,
>
> No not specifically for the CoCo3FPGA that I know of.  I know there 
> are a few versions of the headless for DriveWire 4 that use the 
> DriveWire 4 windowing stuff.
>
> I did find my Deluxe RS232 Pak, but it doesn't seem to be working and 
> yes I cleaned it :P  It just hasn't been used since 1991 or 1992?
>
> I was just wanting to see if I could modify one of the build scripts 
> and replace all the drivewire stuff with just the term_sc6551.dt and 
> sc6551.dr and see if I could get it to work on my real CoCo 3 as a test.
>
> If you are on Facebook you can also chat with me in more real time. :)
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> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com 
> <mailto:dave at davebiz.com>> wrote:
>
>     Maybe I should try one of the headless builds.  Is there one for
>     CoCo3FPGA?
>
>     Dave
>
>
>
>     On 10/5/2017 9:35 PM, David Ladd wrote:
>
>         Dave,
>
>         That is odd.
>
>         >From what I can see in the repo the same SHELL is used for
>         even the
>         headless builds.
>
>         If I can find a working Deluxe RS232 Pak.  I will see if I can
>         get it
>         working on my real CoCo 3.
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>         On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Dave Philipsen
>         <dave at davebiz.com <mailto:dave at davebiz.com>> wrote:
>
>             Look in nitros9-v3.3.0/level2/defs/Defsfile
>
>             See if it's listed there.  It may be of no consequence
>             though. Interesting
>             thing is that I can tell sysgo to run another program on
>             startup instead of
>             shell and it will run.  The only way I can get shell to
>             run is if I include
>             VTIO in the bootfile.
>
>             Dave
>
>
>
>             On 10/5/2017 9:00 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>
>                 Dave, where did you get your sources? I have searched
>                 the entire
>                 repository for "systype" and found nothing. I remember
>                 systype from vanilla
>                 OS9, but I don't think it's used anymore.
>                 The current VTIO source does reference "cocovtio.d"
>                 though.
>
>
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>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com
>                 <mailto:dave at davebiz.com>>
>                 To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com
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>                 Sent: Thu, Oct 5, 2017 6:00 pm
>                 Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS9 question
>
>                 Ok, so now I am delving in to vtio.asm and I've hit
>                 another brick wall.
>                 I thought I had all of the files required to build
>                 NitrOS9 but I see a
>                 reference to a file called "systype" in the defsfile.
>                 My defsfile only
>                 references os9defs, rbfdefs, scfdefs, and cocodefs. 
>                 Where do I find the
>                 systype file?  Perhaps it contains the refrerence for
>                 SHFTCLR and
>                 ohers.DaveOn 10/5/2017 4:12 PM, David Ladd wrote:>
>                 Dave,>> I have not tried
>                 NitrOS-9 L2 as a headless configuration yet. Looking
>                 at> the headless
>                 section in the build process for the NitrOS-9
>                 Project.  I> don't see the
>                 keyboard, joy, or snd driver in the headless area so
>                 that is> a good sign.
>                 I do see a scdwv.dr and term_scdwv.dt which tells me
>                 that you> probably can
>                 use the term_sc6551.dt and sc6551.dr.>> I myself can
>                 not verify this as my
>                 CoCo3FPGA is not in working condition> right now.  As
>                 soon as I get my
>                 Analog board back I will certainly try some> of this
>                 out.>>
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>                 On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dave Philipsen
>                 <dave at davebiz.com <mailto:dave at davebiz.com>>
>                 wrote:>>> Ummm....I shouldn't need to. I've defined T2
>                 as the default
>                 console in>> Init.>>>> In fact, as I'm writing this I
>                 just tried adding
>                 Term back into the>> bootfile and I still have the
>                 same problem.  I get the
>                 Init and sysgo>> sign-on banners but the shell is not
>                 chained.>>>>>>
>                 Dave>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2017 2:04 PM, David Ladd
>                 wrote:>>>>> Dave,>>>>>>
>                 I think you still need a TERM descriptor?  Though in
>                 this case you>>>
>                 probably>>> need a TERM descriptor based on T2?>>>>>>
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>                 ------------------------------------------+>>>>>>>>>
>                 On Thu, Oct 5, 2017
>                 at 1:16 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com
>                 <mailto:dave at davebiz.com>> wrote:>>>>>> Ok, so I've
>                 successfully eliminated CoWin, KeyDrv, SndDrv, JoyDrv,
>                 RBDW,>>>> DWIO,
>                 RAMD, R0, and Term from my bootfile and the CoCo3FPGA
>                 boots up>>>> with
>                 a>>>> shell on T2.  But, when I try to remove VTIO I
>                 get the signon
>                 message>>>> from>>>> Init on T2 but I don't get a
>                 shell.  To my knowledge
>                 VTIO is simply a>>>> device driver module for the SCF
>                 window devices.  If I
>                 have no window>>>> device descriptors in the bootfile,
>                 then, why is VTIO
>                 needed?  See output>>>> from 'mdir' below:>>>>>>>>>>>>
>                 KrnP2       Init
>                      Clock      Clock2      IOMan  RBF>>>> SCF       
>                  PipeMan
>                   RBSuper     LLCoCo3FPGA Piper SD1>>>> DD         
>                 SC6551      VTIO
>                 T2          Pipe CCBKrn>>>> MDir   Shell       Date   
>                     DeIniz
>                 Echo Iniz>>>> Link        Load  Save Unlink>>>>>>>>>>>>
>                 Dave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 11:12 PM, Dave
>                 Philipsen
>                 wrote:>>>>>>>> Yep, it's an FPGA board so it's a
>                 synthesized 6809 running
>                 at 25 MHz.>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 9:23 PM,
>                 Brett Gordon
>                 wrote:>>>>>>>>>> I take it your platform is also 6809
>                 based? Cool.. Sounds
>                 like a neat>>>>>> idea.  Loads of fun.  kudos on the
>                 bootloader mod - submit patch!>>>>>>>>>>>>
>                 brett>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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