[Coco] Cross Post from the Facebook Page about the RGB2VGA Board
Steve Batson
steve at batsonphotography.com
Fri Jul 10 11:36:19 EDT 2015
No problem, Roger deserves the credit all this work. I just duplicated
what he did and putting info here hoping it's helpful.
I had no stock of resistors and trying to find just a few either wasn't
economical or easy. Needless to say, I've got a pretty good stock now!
:D
> Thank you very much Steve. I should be able to
test it out today. I will
> report back either way. I might put my DigiKey order in anyway. You
can
> never have too many resistors :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Steve Batson
> <steve at batsonphotography.com>
> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> No, the resistor from R7 to Pos 8 on the GPIO1 connector is what
was
>> referred to as Rx, that resistor should be 1.8K. The drawing on
Luis'
>> site
>> shows a jumper wire to fix a ground issue. If that jumper is in
place
>> after
>> all the resistors in place, you will most likely have Jitter.
There
>> should
>> be no Jumper wires installed. The jumper Luis refers to is
between R21
>> and
>> R18. I'd only install that if Jitter is present with all the
resistor
>> changes. If necessary, try it both ways, but on Roger and my
board it
>> wasn't necessary. All of these changes were Roger's findings. I
only
>> duplicated his setup and it's awesome!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 10:22 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> > I will be testing it tomorrow. Thank you for the new
values.
>> Hopefully
>> > everything will work as intended. You refer to the
additional wires
>> not
>> > being needed. Is this the resistor from R7 to Position 8 on
GPIO1 and
>> the
>> > wire between R18 and R21?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Steve Batson <
>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> John,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, this is Luis' RGB2VGA board used with the DENano
FPGA.
>> >>
>> >> Since you have just finished it, I'd test it out first
to see if you
>> see
>> >> any jitter or other problems. However Roger did a lot
of
>> investigation
>> and
>> >> found these values produce voltages in line with the VGA
Standard and
>> to
>> >> help the board properly sync from the CoCo output. I
don't have all
>> the
>> >> technical details, I just know it worked for Roger and
works for me.
>> >>
>> >> These are what Roger came up with and I simply
duplicated what he
>> found.
>> >> Also, the Variable resistor, he recommended a 10K Multi
Turn for
>> finer
>> >> control when tuning for the best appearance. Another
thing to know is
>> that
>> >> there are some additional wires recommended but they
were not needed
>> on
>> >> Roger's or my case and jitter did not go away until
removed.
>> >>
>> >> Top Left
>> >>
>> >> 82 Ohms - Grey-Red-Black-Gold-Brown
>> >> R22
>> >> R23
>> >> R25
>> >>
>> >> * * * Bottom Left
>> >>
>> >> 1.2K Brown-Red-Black-Brown-Brown
>> >> R18
>> >> R19
>> >> R20
>> >> R21
>> >>
>> >> * * * Top Right 10
>> >>
>> >> R9 47
>> >> R10 47
>> >>
>> >> 390 ohms
>> >> R1
>> >> R4
>> >> R7
>> >>
>> >> 820 ohms
>> >> R2
>> >> R5
>> >> R8
>> >>
>> >> 1.8K ohms
>> >> R3
>> >> R6
>> >> Rx (this is the resistor soldered to R7 and the GPIO1
Connector)
>> >>
>> >> * * * Bottom Right
>> >>
>> >> 2K Red-Black-Red-Gold
>> >> R17
>> >> R14
>> >> R12
>> >> R11
>> >>
>> >> 1K Brown-Black-black-Brown-Brown
>> >> R15
>> >> R16
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:31 PM, John B
<trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> Are you referring to Luis' RGB2VGA board? The reason
I ask is I
>> >> literally
>> >>> (15 min ago) just finished assmebling my board. I
used the
>> resistors
>> he
>> >>> outlined on his page under the
"Modifications" section.
>> >>> https://sites.google.com/site/tandycocoloco/rgb2vga
Are those the
>> >>> resistors that produced the video jitter? If so, can
you give us
>> the
>> new
>> >>> values that fixed the issue?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> John
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Steve Batson
<
>> >> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I figured I'd post the following here too. Some
discussion occurred
>> on
>> >> the
>> >>>> FB page, but a lot of discussion was done
between Roger and Myself
>> in
>> >> email
>> >>>> as Roger made several discoveries that
stabilized some very
>> annoying
>> >> jitter
>> >>>> problems with video.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> RGB2VGA Stabilized!
>> >>>> First thanks to Felipe for a very cool Solution
to bring the CoCo3
>> video
>> >>>> to Modern VGA Monitors. Originally, I missed a
few resistors that I
>> >> somehow
>> >>>> thought were optional and Felipe straightened me
out on those.
>> >>>> Then I was getting Jitter just like Roger was
experiencing. I had
>> >> several
>> >>>> email discussions with Roger as he was doing
some research and
>> >>>> experimenting based on what he found about the
VGA standards and
>> found
>> >> that
>> >>>> changing some resistor values stabilized the
output from his board.
>> I
>> >> have
>> >>>> pretty much duplicated Roger's resistor values
on my board with the
>> >>>> exception of 4 that I'm waiting to come in, but
mine is crisp and
>> >> jitter is
>> >>>> gone. I will most likely change those 4
resistors when the parts
>> come
>> in
>> >>>> unless it doesn't make sense.
>> >>>> Anyway, Finally fantastic output on my VGA
monitor. Very Cool!!!
>> >>>> Very Big thanks to Roger!!!
>> >>>>
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