[Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale

Chad H chadbh74 at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 7 18:27:32 EST 2015 

Hmm...I figured $7.00 for 2 PCB boards with free shipping wasn’t too bad.  Perhaps I'm mistaken on that one.  As for the lid issue that you insist is a problem when it is not I'll just let the evidence speak for itself...

http://tinyurl.com/p3sordu


However, I do have a real problem you may be able to shed some light on.  My ProTector+ will not seat in my CoCo 2 26-3127.  The CPU was already socketed but this is not the issue.  The ProTector+ is sitting on top of the IC chip immediately to the left of the CPU and will not full seat.  This results in tension that, over a short period of time, caused the ProTector+ to come unseated enough to crash the computer.  How do we fix this sir?  (See here..)

http://tinyurl.com/pc6bxn9



-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Mark Marlette
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 4:03 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale

Chad,
So all PCB thickness are the same? The lid issue DOES have to do with the PCB thickness. As if you stackall the tolerance up in a ProEngineering model(cad type program) you will see that your statement is false.
I am sure you used the standard .062 FR4. This when used with my fine pin/socket heights will not allow the lid to close. PCB is too thick, so it does matter.
I normally wouldn't have said anything as I don't mind other's projects. You just made reference to mine being pricy. So I explained my position.

Your $7 board is pricy, IMHO, as explained it is all in the labor and what devices your design will fit in using the parts you have selected. The lid will not fit on any of them, except on the Disto's/J&M which already have the
28 pin interface on them.

Being J-STD-001 certified, this is a tough assembly to put together on my end. Good luck on the sale of your boards.

Regards,
Mark Marlette
http://www.cloud9tech.com
mark at cloud9tech.com

      From: Chad H <chadbh74 at hotmail.com>
 To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts' <coco at maltedmedia.com>
 Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale
   
Obtaining one of every model FDC is neither logical, practical or necessary. Your board works with all of them because it uses the standard wiring configuration.  Mine does to!  The lid issue has nothing to do with the PCB itself.  It has to do with the pins and sockets used.  The only difference is mine extends function by giving easy access to extra address lines that can be wired up EXTERNALLY by the user to switches, jumpers, etc. as they see fit. These are entirely optional. The "Fitting with the lid shut" issue depends on what parts are used to assemble it out.

You seem to be pointing out the advantages of your board over mine like someone defending their product.  I assure you I'm not trying to compete at all with you here.  I simply needed one single board for my controller but couldn't have just "one" made so I ended up with 2 spares as I mentioned in the first e-mail.  I'm not even going to install anything on them unless they specifically ask for it.  As is, I'll let them go for $7.00 total and be done with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Mark Marlette
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:38 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale

Chad,
You will have to procure all the FDC's and test your design in them. This will drive your costs up though......

As your design will work in some of the FDC, I also supported the 3rd party controllers.
Guessing by looking at your design and doing this design several times over to get it to work in all controllers, your lid binds or won't stay together ? Mark Marlette http://www.cloud9tech.com mark at cloud9tech.com

      From: Chad H <chadbh74 at hotmail.com>
 To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts' <coco at maltedmedia.com>
 Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale
  
Yea it was a pain trying to get it to fit correctly.  I had to trim the pins way down to the surface and almost flush the board against the FD-500 surface.  What FDC controller uses a different 24-pin wiring configuration?  I thought all of the ones that were 24 pin used the same configuration.  If this is true, then the design will work for all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Mark Marlette
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:09 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale

Chad,
The reason my adapter board is a bit pricy($25) is because I used low profile machine individual sockets and pins. Each socket/pin is hand placed in a special fixture, this adapter is time consuming product to produce.
What is does give you is the ability to have the original lid on your floppy controller. There is no tolerance to allow for normal sockets and still have the lid go on.

The DOS Adapter's EPROM just touches the top and works in every FDC controller produced for the CoCo.

As the added wire fields work in you FD500 you will find that it will not work in other FDC applications.
Regards, Mark Marlette
http://www.cloud9tech.com
mark at cloud9tech.com

      From: Chad H <chadbh74 at hotmail.com>
 To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts' <coco at maltedmedia.com>
 Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2015 1:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale
  
Self correction:
  * EPROM's supported: 2764, 27128, 27256, 27512

  * Controller Pictured:  FD-500 (26-3029)

-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Chad H
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 1:44 PM
To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'
Subject: [Coco] 24Pin to 28Pin EPROM Adapter PCB for sale

With my recent acquisition and ongoing restoration attempt of a FD-500 controller, one of the things I wanted to do was get the 24-pin ROM out and put in an adapter for 28-PIN EPROMS (2764, 27128, 27256 & 25512).  I took a look around the web and at the Cloud-9 unit but honestly they were all a bit pricy for me and didn't give me easy access to the A13, A14 and A15 lines like I want because eventually I will be installing switches on the case to allow me to power down and switch ROM's quicker.

 

So. I designed my own PCB's and just tested one with the controller.  You can see pictures here .

http://tinyurl.com/m8992jh

 

The boards have header/wire access points for:  VCC, GND, A13, A14, A15 to make it easier to wire up switches.

 

The FD-502 controller pictured has a single green wire running from the A13 pin to the cartridge connector to allow the 16K rom to work properly and it has been very stable.  I will be adding switches for the A14 and A15 lines so I will be able to put 4 x 16K ROM's on a 27512 and have pretty much all my standard ROMs in one place, which I did on a EPROM adapter but not on floppy controller yet.

 

Anyways, I only really needed one of the PCB's so I have 2 extra if anyone is interested.


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