[Coco] nitros9 level3

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 29 January 2013 05:06:33 Kip Koon did opine:
Message additions Copyright Tuesday 29 January 2013 by Gene Heskett

> Stephen,
> I would love to see a NitrOS-9 Level 3!  I don't have any new
> suggestions, yet.  Keep up the great work!
> Kip
> 
We do have a level 3 branch in the nitros9 repo, and I have spent many 
hours trying to make it work myself, but have not succeeded in doing 
anything but crashing.  Keep in mind too, that the components of what used 
to be os9p1 and os9p2 have been shuffled too.

I may be wrong, but since it assumes separate memory maps for the scf 
stuff, and separate maps for the rbf stuffs, it seems to me that we need to 
go back through recent changes, recent being the last 15 years or so, and 
slice the rbf stuff out of scf, and vice versa.  Making separate modules 
out of things that straddle the demarcation line IOW.  Drivewire is a well 
blended mixture being one of the for instances.  Unforch, the only way I 
can see to do that would need a common memory area, an 8k block for a comm 
buffer between them.  That might be made to work, but at what cost in 
actual speed?  I can't even make a SWAG on that.

I would suggest that all of the drivewire modules be first moved to the 
common os map, leaving only stuff that is known to be pure scf in that scf 
map, and only rbf stuff that deals directly with local hardware disks in 
the second, rbf map, and all the mixed stuff like drivewire, including all 
of its descriptors, in the last, common map.

I don't know if any of my bootlist files ever managed to achieve that 
theoretical ideal or not, its been about 18 months since I last took a 
whack at it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
> On Behalf Of Stephen H. Fischer
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:38 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] nitros9 level3
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Gene, could this mutate into a new release of NitrOS-9, one that would
> be as good as the OS-9 system I and others had at about the end of
> Delphi and CIS?
> 
> There is a lot of good work that did not make it into NitrOS-9.
> 
> Changes could be made and people would need to adapt just like if Tandy
> released a new OS-9 Level-II version.
> 
> The new Windows I am talking about, four (4) 80 Track 2 Sided disks,
> Shellplus restored back to it's glory (Parts just are not in NitrOS-9
> that are part of Shellplus) and so many other thing that I see are
> missing.
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> If anyone thinks that this is a good idea, or have items that you would
> like to see in a new release, please send an e-mail to:
> 
> 
> 
> mailto:SFischer666 at Mindspring.com
> 
> 
> Please bear with me, setting up a new mailbox is a Devil of a job.
> Please keep trying until I get it right.
> 
> 
> If you read this message very late, please respond anyway regardless of
> other discussions, I would like to know what others think may not have
> been included and should be.
> 
> They might be added to my disk of missing parts.
> 
> -----------------------
> 
> SHF
> 
> 
> "Gene Heskett" <gheskett-ouEgS7marmk at public.gmane.org> wrote in message
> news:201210131430.37039.gheskett at wdtv.com...
> 
> > Greetings all;
> > 
> > Sick of being always out of system ram, I just went into my local
> > 3.2.9b repo, and after setting all the path $ env vars in the
> > appropriate .bashrc's, made the coco3_6309 .dsk's for level 3.
> > 
> > Then in dw I mounted the single disk version .dsk, and made a new
> > /dd/nitros9/L3install directory, and dsaved the whole thing to
> > /dd/nitros9/l3install.
> > 
> > It has apparently been 16 years since Alan DeKok last worked on the
> > Level3.doc file, and I half expected that somewhere along the line, he
> > or someone might have committed some mb scripts in the SCRIPTS
> > directory, and some L3.bl's in the BOOTLISTS directory.  Sadly, both
> > directories of the install are empty.  So all I have to go by in
> > composing an L3.bl, is the ident -s of a bootfile Alan was using in
> > 1996!
> > 
> > Lots, I dare say at least 1/2 (not counting descriptors of course) of
> > nitros9 has now been renamed as its been broken up into smaller
> > modules with hopefully less duplication of efforts, so arriving at a
> > compatible L3.bl is going to be a confusing and frustrating under
> > taking.
> > 
> > So, the $64k question is, has anyone but Alan ever made this actually
> > work?
> > 
> > If so, or if Alan is copying the mail here, it would be appreciated if
> > they would speak up and offer some guidance as to how best to
> > translate what was, into the more modern dialect of a bootlist for
> > 3.2.9.
> > 
> > Secondary silly Q: A fav technique to keep from having to rewrite the
> > wheels that make all this work, is to 'dot source' an included file.
> > I have in mind if this is possible using shell+, to make a master bl
> > that looks like this:
> > 
> > nitro
> > . scf.bl (read in the list of scf related modules here) end . rbf.bl
> > (read in the rbf related modules here) end . remaining.bl (etc,
> > starting with krnp3, init, yadda yadda)
> > 
> > sort of a list.  Is this possible with our shells?
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene
> 
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