[Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10

Thu Jun 1 18:47:48 EDT 2017

Steve, no offence taken at all. I just want people to know where to complain to get the best results. Anything posted in the issues page gets emailed to any developers on the project (few at the moment) as do any replies. Also, any github subscriber who "follows" the project will get the emails. At the same time, all messages are preserved in the forum, by topic, for review, making it easy to scroll through the issues and pick items to work on.

To me VCC is the best Coco 3 emulator, not because of it's features, but it's simplicity and stability. As long as I'm involved in the "official" release, it will always move forward and never backward. One feature will not be broken on the next release just because someone changed another feature in another emulation. I like VCC for that reason, one job, one emulator. It does what I want it to do and does it well. To add anything else becomes icing on the cake so to speak.

Bill Pierce
"Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Strowbridge <ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 1, 2017 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10

Thanks for the information Bill, and hopefully I have not offended anyonewho does work on this, or plans to, I like the product, and I use it, and Iwill try and put some of my "two cents" in the proper place on the site.Steve Strowbridge, akaThe Original Gamer Stevie Strowhttp://ogsteviestrow.comogsteviestrow@gmail.comOn Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Steve, we may actually have a new release coming and may have the aspect> issue resolved. This was an unfinished leftover from the original author> and with no one working on the project since it's release to open source> almost 2 years ago, until recently, nothing has changed but the build> environment from VS6 to VS2015. Things may actually start to get better> soon.>> BTW, unless people post to the "Issues" section of the VCC project github> site, there's no way to keep up with every FB & cocolist complaint. Listing> them in the Issues preserves them for whoever finally works on it. It's our> only checklist to see what problems there are.>> https://github.com/VCCE/VCC/issues>>>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Steve Strowbridge <ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Thu, Jun 1, 2017 1:00 pm> Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10>> I've had issues with VCC and switching full screen as well, which I try> toavoid, it does do a hard switch to your computer's resolution and> doesn'tgracefully return the OS to it's previous state, and, as mentioned,> thisresolution switch screws with how you had icons arranged on your> desktop,etc., and yes, I keep my drivers up to date all the time, I'm> leaningtowards this being the program not the driver.  Not meant as a bash,> butmore as a highly educated guess/opinion.As mentioned it can be maximized> and re-sized, by turning on that option,but it doesn't scale the aspect> ratio, and it's damn near impossible tomanually make the "perfect square"> by dragging it around.I have learned to live with it either in it's native> size of in a distortedresolution size when I'm just working on typing in my> BASIC code.  I don'tsee a newer version since 2.01b [Edit] and I recall> hearing a few peopletalk about some forks they were working on, which is> the latest/greatestversion we should be using?I use VCC primarily for my> programming in BASIC series I'm doing for myselfand YouTube, as far as CoCo> emulators go, this one is pretty user friendlyto install and hit the ground> running with, and my series was designed andaimed at non-technophiles to be> as user friendly as possible.My arrangement I use to record, has the BASIC> manual in PDF and VCC on myleft monitor, and on my right monitor I have my> recording/capture softwaretake these elements and arrange them on screen.I> keep VCC in it's default resolution and aspect ration, but I zoom it inwith> my software and make the window much larger, where it's about 3/4 ofmy PC> screen, and it's a lot easier to read and manage that way.The ongoing> debate and discussion on which emulator is "best" will probablynever be> "solved" everyone has their favorite, each one has it's strengthsand> weaknesses, and anybody who has a project, such as an emulator has theright> to make them as they see fit.I tend to bounce between all three at this> point.  I use VCC for my BASICprogramming series, I'll use XROAR for a> quick and easy way to play a CoCo1/2 disk based game, and then I use MAME> for things that are cartridgebased, or have some issue in XROAR, and for> anything CoCo 3 related, I usemy real CoCo 3 which is connected to my PC> via an RGB-toS-Video adapter,and I watch it, play it and record it on my PC> via video capture softwarewhich give me a live preview of the CoCo> screen.Simple, right?I am very grateful for all the emulators we have, no> one, and not thing isperfect, so none of my statements are meant as a> "bash" or a "nod" towardsany particular product, I like them all, I use> them all, and they're allgreat in their own way.Steve Strowbridge, akaThe> Original Gamer Stevie Strowhttp://ogsteviestrow.> comogsteviestrow at gmail.comOn Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Wayne Campbell <> asa.rand at gmail.com> wrote:> Thanks, Bill. I never saw that option before.> It's set now. The screen> looks a little wierd stretched in the width, but> it's livable. :)>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco> <> coco at maltedmedia.com>> wrote:>> > Wayne, VCC DOES support the maximize> button. You must check "Allow> Resize"> > in the Config/Display" tab.> >> I've run VCC on WinXP, Vista, 7, 8, & 10 on square, wide screen and>> double> > monitors, and the full screen didn't act as you describe, nor has> anyone> > else complained of this problem. In full screen mode, VCC changes> the> video> > resolution (800x600, IIRC) and it sounds like your graphics> driver isn't> > taking it well... Try updating your graphics driver.> >> >>> >> >> >> > Bill Pierce> > "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't> stop going, no way to> > slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull> >> > My> Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> >> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> > Co-Contributor, Co-Editor> for CocoPedia> > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> >> >> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original> Message-----> > From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>> > To: CoCoList> <coco at maltedmedia.com>> > Sent: Wed, May 31, 2017 11:56 pm> > Subject:> [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10> >> > I finally tried putting> VCC into full screen mode today. I like the way> > itlooks, but I don't> like what it does to the Windows 10 windows when I> > goback to normal> mode.Every window I have open, as well as a few apps> that> > I don't, are> in theupper-left corner of the screen and are all the same> > size as the> normal VCCwindow. It took me some time to get them back the> way> > I had> them before. Idon't think this is the way VCC should behave.Along> > with a> fix to this, I would like to see VCC support the maximizebutton> and> >> maximize the window instead of forcing the user to usefull-screen. I need>> > to switch windows alot and full-screen does not makethis easy. And with>> my> > eyes these days, the normal window is almost toosmall to read.Thanks> to> all> > of you who are working to make VCC better. This isn't acomplaint> as much> as> > a feature request.-- WayneThe Structure of> I-Codehttp://www.cocopedia.> > com/wiki/index.php/The_> Structure_of_I-Codedecodehttp:> > //cococoding.com/wayne/-- Coco mailing> listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://> > pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/> listinfo/coco> >> > --> > Coco mailing list> > Coco at maltedmedia.com> >> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco> >>>>> --> Wayne>> The> Structure of I-Code> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/> index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code>> decode> http://cococoding.com/wayne/>>> --> Coco mailing list> Coco at maltedmedia.com> https://pairlist5.pair.net/> mailman/listinfo/coco>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://> pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>> --> Coco mailing list> Coco at maltedmedia.com> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco