[Coco] Minted buffer size

Sun Mar 8 01:53:19 EST 2015

i'll check this out, there must be a bug then.

A text editor is not a flat buffer but a double linked list of strings. So for each line we have several bytes overhead. If the text is made of many small lines you can have as much data as byte controls.

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday 08 March 2015 00:22:54 Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) wrote:
>> on minted when a memory allocation fails it tries first to delete your
>> oldest undo item. When all undos are gone, then it will show the
>> memory full message.
> 
> And hitting the break key clears it, for perhaps 500 milliseconds and its 
> instantly back, telling you to do it (hit the break key) again. ctl+s or 
> ctl+e does nothing because the OOM message cannot be cleared long enough 
> to regain control.
> 
>> The memory could be just fragmented.
> 
> That's my line of thought too, Luis.
> 
>> The thing to do when memory is 
>> full is to save the file. Reloading it again could give you some
>> memory extra but it will report the error soon again.
> 
> Even when the file is only 27k?  I did not add 30k worth of comments.  5k 
> worth maybe.
> 
> The original file is still there, so all I am out is about an hours work. 
> I will try to split it up into smaller pieces tomorrow.
> 
>> Luis Felipe Antoniosi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco
>> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Stephen, I have never said I used an editor with no line limit,
>>> though I was looking for one at one time. I have always (since about
>>> 89 or 90?) used "Ed 3.0" by Mike Sweet (author of CGFX7 C library)
>>> which has about the same buffer size as TSEdit (or vim/vi). The
>>> reason I like Ed is it's a menu driven full screen editor and not
>>> line oriented. Ed also supports tabs, cut/copy/paste, and mouse.
>>> It's also stable (as most of Mike's stuff was). Not a bunch of
>>> commands to remember, though control keys are available for most
>>> functions. And No... it is not an OSk editor. It was written on a
>>> Coco, for the Coco in OS9 L2 C code.
>>> 
>>> For a "no line limit" editor in OS9, you would have to go with
>>> "DynaStar" (Frank Hogg?) or "ScreenStar" (Spectra Systems?), both of
>>> which load their buffer dynamically from disk and have no file size
>>> limit. Both are similar to "WordStar" and have high learning curves.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bill Pierce
>>> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Stephen H. Fischer <SFischer1 at Mindspring.com>
>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, Mar 7, 2015 11:23 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Minted buffer size
>>> 
>>> I used it at lot when I
>>> was using a real CoCo and though I had made it bullet proof, but as
>>> many times
>>> you said you fired a gun one Saturday, perhaps not.
>>> 
>>> More details would be
>>> interesting but then perhaps not as it has been so many years since
>>> I looked at
>>> the code.
>>> 
>>> The version I started with was from one of the OS-9 user disks and
>>> was a real horror and I lost editing sessions many times until it
>>> was somewhat
>>> stable.
>>> 
>>> We users tend to use programs in ways the author never did so I
>>> might have missed something.
>>> 
>>> I gave it to a local CoCo Software collector (Thief) who
>>> gave it to a few friends but I never got any feedback or help with
>>> the documentation that was promised.
>>> 
>>> All I can say is what a Doctor said when the
>>> patent said it hurt when he raised his arm over his head. "Don't do
>>> that."
>>> 
>>> Series File Output (ALT CTRL O)  is what I would use to save the
>>> current editing session to a file ever so often, there is no room
>>> for a timed version
>>> like my word processor does.
>>> -------------------------------------
>>> Bill Pierce
>>> once said he was using  an editor with no line limit but thinking
>>> about that I
>>> do wonder if he was actually using a OSK version.
>>> 
>>> Your comment about "editors
>>> that can handle 100 megabyte files." Is how I handle the problem.
>>> 
>>> I have the
>>> "C" source code from Dr. Dobbs for "RED" which could handle files
>>> bigger than
>>> memory.
>>> 
>>> We lost a lot of talent when OSK came out and the people who could
>>> have fixed many of the things troubling us just left just like I did
>>> when Borland
>>> Turbo 'C" showed that there was a better way.
>>> 
>>> SHF
>>> 
>>> 
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