[Coco] DW & VCC

[Dave G4UGM]

Bill,

 

It appears you do know what you are doing and why. However you advised folks
to turn UAC off without warning them of the consequences. I am fine with
folks turning UAC off if they really need to and know what they are doing. I
am not fine with folks turning UAC off because someone has told them it's
the only way to get something to work. Generally it is not, most here are
not running special music recording systems.

 

Not sure BTW why you would need a copy of server, unless you need the extra
RAM support. Its pretty much the same as Vista/7/8. It now comes with
Indexing enabled, firewall on, auto update enabled, and perhaps surprisingly
UAC is also enabled by default. You would have to do much the same stripping
if that's what you needed.

 

Dave

 

From: Bill Pierce [mailto:ooogalapasooo at aol.com] 
Sent: 23 January 2015 17:37
To: dave.g4ugm at gmail.com; coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Coco] DW & VCC

 

I sent this to Dave privately by mistake so I'm reposting it to the list:

Dave, I understand what UAC is supposed to do, but it doesn't do it well. It
may work on the average user's system, but my system sees very little
"average" use.

This computer is my main computer for my recording studio and to have to
screw with making sure directories and files have proper permissions can be
a big hassle and cost me money (in down time).

I can't even have window's "Indexing" on or it can ruin a recording session
by trying to index a wav file while I'm playing 20-30 wav files and
recording another 8 wavs simultaneously. Then to have windows make "temp"
copies of these 25-250 meg files all over my system is ridiculous.

In researching the pro audio recording techniques for digital computer
multitrack recording, EVERY producer/engineer/mixer/masterer advises that
all forms of UAC, indexing, and most security features be turned off (which
they do warn of the risk). All the pro audio computers sold by companies
specializing in pro audio systems (6,8,10,20 core systems in $3k - $10k
range) come configured this way. Basically, anything taking CPU time or
accessing drives while recording is shut off. When recording 8-16-24 tracks
of individual uncompressed wavs simultaneously, the computer is taxed to the
max and sometimes beyond (AMD quad core).

On my old system, I was running Win Server 2003 which was stripped to the
core. Since this system came with 64-bit Vista Home Premium and I couldn't
afford a new 64 bit Win Server installation, I stripped it down as much as
possible (Classic interface, none of the "pretty" translucent stuff, no
retail bull crap included with the install)

I even make anyone in the studio while recording to turn off their cell
phones as even the cell phone doing an "auto update", not to mention
annoying calls, can cause RF interference and make the system "buzz" no
matter how much "RF filtering" I do. There's just too much sensitive digital
gear in the room all connected to the computer, from a 40 track mixing
console to 3 racks of digital processors/effects to MIDI controlled amps
etc.

The last thing I need is to be recording the vocalist's 50th take (5-8 hours
into recording at $25/hour) in which he's finally getting that one part
right and the recording glitches due to some "security" feature accessing
the drive in the background and have to tell the vocalist that it was a bad
take and he/she must do it again... I'd lose business quick and in a hurry.
Been there, done that, didn't even get a tie-died T-shirt, instead, I got
fired.

I have run all my computers this way for 15 years and have only had 2
incidents of invasion and both were my fault.

I have other means of protection that use much less of my computer's
resources and don't interrupt my system. And besides, my router has a
firewall, my Sat modem has a firewall, and my ISP has a firewall.... No need
to insult them :-)

"Re-open doors they closed"? That's exactly what I intended to do. MS has a
tendency to close doors I need wide open.

 

Bill Pierce

"Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens

 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Dave G4UGM <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com> >
To: 'Bill Pierce' <ooogalapasooo at aol.com <mailto:ooogalapasooo at aol.com> >;
'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts' <coco at maltedmedia.com
<mailto:coco at maltedmedia.com> >
Sent: Fri, Jan 23, 2015 11:34 am
Subject: RE: [Coco] DW & VCC

"UAC is useless under those conditions."
 
Actually UAC is really designed to protect people running as Administrator
with 
a single account. If you PC is internet connected UAC will provide limited 
protection against stuff you download running as administrator and
hi-jacking 
your PC. If you can store data files outside "program files" then you won't
have 
so many issues. If all the data is in a particular folder in "Program files"

consider giving yourself permissions to the folder. You can also run things
from 
an elevated command prompt.
 
Simply turning off UAC re-opens the doors it closed.
 
Dave
G4UGM