[Coco] sourceforge insurance

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 16 June 2015 13:36:31 Matthew Stock wrote:
> Gene,
>
> For what it's worth, github doesn't charge a fee unless you want to
> make a private repo.

Well, ours is far from private, but does tend to have that biblical 
bushel over the front door light.  There is not that many of us, and 
even fewer with commit rights, mine seemed to have went away with the 
transition to hg.

> So I suspect that's a viable option if folks 
> choose to migrate to git.  I like it, but I'm also not an active dev
> on the project(s) in question.  I have used git/github fairly
> extensively however, and so I can lend a hand in any transition if
> that's desired.
>
> Matt
>
That might well be useful help. I think its above "my pay grade" :)

We'll see what TPTB want to do first.  And many thanks for the offer, 
Matthew.

> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> 
wrote:
> > Greeting, Tormod, Boisy, Aaron
> >
> > Its apparent the new management at sourceforge is determined to
> > monetize whats there by any means.
> >
> > Major projects have forked & left, starting with GIMP.
> >
> > I think its about time we took some action to preserve our
> > repository in case it dissappears like several other have recently.
> >
> > To that end, I am thinking of doing a clone on a daily basis,
> > running 30 days deep since I have the drive space here.  IOW, what
> > I'd have here will be snapshots of the last 30 days, so we can
> > backup a week or more if we have to restore it someplace else.  The
> > clone is a complete copy from what I understand, each of which is
> > capable of standalone operation.
> >
> > Github charges a monthly fee for using their services, the magnitude
> > of which I don't know. But we all know someone has to pay the
> > electric bill, buy the bandwidth and service the machines. 
> > Basically its TANSTAAFL folks and we may as well get used to it.
> >
> > But TBT, that probably ought to be done by someone both younger than
> > I, and more familiar with the inner workings of hg.  Sure, my
> > machine is sitting here doing not a lot more than handling my email
> > with a minimum of interaction from me.  And I am nowhere near the
> > bandwidth usage that would trigger an extra charge for my current
> > provision from Shentel.
> >
> > But what happens when I fall over?  My current physical health says
> > I do NOT have another decade since I am 80 and have been a DM-II for
> > 30+ years now.  And there is absolutely no one who could walk in the
> > door and take over for me when I am finished.
> >
> > So, do we have another volunteer to host the repo, do we pass that
> > hat annually?
> >
> > Sourceforge is going out unless they turn the direction around to be
> > more inline with FOSS, which they are running away from as fast as
> > they can.
> >
> > We need an insurance policy copy of the repo someplace where a
> > simple edit of our updating scripts can move it transparently.
> >
> > What say the rest of you?  How do we handle a sourceforge lockout? 
> > That is what they are doing, then it shows up again as a click the
> > link and pay download.  Bundled with all sorts of addware and viri. 
> > We don't need that, and should be prepared for that day.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>