[Coco] l2update and bbs dsk images in nitros9 source tree
Bill Pierce
ooogalapasooo at aol.com
Sun Feb 9 22:33:29 EST 2014
@ Curtis (and anyone else who has knowledge of this),
After you stated that some of the "Upgrade" features HAD been included into the Nitros9 repo, I started taking a look around.
In looking through the latest "defs" files, I'm finding quite a few of the system calls and gets/setstat parms that are mentioned in the docs and notes in the upgrade. A lot of these "new" features are the kind of things that poeple often "wish" OS9 had... And they were already there!
The thing that bothers me, I've stated it before and I'll state it again and again....
Where's the documentation?
There's things in the additions that would make handling windows, mouse, get/put buffers, graphics, and much more... much easier. Why was all this stuff added then no documentation created on how to use it or even notes that it was there? The only indication of the existence of these calls is the sparse comments beside the calls in the defs files.
Pretty soon, no one will be around that knows what these feature are and how they work.
For instance, were the named pipes ever implemented?
Just food for thought :-)
Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: L. Curtis Boyle <curtisboyle at sasktel.net>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] l2update and bbs dsk images in nitros9 source tree
>From what I recall, it is in there (and is part of WindInt, for the most part).
I think the bouncing ball demo let you resize the window on the fly. Boisy, I
know Kevin Darling had, at one time, mentioned that he was probably the only one
out of the Level 2 upgrade project that had all of the source; have you tried
seeing if he would be willing to release it now (I believe the repository has
just disassemblies like the ones Bill and I worked on, when we "accidentally"
got some of the level II upgrade from Frank Hogg when we were working on the 2nd
version of the TC-9 drivers).
L. Curtis Boyle
curtisboyle at sasktel.net
On Feb 9, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Boisy,
> I've booted the "Br Jeremy" boot disk and played around with it.
> I really like the look of everything. From the notes I read, there were a lot
of things being worked on.
> Do you know if the :resizable/movable" window driver is on those disks
anywhere? Or was that still in planning and not make it to the disks?
>
>
> Bill Pierce
> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>
>
> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
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> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boisy Pitre <boisy at tee-boy.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 7:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] l2update and bbs dsk images in nitros9 source tree
>
>
> It has always been my intention to fold some of the features of the L2 Upgrade
> into NitrOS-9. That’s mostly why those disk images exist in the repo.
>
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tormod,
>> The "Upgrade disks" are most likely there for safekeeping. They are
"possibly"
> the only disks ever preserved of the work being done in the 90s by the
"Upgrade
> Team" before Tandy dropped the Coco and Microware then desolved the team.
There
> are a few features on those disks yet to be implemented in Nitros9 and some
that
> were. There are no sources, only the demo disks and many notes in text files
by
> members of the team, mostly Kevin Darling.
>>
>> Yes, those disks exist on almost every archive on the net, but as in the
past,
> archives come and go.
>>
>>
>> Bill Pierce
>> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>>
>>
>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tormod Volden <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 6:10 pm
>> Subject: [Coco] l2update and bbs dsk images in nitros9 source tree
>>
>>
>> I am cleaning out my TODO list for NitrOS-9 3.3.0 and there are a few
>> items left. One of them is the presence of disk images under
>> 3rdparty/packages/l2upgrade/ . I believe these are upgrade disks for
>> OS-9. So why are they in the NitrOS-9 source repo? I suppose they are
>> safely archived somewhere else for anyone needing them.
>>
>> Also, under 3rdparty/packages/os9l2bbs/ there is an old os9l2bbs.dsk
>> image. The build creates its own under
>> 3rdparty/packages/os9l2bbs/6809l2/ Is the prebuilt image something
>> checked in by mistake, or does it have something that the created
>> image does not have?
>>
>> I would be happy to get these blobs out of the source tree.
>>
>> Tormod
>>
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