[Coco] VCC on Mac

Tue Jun 14 10:37:52 EDT 2016

First, Stephen Fisher is not, nor ever will be associated with the VCC project. He has NO knowledge of what is going on and needs to stay out of my conversations.
NO... There is NO "VB6" code ANYWHERE in VCC,.... again, SHF needs to mind his own business. (For the newbies here, it's a long story with SHF).

The person on FB who first attempted to convert the VCC code to VS2015 was a complete douche bag and decided they would rather screw up MESS instead (thank them for the most recent bugs), so another stepped up (Gary) and did the job even better. VCC has since gone through many changes and will go through many more.
I have 2 very capable programmers who volunteered to help with VCC and welcome anyone else who wants to help. C/C++ and QT experience needed.

Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Salvador Garcia via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Cc: Salvador Garcia <salvadorgarciav at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2016 9:59 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC on Mac

I am interested in this project and have been reading all posts related to the VCC 2.x project.Something you said intrigued me:"...there are plans to convert the code to another format (away from C/C++)..."What do you mean by that? Are you saying that the VCC 2 dev team is thinking on moving to a more portable language, like Java?Unlike Paulo, I am not a seasoned c/c++ developer, but am still willing to help wherever possible, given that I have the availability. Stephen mentioned something about VB6, is any part of VCC using this language?Regards, Salvador      From: Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com> To: coco at maltedmedia.com Cc: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC on Mac   Paulo, I thought of asking him to go ahead and commit what he has, but the main problem is his project is in the middle of a lot of changes in how the whole source set is structured. To commit that unfinished, would be a disaster. Someone would try to build it (then complain) and that's impossible until he finishes his changes. Any changes one would make to the current commited sources would be redundant, as they would have to be reworked to match the style of the new (uncommited) sources. As you see, it left the whole thing in limbo. He just got too busy with work right in the middle of his conversions and could not get back to it. I received an email that he should be back at it soon as work is finally slowing down for him.What is being done is that all the various code sections (6809, 6309, gimme etc) are being moved into their own sections. Each section of the code will be "stand-alone", needing no support from the others. In the end, we hope to make it possible to just "plug" the sections together to create a Coco. The all that has to be done is to write the sections needed for the Coco 1 & 2, plus the Dragon 64. In this way, VCC can expand to cover all forms of the Coco by writing the sections needed for that model. It will also make it easier to add enhancements.After all this is done, there are plans to convert the code to another format (away from C/C++) that's easier to compile as cross-platform.If you want to play around with the current code, the best bet would be with the "VCC-1.200b" branch, as that is the current release (working). The "Master" branch is working, but the "Becker" module fails in that set.Anything you come up with would be considered for the next commit when it's finished.Take a look at the "issues" page, there's some stuff there that needs to be addressed as well.  Bill Pierce"Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPediahttp://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_PageGlobal Moderator for TRS-80/Tandy Color Computer Forumshttp://www.tandycoco.com/forum/E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com  -----Original Message-----From: Paulo Garcia <paulo.astuser at gmail.com>To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2016 9:09 amSubject: Re: [Coco] VCC on MacHi BillI cloned the repo. I understand the changes are probably too big to commitsmall chunks of code so I guess I will be waiting. On the other hand,things like this are way better handled if we keep a separated branch withthe big changes so more people can pitch in and help. Maybe the guy makingthe big changes could manage to find some time to submit whatever he has?CheersPauloOn Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Paulo, you are welcome to join the group. The only problem at the moment> is one programmer has a BUNCH of changes he has yet to commit. That's where> the main rewriting and reorganization is. The current "default" is the> current release. The current main is about 10 commits behind what's not> been committed (and a few ahead of the "default") and has drivewire issues> (all else runs well). If any of that makes any sense :-)> So we're in limbo unti the last updates have been committed and they're> not in a finished state. Until that's uploaded, any changes made to what's> there would be redundant.>>>>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> Global Moderator for TRS-80/Tandy Color Computer Forums> http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Paulo Garcia <paulo.astuser at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 7:04 pm> Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC on Mac>> Hi BillI see VCC is open sourced on Github. Is that the current version> that isbeing converted?It happens I am a seasoned C/C++ developer so if you> need help to do "some"of the work, you can contact me.CheersPauloOn Sat,> Jun 11, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:>> Paulo, we hope to get VCC running on Mac soon. We have a conversion in>> progress, but the programmer who is doing the work has been really busy> and> hasn't had time to work on it lately.> I hope to see it running> natively on Mac & Linux by the end of the summer> :-)>>>>>>> Bill Pierce>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio> Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> Global Moderator for> TRS-80/Tandy Color Computer Forums> http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From:> Paulo Garcia <paulo.astuser at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer> Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Sat, Jun 11, 2016 6:46 pm>> Subject: [Coco] VCC on Mac>> Maybe this is old news, but I am surprisingly> happy to see VCC works> justfine on OSX, using Wine.I hope to see it one> day natively running on> Mac, but for now this is justperfect.Cheers-->> --------------------------------------------Paulo-- Coco mailing listCoco>> @maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>> -->> Coco mailing list> Coco at maltedmedia.com>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>--> --------------------------------------------Paulo-- Coco mailing listCoco> @maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>> --> Coco mailing list> Coco at maltedmedia.com> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>-- --------------------------------------------Paulo-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco  -- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco