[Coco] Really not understanding how to use DW

[Bill Pierce]

In my previous message, I said the instructions on the Nitros9 wiki for building Nitros9 with mingw in Windows worked, well.... Now they've (mingw) have messed that up.

I had messed up something in MinGW yesterday that was screwing with my paths and couldn't fix it. So this morning I deleted MinGW and Mercurial to do a fresh download and install.

When you click the link, you get the option to download the latest version and some subdirectories.
If you click the "latest version" the "new" installer GUI is invoked and the default install does not include the basic packages anymore. You must select them from the catalog. Since I don't know that much about mingw and what packages are needed, the instructions in the Nos9 wiki no longer apply. This installation will not even install a "MinGW Shell" icon for you to run it. It just installs the "MinGW Install" icon which takes you right back to the catalog. :-(
If I knew the proper packages to select, it would probably work ok, but.... 

BUT... if you click the:
mingw-get-inst-20120426
directory on the initial linked page instead, it takes you to another page where you can download the:
mingw-get-inst-20120426.exe
and the Nos9 wiki instructions work again. Just do not click the "latest version" link.

I guess now a list of "packages" is needed in the wiki or there will be another round of "I can't ..." and "How do you..." ;-(


And just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water... 


Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:43 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] Really not understanding how to use DW



Aaron, the Download page at the repo site is pretty stable (right now) thanks to 
Tormod. Everything I've checked is booting properly, games run, programs load. 
There's only a couple of issues with something not building but the downloads 
are good.
This new batch has quite a few small bug fixes such so it is desirable to change 
over.
Since the old batch was buggy, I was using a 3.2.9 build that I found somewhere 
that was pre-lwtools and actually worked. It was dated 2008.
We really need people with the different hadrware to check the builds for their 
machines to see if it works properly.
I can verify the Coco 1 2 & 3, L1& L2, DW3, Floppy & Becker all boot properly 
and the files on the disks run fine. This is the best build I've seen in 3 
years.
Admittedly, the descriptions on the download page need a good looking at and 
maybe a few corrections.

In running the "Build Nitros9 using mingw", "mercurial", "toolshed", "lwtools", 
"nitros9" instructions on the wiki all go smoothly now thanks to you and Tormod 
(sometimes it pays off to complain).
I can do a fresh pull & make with only a couple of minor errors that are 
insignificant to Nitros9. All the "Error 216" and "Error 218" as well as the 
"Out of resources" errors are gone.
There's an error in the DAlpha build for "padrom"
PacOS9 errors and doesn't build (did it ever?)
and there's an error when it's making the nos9 disks in copying CCbKrn which (I 
think) was an attempt at a new kernel but abandoned as the old kernel is built 
but the CCbKrn copy cmd wasn't removed from the makefile in the dsk routines.
All minor and all else seems to be good.

Bill Pierce
My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2013 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] Really not understanding how to use DW


Yep, that page is a mess, i can see how you ended up using becker disks.
The disks that end in 'dw.dsk' are what you want, or you can use the disks
labeled 'for use with bitbanger' on the Drivewire 4 site.  They really dont
belong on the dw4 site but i keep them there because the nightly builds are
by nature prone to be broken or weird.
 On Sep 30, 2013 1:26 AM, "Chris Osborn" <fozztexx at fozztexx.com> wrote:

> On this page the column on the right said "DriveWire 3/4" so I went with
> becker.
>
> http://www.nitros9.org/latest/
>
> On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>
> > The becker disks are for devices or emulators using the becker interface.
> > You want to use 'dw3' disks.
> > On Sep 30, 2013 1:04 AM, "Chris Osborn" <fozztexx at fozztexx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, so everyone said go read the DW3 docs and do what they say but use
> DW4.
> >>
> >> Here's what I do:
> >>
> >> CLOADM:EXEC on CoCo which loads hdbcc2.wav
> >>
> >> I get a boot screen that tells me HDB-DOS is loaded. On the DW4 I have
> >> nos96809l1v030209coco2_becker.dsk loaded into Drive 0.
> >>
> >> I then type DOS. Then I get a screen that looks like this:
> >>
> >> http://i.imgur.com/Jj995yS.jpg
> >>
> >>
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