[Coco] OS-9 Library generation

Wed May 13 23:13:08 EDT 2015

On Wednesday 13 May 2015 22:35:11 Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> Gene, I'm in no hurry. What I have works until I have better :-)
> BTW, I sent another private email to see if it gets stuck again. The
> only thing that changed on this end (as far as me) was that I switched
> to Firefox browser and AOL hates Firefox. They sponser their own
> version of Internet Explorer, and if you don't use it, it gives your
> browser hell. I didn't ever use it :-) I sent the first email you
> posted with firefox. I sent the new one with IE like I always have
> before.
>
It's not you Bill, its AOL.  They, like yahoo, are now using a "dkim" 
setup that is broken in the opinion of many who have read all the RFC's 
about it.  And any server not supporting their broken version, is 
sumarily rejected at the oleh or helo stage.  The qmail server at wdtv 
isn't ever going to support it as it is now going on 18 years old.

Sendmail/postfix might be able to be co-erced into doing it but it is 
believed at this time that both yahoo and aol have written their own 
servers.  This is, AIUI, not the first time their non-RFC compliant code 
has broke 10% or  more of the internet.

I am not too worried about it, history has pretty well proved that when 
they look at the bottom line and the subscribers that have left in the 
last quarter, they might fix it.  Or they may pull an M$ and declare 
that its the standard.

That is the nice thing about standards, there are so many of them...
>
> Bill Pierce
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 13, 2015 10:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] OS-9 Library generation
>
> On Wednesday 13 May 2015 11:56:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 May 2015
>
> 10:51:03 Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> > > Gene, In the c.prep sources, the line
>
> length var is in the defs
>
> > > right near the top of the main. I noticed last
>
> night as I was
>
> > > reading the changes in the docs (yours) that you had
>
> increased the
>
> > > "defines buffer". That may be the cause of the error I'm
>
> seeing
>
> > > after I fix the line length (needs more). Also, none of my code is
> >
> > ansi compliant and I noticed c.prep19b is geared more towards ansi
> >
> > > as it
>
> mentions that quite a bit in the docs. My code's just plain
>
> > > old K&R X MW C.
>
> Would that make a difference?
>
> > I wouldn't think it would matter if you are
>
> using ansifront-13, its
>
> > got that pretty well covered.
>
> Time and honeydoo's
> seems to have gotten away from me tonight.  But they
> are promising that we may
> lose any glass rain gauges we leave out
> tonight, and temps in the low 50's
> tomorrow, and that will keep me
> inside.  Good chance then.
>
> > > Bill Pierce
>
> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way
>
> > > to slow
>
> down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>
> > > My Music from the
>
> Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
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> CocoPedia
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gene Heskett
>
> <gheskett at wdtv.com>
>
> > > To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > > Sent: Wed, May 13,
>
> 2015 10:35 am
>
> > > Subject: Re: [Coco] OS-9 Library generation
> > >
> > >
> > > So now
>
> I am wondering what
>
> > > he did do.  I *think* I have a copy of his
> > > version
>
> on my web page, but have not
>
> > > actually looked at the sources.
> > >
> > >
> > > For
>
> one thing, this is
>
> > > where the "scope" of a variable is controlled.
> > > The
>
> correct use of that means
>
> > > the you can have a var named "maxi" used
> > > at
>
> various places in the code that
>
> > > reference their own local copy of
> > > that
>
> var, but not the same named var in some
>
> > > other section of the code.
> > > So
>
> I'll have to brush up on that in the red C K&R
>
> > > book before I make any
>
> huge changes.
>
> > > I also have a cp22.lzh on my page, but I
> > > wasn't sure
>
> if I was doing it
>
> > > right, so I haven't promoted it as being correct.
> > > I
>
> recall using it
>
> > > once or twice, but it has not been thru the wringer of
>
> building
>
> > > something like rzsz-3.3.6 again that I can recall. I didn't
>
> collect
>
> > > that
> > > and pack it til 2010, at which time my memory was at leat
>
> 16 years
>
> > > rusty.
> > > I put it up to serve as raw material for whoever might
>
> want to
>
> > > take it for a
> > > walk and who knew enough about compilers to fix
>
> any of my
>
> > > goofups.
> > >
> > > In the
> > > meantime, just to define whats what,
>
> there are 3 c.prep19's on my
>
> > > site.  The
> > > unadorned one I know is mine,
>
> and IIRC the a/b versions are
>
> > > Willards.  Give the
> > > plain c.prep19.lzh
>
> version a shot at it and see if
>
> > > you still get the same
> > > problems with
>
> line lengths.  That way I might be
>
> > > able to figure where to
> > > start.
> >
> > Do you have a copy of cntx5?  Its a rather elementary syntax
> >
> > > checker,
> > >
> > >
> > > making sure you closed all the (, [, ", ', etc pairs needed.
> > >
> > > That
>
> also could,
>
> > > in todays environment, stand to be improved even more I
> > > am
>
> sure, but it has
>
> > > sure caught a boatload of typu's for me in the past.
> > > I
>
> wrote that originally on
>
> > > the coco, then ported it and made quite a few
>
> extensions on the amiga, where I
>
> > > was using SAS/C, then backported it to
>
> the coco again as version 5.
>
> > > > You're welcome to take
> > >
> > > a look at
>
> my sources any time (I could use the
>
> > > > advice), but be prepared for
> > >
> > > "The Spaghettiville Horror" LMAO.
> > >
> > > > Actually, it's not THAT bad,
>
> but it gets the
>
> > > job done.
> > >
> > > I have a Dr's appointment early this
>
> afternoon, but I'll see if I
>
> > > can
> > >
> > > locate my srcs again & see if I can
>
> make the command line buffer
>
> > > bigger.
> > >
> > > Sometime this evening if I can
>
> get this rusty old brain back into
>
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > --
> >
> > "There are four boxes to be used
> >
> > > in defense of liberty:
> > >  soap, ballot,
>
> jury, and ammo. Please use in that
>
> > > order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
>
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> > >
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> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
>
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury,
>
> and ammo. Please use in that order."
>
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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>
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four
> boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please
> use in that order."
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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