[Coco] MShell

Fri May 15 00:42:54 EDT 2015

On Thursday 14 May 2015 23:53:24 Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> In going through my archives, I only find 2 versions of rma.
> One is the original microware version, the other is the 6309 version,
> both of which produce the 2 extra zeros at the end of a ROF. I then
> checked c.asm from the MW C compiler disk and it builds ROFs without
> the 2 extra zeros.
>
> So, apparently, rma will not build proper C libraies as it (for some
> reason) adds 2 extra zeros to the end of an ROF.
>
> C Libraries will have to be built with c.asm until rma can be fixed.
>
> Gene.. do you have the sources for RMA?
>
I have a .a or 2, I'll look closer tomorrow.
>
>
>
>
> Bill Pierce
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Cc: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015 11:38 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] MShell
>
>
> I just checked, and rma is NOT built by the repo, so the 2 I have are
> from RTSI. I thought for sure rma was in the repo... That needs to be
> addresse. Just as the whole "cc.dsk" needs to be addressed. Many
> things are missing there
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
> Pierce
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> to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Pierce via Coco
> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Cc: Bill Pierce
> <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015 11:23 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco]
> MShell
>
>
> Bill, as I've told Gene, there is no problem when compiling C sources
> or even
> assembling RMA source files. All version I've tried work fine.
>
> It's
> ONLY when I
> try to compile/assemble a C library. The C libraries are left as
> ROFs (RELS as
> sometimes called) and then merged into one file with standard
> merge cmd. No
> linker is used. When the library is called by a C or RMA project,
> they are then
> Linked into the program module(s).
>
> My problem, when these ROFs
> are in their raw
> form, any program designed to work with ROFs, for
> example:
> rdump and CK's "lib"
> (like sep but for but for separating clibs back
> into ROFs) will tell me they are
> not ROFs. When these files are merged into a
> library and used in a compile,
> RLink says they are not ROFs. This does not
> happen with the other libraries I
> have downloaded, ONLY the ones I'm
> building.
>
> In examining the ROFs against
> other ROFs built from the exact same
> code (Carl Kreider's clib91), they all have
> two extra zeros at the end of each
> file. The rest of the file matches the
> original perfectly. I can't seem to
> figure out where the two extra zeros are
> being generated. Since in those sources
> (clib91), some sources are in C and some
> are in rma asm, and all show the two
> extra bytes, the only common denominator is
> rma since they do not go through the
> C compiler or c.prep.
>
> I'm going to try the
> original Microware rma tonight and
> see if that may fix it. If it does, then that
> means the rma being built by the
> repo has a bug.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Pierce
> "Charlie
> stole the handle, and the train it
> won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian
> Anderson - Jethro Tull
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Nobel
> <b_nobel at hotmail.com>
> To: CoCoList
> for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015
> 11:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco]
> MShell
>
>
> Hi Gene & Bill,  I have been watching your
> guys' posts and want to
> throw a tid
> bit of what I have for RMA.  I have 2
> versions of rma that don’t
> match you guys
> for crc or size.  Here is
> what
> I
> got:
>
> filename	size		crc
> rma		$4EAF	$F830D9
> rma.6309	$5C27	$E86F73
>
> As
> far as
> I
> remember I got these from one of the archives, they both work very
> well, but
> I
> have not taken it to data limits yet for symbol tables, etc…
>
> Bill
> Nobel
>
>
> On
> May 14, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco
> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>
> wrote:
> > Gene, I posted another reply before the one
>
> you answered that that
> told you
> what to do about MShell.
>
> > It made it to the
>
> list... because I
> received a
> copy as well.
>
> > So, in retorspect... here it is
>
> again:
>
>
> Gene,
>
> > MShell..
>
> The version you have is the one you told me you had
> problems
> with when
>
> > I first
>
> released it. And yes, there was a problem. It was
> fixed long
> ago as well
>
> > as
>
> MANY bugs and is now working pretty well, except it
> WILL NOT do
> OS9 to Linux,
>
> or Linux to OS9 file transfers. Nor will it do this
> on a Mac
> (windows works
>
> perfectly). All other functions either work, or are
> disabled in
> the menus
> until
>
> > finished.
> >
> > You can get the latest version by
>
> just running
> MShell and
> using the
>
> > updater (i think the updater worked in that
>
> version), but
> ONLY if
> you have DW4
>
> > going and your Linux host in currently on
>
> the internet.
> To do
> this is
>
> > simple:
> > Run Mshell
> > hit 'u' (or click Utils)
>
> hit 'u' again,
> (or
> click Update
>
> > mshell)
> > follow the prompts.
> > Once the
>
> download is done,
> quit
> MShell and restart
>
> > it.
> > Done.
> > There was one release
>
> that the updater
> was
> broken, and if you have
>
> > that version or if you do not
>
> have DW4 or
> internet
> access on the DW4 server,
>
> > then you can go
>
> here:
>
>
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/mshell---the-ultimate-os-9-
>gui
>
> > The download link is right under the screenshot
> >
> > The ability
>
> to
> transfer
> files
>
> > from a Linux server to OS9 DOES NOT WORK. There is a
>
> problem
> with the
> DW4 dir
>
> > cmd under Linux and Mac, but works perfectly on
>
> Windows. This
> does NOT
> affect
>
> > the updater or OS9 to OS9 copies or OS9 to RSDOS
>
> copies. Only
> when
> copying from
>
> > the server's HD. In this I mean raw files from
>
> the HD, not
> from
> dsk or vhd
>
> > images. Copying from images works perfectly.
>
> There is
> a
> workaround for this and
>
> > I may put it in the next update, but
>
> that's
> pending
> for now.
>
> > Always check for updates before using MShell as
>
> I
> update
> frequently.
>
> > Bill Pierce
> > "Charlie stole the handle,
>
> and
> the
> train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson -
> Jethro
> Tull
>
> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2
>
> &
> 3
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Gene Heskett
> <gheskett at wdtv.com>
>
> > To:
>
> coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>
> > Sent:
>
> Thu, May 14, 2015
> 10:08 pm
>
> > Subject: Re:
>
> [Coco] MShell
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> > On Thursday 14
>
> May 2015 21:47:29
> Bill Pierce via Coco
>
> wrote:
> >> Gene, DO NOT USE
> >
> > THAT VERSION
>
> OF MSHELL
>
> >> Read
>
> the other email!
>
> > What other email?
> >
> > Cheers, Gene
>
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