[Coco] internet access

Bill Nobel b_nobel at hotmail.com
Sun May 25 21:25:15 EDT 2014


Going good so far,  I had to slightly modify TCPListenPort for FTP, but still in progress.  I am basing my code off of Telnet.as and Net.as from the current 3.3.0 repository.  As FTP command is Telnet just getting the data port connection protocol stabilized.


  The netlib you are talking about is this the same as ALIB and Net.as? if so thats exactly what I am using.

Bill Nobel

On May 25, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com> wrote:

> That sounds like a great project.  Please be sure to use the netlib calls,
> or if netlib doesn't have something you need let's collaborate to add it.
> In other words don't send "tcp connect" etc directly from your code.  That
> interface is being changed but netlib will insulate programs from the
> changes.
> On May 25, 2014 7:21 PM, "Bill Nobel" <b_nobel at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh I do agree Aaron, HTML would be close to impossible, but client server
>> approach may be different.  I am still learning your DriveWire protocol,
>> But from what I see it could be possible.  I have my ftp client talking
>> with server, still working on the data port protocol.
>> 
>> Bill Nobel
>> 
>> On May 25, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm familiar with the networking capabilities in drivewire. I wrote them
>> :)
>>> 
>>> The problem with web browsing (and since HTML email has become so
>>> prevalent, also email) is that rendering HTML content in 64k is
>>> impractical.    Even text based browsers like links/lynx/etc require
>>> megabytes of ram to operate.
>>> 
>>> There are some simple tools to strip text from html that can sort of work
>>> in a pinch, I used to include one of them on the drivewire extras disk.
>> Not
>>> sure if its still there.  However these are not rendering the content at
>>> all, just trying to dump readable portions of the HTML.  With modern web
>>> content its more and more difficult to get anything useful using this
>>> technique.
>>> 
>>> Could a browser be done? Sure, for some very limited definition of
>>> browser.  However, using your coco to surf or read (html) email isn't
>>> something I see being practical.  It would be quite difficult to actually
>>> communicate using such a tool.
>>> On May 25, 2014 6:32 PM, "Bill Nobel" <b_nobel at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That may change soon, as I am currently doing a full FTP client through
>>>> DriveWire and Bill Pierce I think, is doing a lot more with Mshell.  I
>>>> don’t see why we can’t do Email as well.  Protocol isn’t that difficult
>>>> through DriveWire, so possibilities are endless now.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill Nobel
>>>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Joel Ewy <jcewy at swbell.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/25/2014 04:15 PM, keithclark1966 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Is there any way for my coco to access the internet to check email and
>>>> do
>>>>>> some text based surfing using drivewire 4?  I don't seem to be able to
>>>> find
>>>>>> any instructions for the advanced features.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point the only way to do stuff like that realistically is to
>> run
>>>> a terminal emulator on the CoCo and a text-based email or web client on
>> the
>>>> PC.  Programs that come to mind are [e]l[iy]n[ksx], elm, pine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JCE
>>>>> 
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