[Coco] MShell

Thu May 14 23:53:24 EDT 2015

In going through my archives, I only find 2 versions of rma.
One is the original microware version, the other is the 6309 version, both of which produce the 2 extra zeros at the end of a ROF.
I then checked c.asm from the MW C compiler disk and it builds ROFs without the 2 extra zeros.

So, apparently, rma will not build proper C libraies as it (for some reason) adds 2 extra zeros to the end of an ROF.

C Libraries will have to be built with c.asm until rma can be fixed.

Gene.. do you have the sources for RMA?

Bill Pierce
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From: Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
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Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] MShell

I just checked, and rma is NOT built by the repo, so the 2 I have are from RTSI.
I thought for sure rma was in the repo... That needs to be addresse. Just as the
whole "cc.dsk" needs to be addressed. Many things are missing there

Bill
Pierce
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To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Cc: Bill Pierce
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Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco]
MShell

Bill, as I've told Gene, there is no problem when compiling C sources
or even
assembling RMA source files. All version I've tried work fine.

It's
ONLY when I
try to compile/assemble a C library. The C libraries are left as
ROFs (RELS as
sometimes called) and then merged into one file with standard
merge cmd. No
linker is used. When the library is called by a C or RMA project,
they are then
Linked into the program module(s).

My problem, when these ROFs
are in their raw
form, any program designed to work with ROFs, for
example:
rdump and CK's "lib"
(like sep but for but for separating clibs back
into ROFs) will tell me they are
not ROFs. When these files are merged into a
library and used in a compile,
RLink says they are not ROFs. This does not
happen with the other libraries I
have downloaded, ONLY the ones I'm
building.

In examining the ROFs against
other ROFs built from the exact same
code (Carl Kreider's clib91), they all have
two extra zeros at the end of each
file. The rest of the file matches the
original perfectly. I can't seem to
figure out where the two extra zeros are
being generated. Since in those sources
(clib91), some sources are in C and some
are in rma asm, and all show the two
extra bytes, the only common denominator is
rma since they do not go through the
C compiler or c.prep.

I'm going to try the
original Microware rma tonight and
see if that may fix it. If it does, then that
means the rma being built by the
repo has a bug.

Bill Pierce
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won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian
Anderson - Jethro Tull

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Nobel
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for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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Sent: Thu, May 14, 2015
11:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco]
MShell

Hi Gene & Bill,  I have been watching your
guys' posts and want to
throw a tid
bit of what I have for RMA.  I have 2
versions of rma that don’t
match you guys
for crc or size.  Here is
what
I
got:

filename	size		crc
rma		$4EAF	$F830D9
rma.6309	$5C27	$E86F73

As
far as
I
remember I got these from one of the archives, they both work very
well, but
I
have not taken it to data limits yet for symbol tables, etc…

Bill
Nobel

>
On
May 14, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco
<coco at maltedmedia.com>
wrote:
>

> Gene, I posted another reply before the one
you answered that that
told you
what to do about MShell.
> 
> It made it to the
list... because I
received a
copy as well.
> 
> So, in retorspect... here it is
again:
> 
>
Gene,
> MShell..
The version you have is the one you told me you had
problems
with when
> I first
released it. And yes, there was a problem. It was
fixed long
ago as well
> as
MANY bugs and is now working pretty well, except it
WILL NOT do
OS9 to Linux,
>
or Linux to OS9 file transfers. Nor will it do this
on a Mac
(windows works
>
perfectly). All other functions either work, or are
disabled in
the menus
until
> finished.
> 
> You can get the latest version by
just running
MShell and
using the
> updater (i think the updater worked in that
version), but
ONLY if
you have DW4
> going and your Linux host in currently on
the internet.
To do
this is
> simple:
> Run Mshell
> hit 'u' (or click Utils)
>
hit 'u' again,
(or
click Update
> mshell)
> follow the prompts.
> Once the
download is done,
quit
MShell and restart
> it.
> Done.
> There was one release
that the updater
was
broken, and if you have
> that version or if you do not
have DW4 or
internet
access on the DW4 server,
> then you can go
>
here:
>

>
https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/mshell---the-ultimate-os-9-gui
>

>

>

> The download link is right under the screenshot
> 
> The ability
to
transfer
files
> from a Linux server to OS9 DOES NOT WORK. There is a
problem
with the
DW4 dir
> cmd under Linux and Mac, but works perfectly on
Windows. This
does NOT
affect
> the updater or OS9 to OS9 copies or OS9 to RSDOS
copies. Only
when
copying from
> the server's HD. In this I mean raw files from
the HD, not
from
dsk or vhd
> images. Copying from images works perfectly.
>
There is
a
workaround for this and
> I may put it in the next update, but
that's
pending
for now.
> 
> Always check for updates before using MShell as
I
update
frequently.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Pierce
> "Charlie stole the handle,
and
the
train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson -
Jethro
Tull
>

> 
> 
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> 
> 
>

> 
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Gene Heskett
<gheskett at wdtv.com>
> To:
coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent:
Thu, May 14, 2015
10:08 pm
> Subject: Re:
[Coco] MShell
> 
> 
> On Thursday 14
May 2015 21:47:29
Bill Pierce via Coco
wrote:
>> Gene, DO NOT USE
> THAT VERSION
OF MSHELL
>> Read
the other email!
>

> What other email?
> 
> Cheers, Gene
>
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