[Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images

Mon Oct 27 22:04:46 EDT 2014

Hi Bob!
I did an ident and it was quite revealing.  Do you have full copies of this
version along with source code?  I'd like to see all of it if possible.  I
saw an ACIA module and on the surface it looks like the console boot device
was an RS-232 port and it booted off H0.  I'd like to see that setup.  Does
any of that development still exist?  Do you know why the file I put in
dropbox is named OS9L3.os9 and not OS9l2.os9?

Kip Koon
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-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bob Devries
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:54 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images

Hi Kip,

at one time, Don Berrie and I put together a version of CC3Go which was
programmed to read a config.sys style file and use that for the startup
shell. If you find a reference to /dd/sys/config.os9 in that cc3go, then
that's it.

As to it being L3 or not, you would need to do an IDENT of the OS9Boot file.
That will reveal much.

Regards, Bob Devries
Dalby, QLD, Australia

On 28/10/2014 11:39 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
> Hi Guys!
> This is what cc3go module has as its internal text.
> Copyright Bob Devries & Don Berrie
> OS-9 LEVEL TWO VR. 02.00.01 COPYRIGHT 1986 MICROWARE SYSTEMS 
> CORPORATION ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Bill, you are right.  This is really 
> OS-9 L2 v2.0.1! Interesting they would rename it L3.  Maybe this is an 
> interim L3 development version and they just did not update cc3go yet.  
> That's my speculation of course.
> Running "ded cc3go" has also shown me that it is programmed to boot H0.
> That's probably the reason why it is not booting.
> Now to read the rest of this thread and see what you guys are up too.  
> :)
>
> Kip Koon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Kip Koon
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:52 PM
> To: 'Bill Pierce'; 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>
> Hi Guys!
> Sorry for being offline.  I've been a bit under the weather.  Here is 
> a link to the OS-9 L3 disk image I downloaded from Alan Dekok's web site.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/izktotl4934qut9/OS9L3.os9?dl=0
> Could you tell me what else would be needed to run this or to update 
> the
> NitrOS-9 Repo?
>
> Kip Koon
> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
> Pierce via Coco
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:01 PM
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>
>
>
> Tormod, I sent you a private email concerning Nitros9 level 3 
> yesterday. I think it got screwed in the process so I'll send it again.
> And yes, there was a working Level 3 at one point, but Alan took it 
> with him when he left us. Unless Kip had a copy from Alan's old 
> website, I don't see how he could've run it. It was only available for
Nitros9 L2 v1.2.2.
> The level 3 that Alan was working on was based on code from Nitros9 L2 
> v1.22 (yes, that old), which was still being sold by Northern Exposure 
> at the time. They at one point announced they "may" provide the Level 
> 3 upgrade if enough people showed interest. I don't think they ever
actually released it.
> Alan did have it available on his website later.
>   
>   
> The Level 3 code in the repo is missing 4 important files and WILL NOT 
> run without them.
> These files are "IOMan.L3", "OS9P1.L3" (now named Krn), "OS9p2.L3" 
> (now named KrnP2), and "Clock.L3" (now split into 2 modules).
> These files have gone through many changes since Nitros9 l2 v1.22 and 
> the original L3 files will have to be disassembled and the newer 
> modules reworked to do what these modules intended for L3.
> Again... Level 3 WILL NOT WORK without these modules, and I'm NOT 
> referring to the current build of these modules as Alan did special 
> versions of each one. They were not the same modules as in Nitros9 l2
v1.2.2.
>   
>   
> I think Kip may have been running a release of Nitros9 L2 v3.0.0 as 
> I've seen it in several archives labeled as "L3" which is incorrect. 
> It's just L2 v3.0.0,
>   
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tormod Volden <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 4:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
>> Hi Tormod!
>>
>> Are there any plans for reviving the NitrOS-9 Level-3 Code?
> Hi Kip!
>
> I believe Gene has such plans :)
>
> I don't know of anyone else. Boisy put this stuff in the repo some 
> years ago, but I think the original level3 work from Alan DeKok is decades
old.
>
> Other than that the only plans that I know anyone has or had for
> NitrOS-9 is here: http://sourceforge.net/p/nitros9/feature-requests/
>
> Personally I would like to see it ported to more systems. There is a 
> crowd of 6809 lovers outside the CoCo/Dragon scene, which I am sure 
> you have seen for instance on the N8VEM list. Getting them involved 
> and using NitrOS-9 as a unifying base would be great. NitrOS-9 offers 
> the a well defined API to write programs that can run on a CoCo or a
homebrew 6809 system.
>
> Generally I think we need more new software running on NitrOS-9, more 
> than we need new features in NitrOS-9. But I am not so much into the 
> use of
> NitrOS-9 so what do I know. Of course a lot of people think the 
> operating system itself is more interesting to develop than programs 
> for it. And I could fit in there, I guess :)
>
>> How do I put in my own changes into my local copy of the NitrOS-9 
>> Repository without the Build process removing said changes every time 
>> I try to assemble the source code and make the disks?  I have some 
>> ideas I want to play with including cleaning up some scripts, adding 
>> other scripts that I think are needed or at least would be 
>> interesting and correcting at least one error in a module.
> You can make your own local branch. See "hg help branch" for the short 
> story, but read the mercurial documentation and tutorials for better 
> explanations. I posted some of these here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.tandy.coco/75439
>
>> Another reason why I'm asking is I have a friend named Bas De Jong 
>> who is running a homebrew 68020 VME system he made using wirewrap 
>> methods that runs
>> OS-9 68K 2.3 and he wants to add Windowing capabilities to His OS-9 
>> Operating system.
>>
>> He asked me some questions about the windowing system in NitrOS-9 and 
>> I told him as far as I know the default distro disks have no built-in 
>> GUI.  Then I remembered the Multivue disks.  I tried the Multivue 
>> 6309 DW and Multivue
>> 6809 DW disks in Drivewire with VCC 1.43Beta and neither of them 
>> booted.  I also tried to boot the Multivue 6309 and Multivue 6809 
>> disks in VCC Drive 0 with the Drive off Basic command and neither of 
>> these booted.  If I remember correctly,  Multivue is the GUI 
>> application, but I cannot check it out to get copies of the screen 
>> for
> Bas.
>> Are the Multivue disks broken or did I make a mistake in my 
>> configuration in Drivewire and/or VCC?
> I don't know. Maybe Bill Pierce knows, since he's the most heavy user 
> of
> NitrOS-9 GUI systems that I know of.
>
>> I tested a version of OS-9 Level 3 once quite a while back and it 
>> seemed to work fine, but I didn't have a Coco mouse then so I did not 
>> pursue it any further.  Now that I have VCC 1.43beta I'm going to 
>> pull it out again and see if it still boots.  Any help would be most 
>> appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Take care my friends.
> So there was a OS-9 Level 3? Interesting. Maybe someone can pitch in 
> with some history and background. I have considered it more like 
> vaporware, from reading the NitrOS-9 FAQ.
>
> Cheers,
> Tormod
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