[Coco] orch-90 file format question

Wed May 8 17:54:44 EDT 2013

Todd,
Yes, I forgot those disks were made before I found that Drivewire doesn't handle DMK disk format well. I need to change them over to JVC format. If you create a disk in VCC in JVC format then dskini it, you should be able to copy them to the disk in VCC then use them in DW4.
I will be correcting this soon. There are quite a few disks on my site that were done in DMK format.

I will send you a copy of most of it off-list

Bill Pierce
My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Wallace <dragonbytes at cox.net>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 10:20 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] orch-90 file format question

Ok, so I tried loading the file with the J's and using "W TEST1" to write it 
back to disk and then "R TEST1" to get it back.  The J's were still there and 
the SCORE command failed as usual.  Bill, I checked your website and tried one 
of YOUR music .dsk images.  They seem to have .ASC files on them.  None of them 
are recognized by the orch90pak.  So I went to download your Orchestra Mstr 
disk, but it seems its a 1MB image that is incompatible with drivewire, and 
drivewire is the only method I have to get a .dsk image from PC to a real floppy 
disk for use with the orc90 pak.  Don't supose you have the Orchcnvt on a 
smaller disk image?  I tried googling Orchcnvt and came up with nothing.  I 
appreciate your help.

- Todd Wallace

On May 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:

> 
> Todd,
> Try saveing the file, thn loading it again.
> If that doesn't work, there's an "Orchcnvt" file floating around. It may even 
be on my site on the orchestra 90 page on the OrcMastr disk. If not, I know I 
have a copy. It will convert all those files to proper Orch90 files.
> 
> Bill Pierce
> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Wallace <dragonbytes at cox.net>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 10:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] orch-90 file format question
> 
> 
> Thanks Bill, that helped alot. I am able to successfully load the file now.  
> However when I try to score with S command, i get an ERR 3.  I noticed where 
the 
> error cursor is is after these J letters.  I have checked on the computer and 
> wherever a linefeed is in the text file, when i view it from the orch90 pak it 

> shows a J there instead of a linefeed.
> 
> - Todd Wallace
> 
> On May 7, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Todd
>> The orch90 file format is simple.
>> First the reason your files are not showing is real orch90 files have NO 
> extension. The files with the orc extension are most likely from a model 3 or 
4.
>> There is one difference, these are ascii files and Coco orch files are 
> (semi)binary. On the Coco, the first character of each line has 128 added to 
the 
> ascii value and has no carriage returns. The "orc" files are straight ascii.
>> To load these files, just change the name so they have no extension then load 

> them with R FILENAME A
>> The "A" tell the orch 90 that they are in ascii
>> You can the just W FILENAME to save it in Coco format
>> 
>> The Orch90 manual is in all the various archives on the net
>> 
>> Bill Pierce
>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Todd Wallace <dragonbytes at cox.net>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 7:09 pm
>> Subject: [Coco] orch-90 file format question
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> So I've been tinkering with my new Orch-90 cart and trying to get some .orc 
>> files downloaded from the net into it.  Once I finally figured a way to get 
> the 
>> .orc files onto a floppy, I set it up with my MPI.  The DIR command from 
> within 
>> the orch90 pak wouldnt even show the file I copied.  After some 
experimenting, 
> I 
>> discovered that the orch90 will ONLY accept files that are in "BASIC data 
> file" 
>> format and in ASCII.  So I got the correct flags set and it finally showed up 

> in 
>> the DIR.  However, when I tried to load the .orc file, I got a ERR 4.  I 
> noticed 
>> the .orc files I downloaded all seem to be ascii text when viewed in a text 
>> editor on a PC.  I can see the comments and orch90 text commands, etc.  So I 
>> wondered what a file saved WITH the pak to disk would look like.  I used the 
>> WRITE command to output the built in demo song to disk, copied to PC, and 
>> discovered it is NOT a text file.  The DECB file flags are still BASIC data 
> file 
>> and ASCII, but when opened with a text editor,
>> its some sort of binary or something. So if anyone might be able to give me 
>> some info on what format these things need, that would be great.  Does the 
>> orch90 pak accept text file music files?  
>> 
>> - Todd Wallace
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